I agree with most of what you say, Mark.  But I disagree with your argument about sponsorship. I think it is extremely important to have a shirt either without a non-sponsor's name on it or with a sponsor's name on it. I don't think our players should wear shirts bearing the name of a company which does not sponsor the club.

If it is a question of economy, then perhaps WSU should help fund new shirts - perhaps they should bear the letters WSU?  In the meantime, is there any mileage in running a sponsorship raffle say £50 to £100 a go with the winner getting the shirt sponsorships and the rest getting some form of advertising?  Probably too late to do this and get the required response.

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We also HAVE to get behind the players - personally I was VERY disappointed to hear some of the comments shouted Saturday at some of our players....we have always lived by the rules we support whoever pulls on the Red Shirt DURING the game

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I have to say that some people need to take a look at themselves over their whole verbal conduct. There is some sh*t being shouted which goes beyond what is acceptable even by the somewhat aggressive standards that have been set over the years. I get the feeling we are probably in the top 5 of the foulest mouthed supporters (certainly away from home) in this league.

If you were the person deciding to shout from behind me in the second half on Saturday 'Ref, you're a paedo' have a think about whether you find that acceptable now or whether it helped us at the time. And if you still have any doubts, try discussing the subject with Dave Jones of Cardiff City and see if you can still excuse it as 'heat of the moment'.
  

I'm not sure how the club is trying to atract a shirt sponsor at the moment?

If i were them i would send out 100 decent looking A4 printed leaflets to businesses in the area and also headquarters of some larger companies.

It only takes someone to design something (there's probably a few fans who could do this), some printer ink, stamps, glossy paper and away you go - less than £100.

It could outline the sponsorship package, brief history of the club, include a couple of free tickets and a couple of facts, i.e. did you know Welling played in front of over 3,000 fans at AFC Wimbledon last year, Welling enter a competition soon with the final played at Wembley and live on Sky Sports, thousands of people will see your company name across Southern England from Dorset to  Worcestershire - most companies would not know this?

The club needs to think about local companies first - how about Aye Gees Motorcycles (think it's spelt like that?) - specialist local company with a long history?

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I must agree with Stafford on this.  I heard things shouted at the referee and players both on Saturday and earlier in the season at Staines that brought no credit to the club at all and I was some distance away in the seats.  No one expects the fans to behave like choir boys but there are a few individuals who need to tone it down a bit.

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J wrote:

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chanting and shouting is a part of football - i know in the modern game the authorities are trying to neuter it and make it like going to the theatre but i will continue shouting if i feel it is neccessary

now fck off

(joke btw incase sense of humour lapse happens)

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Ahh, the old 'I pay £10 at the gate therefore I can say anything' argument.

In the end, does it help get the result you want?

Would you say the same to player
eferee face to face without the anonymity of the crowd?

If you were sat/stood 5 feet away doing your paid job, would it help you do it or make you any better disposed towards me if I subjected you 90 minutes of non-stop abuse?

Go forth and divide (also a joke)

 

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chelwing wrote:

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I agree with above posting - get rid of the Coomes shirts and get some replica shirts in the shop. Christmas is approaching and we need to have some gear in the shop or we are losing another revenue stream

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I've been wanting to buy a Welling shirt for a long time now, but no one sells them, not even in the club shop. If they started selling them at the ground, I'd buy one straight away for £40-£50. Times that by several hundred, as I'm sure lots of people would want to buy them to, then it'll be a nice little earner for the club. In the club shop they need to put the Welling badge on EVERYTHING they can think of.

I know, how about approaching PCUK in the highstreet to sponsor the club? They're doing well business wise despite the recession, and it's also a family run shop/business. Maybe, you could have a deal where, if you're a season ticket holder, you can have a discount on some computer equipment.

 

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stafford wrote:

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J wrote:

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yes i would and have done to players across the barrier at pvr

and if i annoyed at a bad decision and the game isnt going well for us im usually not best pleased so therefore shout at the ref - i make no apologies for it

and anyone who says they dont abuse the ref/oppositon players at any time are either lying or just a zombie who sits/stands staring at the game

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Yes, across the barrier, knowing full well that you are not at liberty to cross on their side or they onto yours, although a dangerous assumption to make if the player concerned was Roy McDonagh.

And any content of that shouting will do?

And at what point has anyone made the assertion that they never abuse anyone. I have certainly abused several, but with justifiable content.

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and what exactly is "justifiable" content? ive heard far worse shouted at England games for example than what ive heard at any Welling game and no offence but you sound like a typical Charlton or Wembley fan who complains about anyone making noise or standing up for more than 2 seconds

stafford wrote:

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J wrote:

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and what exactly is "justifiable" content? ive heard far worse shouted at England games for example than what ive heard at any Welling game and no offence but you sound like a typical Charlton or Wembley fan who complains about anyone making noise or standing up for more than 2 seconds

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Always handy to excuse our excesses by claiming someone else is worse.

If you don't want to look at yourself, that's fine. Anyone who has been going for the last 20 years knows what I will or won't tolerate and that particular comment on Saturday was one of them.

 

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Dizzie wrote:

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Must have my say on the last few posts - Kids for free you lot are joking i have been coaching for seven years and kids are becoming very aware at a young age RE - league position etc if we gave out 100 tickets the best you would get down is 10 kids are not stupid we should be targeting the students 16+ maket people looking for a cheap game of footy and a day out, and what with Dartford and Charlton doing so well we are not going to get any new fans now are we?

And regarding shouting abuse calling the ref a perv didnt hear that i must say and there is a fine line - but i have a passion for the game and a passion for Welling and sometimes i do go over the top but if you are having a Tony Blair and continue to do so i will encourage but after the tenth mistake i get a little bit annoyed and vent my anger - some of the effort at times is disgusting - and for those who didnt see i shouted out to Stefan very nicely on Sat your fu**** tell Fordy you wana come off, to which he gave me the thumbs up and five minutes later he was walking off not clapping at the bunch of tunas behind the goal of course that dont happen at Welling and then re hydrated.

See 27 of you on Sat!

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Dizzie wrote:

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Trigger i sense a bit of sarcasim in the brillant lol, as i said the 16 + uni students and sixth formers.

I know and this is just the way kids are when i started following wings in 98/99 i got ripped for it because the league we were in etc its just like what kids are like, i go and coach in Eltham and Kidbrooke and some kids didnt even know Welling have a team and they rip me for it and then i go and cry when they arenot looking because since i have been there we have really gone nowhere and chance we can change are name to Welling ' same as fulham' United?

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