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People have said we perhaps could have got a penalty before Ross scored a great winner. As can be seen here the tackle on Alex Dyer (poor tackle unpunished) was outside the box.

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Ref did well there then to play advantage. That wasn't the only poor Grimsby challenge that didn't get a card, but a far less bad challenge from Gallagher did get one.
Can't wait to see the video highlights. Hope that photographer is okay.

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Ref did well there then to play advantage. That wasn't the only poor Grimsby challenge that didn't get a card, but a far less bad challenge from Gallagher did get one.
Can't wait to see the video highlights. Hope that photographer is okay.

 I don't think he played advantage. I think he missed it.



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He raised his arms as if to play advantage, but I suppose that doesn't necessarily mean he saw it!

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"but changes have to be made by those at the top if we're going to see off-field improvements to match our on-field performances."

What changes?

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Greendale wrote:

Great result today if not a great game.  The one disappointment for me was the attendance of 807.  Bearing in mind the terrific game we saw on Wednesday , the number of Grimsby fans present and the fact that Charlton were playing in Yorkshire, I would have expected a crowd of around 1200.  Must be a concern for the club, about 500 home fans is not enough at this level particularly for a Saturday game.

 The club haven't done a proper publicity campaign this season which is a shame as we're in a huge catchment area.

Dartford's ground is in the middle of nowhere yet they get 1,000-2,000 fans each week.

Hopefully today's attendance will give the club a kick up the backside to take advantage of today's result and the potential coverage from it.



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With regards to the above, we need more people to join WUSA, and actually attend WUSA meetings.

The more people that join WUSA and attend the WUSA meetings, the more of a sense of a backlash the owners will feel there is against them. Like you've said the most infuriating thing is not many people know what's going on behind the scenes.

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Think you might of missed lack of gratitude towards supporters in Eastliegh programme.




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With regards to the above, we need more people to join WUSA, and actually attend WUSA meetings.

The more people that join WUSA and attend the WUSA meetings, the more of a sense of a backlash the owners will feel there is against them. Like you've said the most infuriating thing is not many people know what's going on behind the scenes.

That's not why we need people to join WUSA - the last thing the club needs is a backlash and hostility while things are going well on the pitch. It would do more harm than good. But it's obvious to anyone with a brain cell that, long term, the way the club operates isn't viable. The budget should be perfectly sustainable, and the debts manageable, but only if the club makes significant strides in its off-field activities. The last couple of years should be evidence enough that this isn't going to happen under the current regime, no matter how hard the supporters work to make up for their incompetence.

Nor would increased WUSA membership change what we know of what goes on behind the scenes. We have a representative but if the owners choose not to disclose information to him, or decide to make sure he can't disclose it himself, then it doesn't make a blind bit of difference. 



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With regards to the above, we need more people to join WUSA, and actually attend WUSA meetings.

The more people that join WUSA and attend the WUSA meetings, the more of a sense of a backlash the owners will feel there is against them. Like you've said the most infuriating thing is not many people know what's going on behind the scenes.

 Whether there are 10 people or 1000 people in WUSA, I can't see any of the 'complaints' Ashford Wing has made above being rectified as a direct result of increased membership. Yes, more people in WUSA is not a bad thing, but it won't rectify all these problems sadly as the club seem to view WUSA with contempt.



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Personally I think the above matters are for the WUSA forum, not the public domain. We don't really want to entertain our rivals with revelations such as the above...

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We seem to have gone off the thread of Welling United v Grimsby Town here which should be a positive one. Thought we deserved the win for the way we finished the game. Blaine Hudson was superb and Alex Dyer also had great influence on the game. Harry looked very lively when he came on and when you consider we have Day, Hughes-Mason, Cumbers, McLaren and Mott all to come back there will be phenomenal competition for places as the season develops. Well done to the players and backroom team yesterday - we could only have dreamed of beating Grimsby 5 or 6 years ago and they have made it reality. Could those who have issues with the club start a separate thread as this one should be all positive!

