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Should Fazakerley be sole manager [40 vote(s)]

Yes, Fazza should be sole Manager
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No, let all 3 continue
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Get rid of the three of them
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Does 3 managers work or even help? Do you want 1 manager, 3 managers or a new manager.



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I guess the concept of a 3 man management team was based upon Faz spending a lot of time ON the field of play rather than OFF it, sadly and as we know, this has not been the case. Hopefully we may see him return before the season is over. I also guess that Faz has the casting vote? So based upon his hope of return, we surely must let things continue as are for the foreseeable future. In Faz we trust! PS not telling you how I voted!!

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Ryman will go mad if we sack them - the amount of paper and pens they must buy each week....



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I like them as people but thats not enough if they are not performing. Lets face it Brown was a disaster, but he was given money to get us out of the problems we had. The main issue with the 3 is that they seem to be stubbornly playing a negative brand of football that is not getting results or drawing many fans in to watch either. what that squad needs is a Sgt-Major figure either off field or on it in the form of a tough mid-fielder who will grab them by the scruff of the neck if they arent performing. There is no one on the pitch to do it when things are going bad. Surely players like that are out there even if they are in the twilight of their career-its good to have players on contract but only if they are worth the money. I like Chambers, Lokko, Porter, Corne, Bakare,Jefford,Williams but that doesnt make 11. Wellard sometimes shows promise but without leadership on the pitch and others being incorrectly used like Vidal it does make you question the wisdom of having too many cooks spoiling the broth. Cant believe Nortey has disappeared-what's the reason for that?
Sorry Loui but I voted for a new manager, after all you are in charge and the buck stops with you.

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Whatever the organisation you have to have a leader, be it the PM in Downing street or the guys collecting the recycling rubbish each week. Faz is supposed to be the leader of the management team and needs to demonstrate that to the players / fans and media. But credit where it's due they did well at the end of last season, as we all know, and have currently produced a very fit and young group of players, many of whom can expect to move onwards and upwards in their careers. What perhaps is now becoming a problem is the lack of both football management experience and, more importantly, man management / motivational skills. You cannot get experience from books or attending seminars, but by putting in the time. Welling are giving the management team the opportunity to gain the experience they need, I just hope that it doesn't cost us our hard won place in the National League.



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I still think we need a really experienced player in midfield....not the Jody Brown type but an old head all the same

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As wingnut pointed out in the welling southport thread, there is plenty of talent in the lower leagues and even in grassroots football, but we would not capture them as we do not have a scouting network of note. The Borough of Bexley has a lot of football club at varying levels, there must be one or two players that could potentially offer something.

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Whatever the organisation you have to have a leader, be it the PM in Downing street or the guys collecting the recycling rubbish each week. Faz is supposed to be the leader of the management team and needs to demonstrate that to the players / fans and media. But credit where it's due they did well at the end of last season, as we all know, and have currently produced a very fit and young group of players, many of whom can expect to move onwards and upwards in their careers. What perhaps is now becoming a problem is the lack of both football management experience and, more importantly, man management / motivational skills. You cannot get experience from books or attending seminars, but by putting in the time. Welling are giving the management team the opportunity to gain the experience they need, I just hope that it doesn't cost us our hard won place in the National League.


 But that's the whole point. Nearly all post match interviews are conducted as a trio.

When Faz was announced as manager at the meet the manager evening he pointedly corrected the announcement and said it is a management team. There are two camps...

Camp 1 -  "Three heads are better than one" - not sure that is the case if the three heads offer conflicting opinions. Or

Camp 2 - "Too many cooks spoil the broth" or "too many chiefs and not enough Indians"

I love Faz and what he has done at WUFC but I want A manager and some coaches so it is Camp 2 for me.



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 If Faz was made the sole manager I presume Matt will be his assistant and Paul would become 1st team coach. So what difference would it make?



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I think the difference is both psychological in identifying one person in overall charge for both the players and supporters, and practical as the Manager must take responsibility  for decision making.

I'm with Wingnut on this one.



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Yep agreed too!

Finding myself agreeing a lot with Mr Nut which is never good!

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You can only have one person in charge at the top, the two others are assistants or should be. But it doesn't matter what the management structure is, I was there on Saturday freezing cold and downright miserable at such an abject performance when the opponents were the worst team I have seen all season. 
Am not trying to be too critical but was really down after the result and performance on Saturday and have questioned if I can be bothered to watch another game like that if it is cold. I think some great signings have been made Chambers, Lokko, Vidal, Porter, Harry Lee, Tom King, Kabba if he is used the right way would be okay, Bakare will be okay, just very frustrated at the lack of goals and negative formation.

Anyway, hope the Management Team figure out where they are going wrong and think we need to play a 5-2-3 against Carlisle with 3 centre backs as looking on their player profiles they look like a big physical strong team with plenty of goals in them. COYW.