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We seem to have gone off the thread of Welling United v Grimsby Town here which should be a positive one. Thought we deserved the win for the way we finished the game. Blaine Hudson was superb and Alex Dyer also had great influence on the game. Harry looked very lively when he came on and when you consider we have Day, Hughes-Mason, Cumbers, McLaren and Mott all to come back there will be phenomenal competition for places as the season develops. Well done to the players and backroom team yesterday - we could only have dreamed of beating Grimsby 5 or 6 years ago and they have made it reality. Could those who have issues with the club start a separate thread as this one should be all positive!

 It was the lucky onesie what done it.



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We should have got the NLP to print a picture of Gavin!!

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We seem to have gone off the thread of Welling United v Grimsby Town here which should be a positive one. Thought we deserved the win for the way we finished the game. Blaine Hudson was superb and Alex Dyer also had great influence on the game. Harry looked very lively when he came on and when you consider we have Day, Hughes-Mason, Cumbers, McLaren and Mott all to come back there will be phenomenal competition for places as the season develops. Well done to the players and backroom team yesterday - we could only have dreamed of beating Grimsby 5 or 6 years ago and they have made it reality. Could those who have issues with the club start a separate thread as this one should be all positive!

Spot on. The programme also looks very professional now, would be nice to see some match/matchball sponsors backing the team as well.



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 Link to a Grimsby forum. This must be an unregulated forum due to the excessive use of colourfull language. Not happy bunnies in Lincolnshire.

 http://s2.excoboard.com/GrimOutlook/45999/2413125



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Mate,your forum hasnt let any Welling fans register or post i know of 2 that tried. Sadly it seems GTFC forum is only for GTFC fans.

You sadly forget to mention your 4 throwing our 4 on the floor and your 14 with his hands round our 6s throat... nice.. Our 5s hands where never round your guys throat he two handedly shoved him in the chest after being hacked from behind and sent into the photographer and the hoardings. You are right the challenge "wasnt very clever"  neither was putting hands round someones throat. He was the one player lucky not to get a red without doubt.

Obviously each set of fans will be on their teams side, but lets stick to the facts if we are going to preach.



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Well done to the lads yesterday!

4 points from Wrexham, Cambridge and Grimsby i think is brilliant!



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Great fun reading twitter and their forum, we are a pub team etc and it was all our fault with the handbags etc.

PVR is becoming a fortress, i dont think Grimsby fancied it yesterday they were making excuses pre game and werent up for a hard game. Teams know when you come to Welling you have to work your nuts off and also outplay us to get anything. Something like 1 loss in 50 games at home doesnt happen by luck. Keep it up boys.



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Yep...Teams coming to PVR will not get the pampering they get at their home grounds so we get an advantage...likewise when we go to a 'big' ground then we will be raised by the situation...a win win

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Yep...Teams coming to PVR will not get the pampering they get at their home grounds so we get an advantage...likewise when we go to a 'big' ground then we will be raised by the situation...a win win

 That goes for fans as well. At Wrexham the bar staff smiled when serving. Soap, hot water and hand dryer in gents plus stewards shaking fans hands as we left. All very scareysmile



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Well I'd like to put a Grimsby perspective on yesterday's "events". I'd have come on here sooner but it seems that you have to go through what I can only imagine is a vetting process when you register. I'll start by stating that you deserved your win if only for producing the one piece of real quality from either side. A very good finish abetted by our absentee defence. To be honest the rest of the game was pretty non-descript. It's interesting to read the Welling version of the fracas early in the second half. It happened right in front of us and the referee clearly bottled it. Whilst the initial challenge wasn't clever the reaction of your number 5 merited a straight red card. At one point "fives" hands were round "The shops" throat. Had there been any police in the vicinity he may also have been called to account for some of the nonsense that came out of his mouth. He definitely owes the lad who took your booking one. Two of the three bookings were laughable. Your lad was actually trying to calm things down.
As you say you are a force to be reckoned with at home and on yesterday's performance you shouldn't have much trouble staying in the division.
I was also interested to read your views on the size of the crowd. It's a bit silly to blame the size of the crowd on the fact that "We" only brought 200-ish as opposed to the arbitrary figure some of you thought we should have brought. Not that I need to make excuses but we've been from one end of the country to the other this week and it costs money! (Whilst we are on that subject charging £15.00 to stand on a concrete step could in some quarters be deemed a trifle over the top).
I came by train yesterday and wasn't sure which way the ground was. I asked at least half a dozen people and none of them knew where the ground was. I suspect this may well be the real issue-trying to entice the locals into your ground so that you aren't reliant on "Biggish" (LMAO) teams like Grimsby to boost your gates.
I have enjoyed both my visits to Welling (even though I let my Mrs. loose on booking my train tickets and she was sending me to Welwyn!) Your stewards, bar staff and burger bar people are very friendly and we had some good banter with some Welling fans stood by us-as well as the photographer who got battered.
Hopefully we'll see some of you at "The Theatre of Fish". (Six fans is your target to beat as brought by Hayes and Yeading a couple of years ago) At least you'll be able to sample "pwopah" fish and chips....

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Not preaching-just having an opposite view to yours. I thought my post was a fairly balanced effort. Pity you can't say the same. Given that our biggest moan this season is that we have a midfield incapable of mixing it most Town fans would have difficulty recognising your description of what was clearly a war zone on Saturday. The fact remains that was purported to be professional football came down to one moment of quality in 90 minutes. Your minute by minute analysis will probably say different but your goal was the first shot of note on target from either team.  As I said you deserved the win but it isn't going to have locals flocking to your emporium and we're now in our fourth season of that sort of mediocrity.

-- Edited by Barrafella on Monday 19th of August 2013 06:15:07 AM



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Well I'd like to put a Grimsby perspective on yesterday's "events". I'd have come on here sooner but it seems that you have to go through what I can only imagine is a vetting process when you register. I'll start by stating that you deserved your win if only for producing the one piece of real quality from either side. A very good finish abetted by our absentee defence. To be honest the rest of the game was pretty non-descript. It's interesting to read the Welling version of the fracas early in the second half. It happened right in front of us and the referee clearly bottled it. Whilst the initial challenge wasn't clever the reaction of your number 5 merited a straight red card. At one point "fives" hands were round "The shops" throat. Had there been any police in the vicinity he may also have been called to account for some of the nonsense that came out of his mouth. He definitely owes the lad who took your booking one. Two of the three bookings were laughable. Your lad was actually trying to calm things down.
As you say you are a force to be reckoned with at home and on yesterday's performance you shouldn't have much trouble staying in the division.
I was also interested to read your views on the size of the crowd. It's a bit silly to blame the size of the crowd on the fact that "We" only brought 200-ish as opposed to the arbitrary figure some of you thought we should have brought. Not that I need to make excuses but we've been from one end of the country to the other this week and it costs money! (Whilst we are on that subject charging £15.00 to stand on a concrete step could in some quarters be deemed a trifle over the top).
I came by train yesterday and wasn't sure which way the ground was. I asked at least half a dozen people and none of them knew where the ground was. I suspect this may well be the real issue-trying to entice the locals into your ground so that you aren't reliant on "Biggish" (LMAO) teams like Grimsby to boost your gates.
I have enjoyed both my visits to Welling (even though I let my Mrs. loose on booking my train tickets and she was sending me to Welwyn!) Your stewards, bar staff and burger bar people are very friendly and we had some good banter with some Welling fans stood by us-as well as the photographer who got battered.
Hopefully we'll see some of you at "The Theatre of Fish". (Six fans is your target to beat as brought by Hayes and Yeading a couple of years ago) At least you'll be able to sample "pwopah" fish and chips....

 and this is our problem but we don't seem to be able to solve it



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I was out our end, and turned and said "fraser is getting sent off here" straight away. Myself and a few others were gobsmacked when doug got a yellow and fraser got nothing..was a good game and enjoyed a really good beer with a couple of your lads who were staying over after the game.

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FAO Barrafella

For what its worth we were at the opposite end of the ground to the incident and we all were expecting a Red Card for our guy for raising his hands....The ref seemed to not have a clue and looked to decide with his assistants that they had 'better book a couple' so they did even though they were possibly wrong!!