-- Edited by moses mcneil on Thursday 26th of November 2015 12:04:41 AM

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Agree with all 10 of those points.

I think we're all in agreement Vidal should be playing no. 10. But it's no good playing him behind a midget.

I'd like to see the 3-5-2 wingback formation return. Corne and Lee holding, Vidal ahead of them behind Bakare and Porter. Barney/Nortei and Harris/Jefford providing the width. Bakare isn't a giant like Tashan but is 10x the footballer and has enough of a physical presence about him, whilst Porter would actually have someone alongside him to play the ball to once he's worked his nuts off to chase after it in the channel or out wide.

Mr Wellard on the bench. I said a couple of months ago he's a poor man's Joe Healy. He got dropped and then returned to have a couple of decent games. Maybe he needs another reminder.

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I'd agree with a lot of the suggestions made above, the key, to me, must be for THE manager to make the best use of the resources at his disposal. HE may have to try and fit a few square pegs in round holes, but at least get 9 players in their best positions, playing a formation they understand, and to a strategy to beat the opposition.



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Ashford Wing wrote:

Agree with all 10 of those points.

I think we're all in agreement Vidal should be playing no. 10. But it's no good playing him behind a midget.

I'd like to see the 3-5-2 wingback formation return.


 Every time we have played 3 at the back its an absolute shambles, loui basicaly admitted that at meet the manager meeting... 



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Ashford Wing wrote:

Agree with all 10 of those points.

I think we're all in agreement Vidal should be playing no. 10. But it's no good playing him behind a midget.

I'd like to see the 3-5-2 wingback formation return. Corne and Lee holding, Vidal ahead of them behind Bakare and Porter. Barney/Nortei and Harris/Jefford providing the width. Bakare isn't a giant like Tashan but is 10x the footballer and has enough of a physical presence about him, whilst Porter would actually have someone alongside him to play the ball to once he's worked his nuts off to chase after it in the channel or out wide.

Mr Wellard on the bench. I said a couple of months ago he's a poor man's Joe Healy. He got dropped and then returned to have a couple of decent games. Maybe he needs another reminder.


 Be careful you don't get a call from Mr Healy's lawyer...?!



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Jamison wrote:
Ashford Wing wrote:

Agree with all 10 of those points.

I think we're all in agreement Vidal should be playing no. 10. But it's no good playing him behind a midget.

I'd like to see the 3-5-2 wingback formation return.


 Every time we have played 3 at the back its an absolute shambles, loui basicaly admitted that at meet the manager meeting... 


 Is this the same bloke that said we would play 3-4-1-2 before this season started?!



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Wingnut wrote:
Jamison wrote:
Ashford Wing wrote:

Agree with all 10 of those points.

I think we're all in agreement Vidal should be playing no. 10. But it's no good playing him behind a midget.

I'd like to see the 3-5-2 wingback formation return.


 Every time we have played 3 at the back its an absolute shambles, loui basicaly admitted that at meet the manager meeting... 


 Is this the same bloke that said we would play 3-4-1-2 before this season started?!


 We played it for two or three games at start and then went back to four at the back, I recall loui or matt saying the players were not comfortable with it and it showed when we played it.



-- Edited by Jamison on Thursday 26th of November 2015 12:57:23 PM

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The defence is one of the best in the league, why change it? The problems lie further up the field, Corne is the lynch pin but who plays with him in the middle? Harris is doing ok on the left and often links up well with Jeffo. That leaves Harry Lee, Ricky Wellard, Xav Vidal, which two would you pick? For me Harry Lee should be in the middle but that leaves Wellard or Vidal out on the right and we have seen they are not at their best out there. Joey Taylor is also pushing for a midfield slot. Which 2 play up front because it is blatantly obvious that we need 2 up, for me Porter is a must as his pace will leave most defenders for dead although he needs to stay onside and at corners be just inside his own half or on the toes of the CH not 15 yards into his own half, a quick ball over the top and he'll kill them with his pace. So who else starts? At the moment Bakare seems to be the best option but once fit I reckon KSA will be the best in the 10 position. With Kabba on the bench to replace either Porter or Bakare after they have run their blood to water. So who's left to fill the bench that could come on and be a game changer? Tash? Obafemi? where is Nortei Nortey? Zach Fagan can fill a few places in defence or midfield the rest are untried at this level. Am I confident we can beat Lincoln? No I'm not. Can we beat Carlisle? Yes we can, if the players can't lift their game for this one what chance for the rest of the season. I don't mind losing to Lincoln as long as we put a shift in but I fear too many will be looking ahead to the FA Cup. What I can't stand is players who look like they don't care. I won't name names as I'd never openly criticise any player on the forum. The performance at Guiseley, and at home to a poor Southport side was unacceptable.

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