Ref the cost to get in....Well I hope it doesnt happen to you but if you go to the Conf South (or of course North for you) you would find that it is abou £12 or £13 to get in) - Not saying its right but we have only raised it by a small amount in the Premier. The converse is also tru that I think that some of the ex league clubs in the Premier I think are charging far too much for Non League Football

Ref the crowds...We were very surprised that you had more for the Trophy game than the league game - thats all!!......we will certainly have more than 6 I assure you - I would guess around 100...I know it costs and I see your point - just that I cahteed to one of your supporters at the Trophy game and he said that you had quite a decent following in the London area so I was just putting 2 and 2 together and making 5 I guess

I also agree that our goal was about the only real chance - although you did hit the bar!!...Rosco took it well too

I think that we will surprise a few this year - we may not have your budget but we do have a team that play for each other

Look forward to youur ground of course...Just a pity that we will not be able to mingle and have a chat as was the case on Saturday

Good luck

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My immediate thought about the fracas was that Franks had shoved the department store in the chest. Then, cleverly, he walked well away from the handbags. I didn't think anyone from either side should have been sent off but I did wonder about how Jake Jalladher had ended on the ground.

In the first half, Blaine Hudson might have scored from a free header then McDonald clattered our bar on half time. The second period was a bit of a midfield battle, very different to the open, exciting, end to end encounter with Cambridge.

Ross Lafayette's goal was the class moment of the match and mention should go to Loick Pires and Alex Dyer for their part however the Grimsby sub could have done better in injury time but Lee Butcher stood up well and made himself big.

It was not a great game but important to get the first win under our belts.

I'm not really sure that we will take 200 there on a Tuesday night. The due date is a Trophy Saturday so there is a fair chance that one of us will still be in it.

Good luck Grimsby (apart from the idiot who smashed a window). 

 

 

 

                 Hopefully it won't be us....a contributing factor to us falling late on last season. Been there (nearly) done it. 

 



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My immediate thought about the fracas was that Franks had shoved the department store in the chest. Then, cleverly, he walked well away from the handbags. I didn't think anyone from either side should have been sent off but I did wonder about how Jake Jalladher had ended on the ground.

In the first half, Blaine Hudson might have scored from a free header then McDonald clattered our bar on half time. The second period was a bit of a midfield battle, very different to the open, exciting, end to end encounter with Cambridge.

Ross Lafayette's goal was the class moment of the match and mention should go to Loick Pires and Alex Dyer for their part however the Grimsby sub could have done better in injury time but Lee Butcher stood up well and made himself big.

It was not a great game but important to get the first win under our belts.

I'm not really sure that we will take 200 there on a Tuesday night. The due date is a Trophy Saturday so there is a fair chance that one of us will still be in it.

Good luck Grimsby (apart from the idiot who smashed a window). 

 



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Jake tried to pull their 14s hands from Doug's throat and their 4 grabbed Jake and swung him round onto the floor.

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Barrafella wrote:

Well I'd like to put a Grimsby perspective on yesterday's "events". I'd have come on here sooner but it seems that you have to go through what I can only imagine is a vetting process when you register. I'll start by stating that you deserved your win if only for producing the one piece of real quality from either side. A very good finish abetted by our absentee defence. To be honest the rest of the game was pretty non-descript. It's interesting to read the Welling version of the fracas early in the second half. It happened right in front of us and the referee clearly bottled it. Whilst the initial challenge wasn't clever the reaction of your number 5 merited a straight red card. At one point "fives" hands were round "The shops" throat. Had there been any police in the vicinity he may also have been called to account for some of the nonsense that came out of his mouth. He definitely owes the lad who took your booking one. Two of the three bookings were laughable. Your lad was actually trying to calm things down.
As you say you are a force to be reckoned with at home and on yesterday's performance you shouldn't have much trouble staying in the division.
I was also interested to read your views on the size of the crowd. It's a bit silly to blame the size of the crowd on the fact that "We" only brought 200-ish as opposed to the arbitrary figure some of you thought we should have brought. Not that I need to make excuses but we've been from one end of the country to the other this week and it costs money! (Whilst we are on that subject charging £15.00 to stand on a concrete step could in some quarters be deemed a trifle over the top).
I came by train yesterday and wasn't sure which way the ground was. I asked at least half a dozen people and none of them knew where the ground was. I suspect this may well be the real issue-trying to entice the locals into your ground so that you aren't reliant on "Biggish" (LMAO) teams like Grimsby to boost your gates.
I have enjoyed both my visits to Welling (even though I let my Mrs. loose on booking my train tickets and she was sending me to Welwyn!) Your stewards, bar staff and burger bar people are very friendly and we had some good banter with some Welling fans stood by us-as well as the photographer who got battered.
Hopefully we'll see some of you at "The Theatre of Fish". (Six fans is your target to beat as brought by Hayes and Yeading a couple of years ago) At least you'll be able to sample "pwopah" fish and chips....

 and this is our problem but we don't seem to be able to solve it



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 Amen to that.



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FAO Barrafella

For what its worth we were at the opposite end of the ground to the incident and we all were expecting a Red Card for our guy for raising his hands....The ref seemed to not have a clue and looked to decide with his assistants that they had 'better book a couple' so they did even though they were possibly wrong!!

Ref the cost to get in....Well I hope it doesnt happen to you but if you go to the Conf South (or of course North for you) you would find that it is abou £12 or £13 to get in) - Not saying its right but we have only raised it by a small amount in the Premier. The converse is also tru that I think that some of the ex league clubs in the Premier I think are charging far too much for Non League Football

Ref the crowds...We were very surprised that you had more for the Trophy game than the league game - thats all!!......we will certainly have more than 6 I assure you - I would guess around 100...I know it costs and I see your point - just that I cahteed to one of your supporters at the Trophy game and he said that you had quite a decent following in the London area so I was just putting 2 and 2 together and making 5 I guess

I also agree that our goal was about the only real chance - although you did hit the bar!!...Rosco took it well too

I think that we will surprise a few this year - we may not have your budget but we do have a team that play for each other

Look forward to youur ground of course...Just a pity that we will not be able to mingle and have a chat as was the case on Saturday

Good luck

 Now that's more like it a much more reasoned balanced post. A couple of points:-

 Our numbers for the Trophy game were increased by the anoraks who saw it as a new ground. For the record I think a lot who did go were surprised at the non-appearance of more of the Town fans who live in and around London.

The very best thing about our visit for me was the chance to change ends! Believe me that is a luxury that league football never allows (certainly where Grimsby are concerned-I see you had a visitation from one of our knuckle-draggers on Saturday-more's the pity.)

I looked for your results after the Trophy game and thought then that you could hold your own. Finance is a massive issue for teams in this league and you have every right to maximise your income. 

I wish you well and hope you do make the trip up to Grimsby for the return. 

Ta Ta for now!



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FAO Barrafella

For what its worth we were at the opposite end of the ground to the incident and we all were expecting a Red Card for our guy for raising his hands....The ref seemed to not have a clue and looked to decide with his assistants that they had 'better book a couple' so they did even though they were possibly wrong!!

Ref the cost to get in....Well I hope it doesnt happen to you but if you go to the Conf South (or of course North for you) you would find that it is abou £12 or £13 to get in) - Not saying its right but we have only raised it by a small amount in the Premier. The converse is also tru that I think that some of the ex league clubs in the Premier I think are charging far too much for Non League Football

Ref the crowds...We were very surprised that you had more for the Trophy game than the league game - thats all!!......we will certainly have more than 6 I assure you - I would guess around 100...I know it costs and I see your point - just that I cahteed to one of your supporters at the Trophy game and he said that you had quite a decent following in the London area so I was just putting 2 and 2 together and making 5 I guess

I also agree that our goal was about the only real chance - although you did hit the bar!!...Rosco took it well too

I think that we will surprise a few this year - we may not have your budget but we do have a team that play for each other

Look forward to youur ground of course...Just a pity that we will not be able to mingle and have a chat as was the case on Saturday

Good luck

 Now that's more like it a much more reasoned balanced post. A couple of points:-

 Our numbers for the Trophy game were increased by the anoraks who saw it as a new ground. For the record I think a lot who did go were surprised at the non-appearance of more of the Town fans who live in and around London.

The very best thing about our visit for me was the chance to change ends! Believe me that is a luxury that league football never allows (certainly where Grimsby are concerned-I see you had a visitation from one of our knuckle-draggers on Saturday-more's the pity.)

I looked for your results after the Trophy game and thought then that you could hold your own. Finance is a massive issue for teams in this league and you have every right to maximise your income. 

I wish you well and hope you do make the trip up to Grimsby for the return. 

Ta Ta for now!

 Could you ring the club for us please, thanks.



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