Well, thia a bolt from the blue!

New owners (or not).

Club with financial problems.

re the winding up order - maybe we can try for Portsmouths lawyers.  They seem to know their way around this subject.


What the hell is going on?

Charlie 22 wrote:

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re the winding up order - maybe we can try for Portsmouths lawyers. 

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It's a winding up PETITION that has been served. It's an important difference. This matter can be easily sorted out by the club.

 

I didn't see that one coming. I have no idea who this potential new owner was. My worry is that if the club were using a new owner to sort out financial problems - and now we don't have one - where does that leave us?

Do we know how much we owe? Problem is that now money will be diverted from the team to pay for lawyers.

MarkX wrote:

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Well as I am dim on such matters...what is the difference between a petition and an order AND how much space is there between a petition and an order

Do you seamlessly move from one to the other??

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Try

http://www.detini.gov.uk/wind_up_company.pdf


I conclude we must owe more than the couple of grand it takes to start the process!

As seamlessly as your ability to pay or argue the toss with the judge.

I am presuming HMRC are going after any and every football club that owes them percentage wise decent money. This could actually be a good thing if everyone is nailed by this and there are not regional variations.

As I said, no expectation on this season. It does make you wonder why we haven't tried something like a draw for the shirt sponsor.

However, if we have been paying what we cannot afford I do not expect us to be touting ourselves round other clubs\forums for sympathy. And if that meant asking the supporters club team to represent us for expenses and beer money to survive, don't be too proud!

 

However, if we have been paying what we cannot afford I do not expect us to be touting ourselves round other clubs\forums for sympathy. And if that meant asking the supporters club team to represent us for expenses and beer money to survive, don't be too proud!

 

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Too right. We have criticised other clubs for living beyond their means and now it looks like we may have been doing the same. I hope that there is some other explanation.

 

All will be clearer from the letter that the club have put out to season ticket holders and the rest of us will get it Saturday

I do know whats in it .....but dont want to write it badly here

well Kentonline is reporting

The Wings are believed to owe a substantial five-figure sum ...

http://www.kentonline.co.uk/kentonline/sport/2010/august/12/welling_future.aspx

im assuming a floodlight style appeal wont be enough for this?

J wrote:

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the hmrc are really going all guns blazing for football clubs at the moment - w@nkers

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 For every pound, Welling, Portsmouth, Dover in the past do not pay in tax, someone else has to make up the shortfall.... and that means you and me the private citizen normally. Scuse me if I like that idea less.... 

This level of football is supposed to be about being real. I am glad I know where we are now, I don't wish to support a falsehood

i totally understand where you are coming from but it's easier to take that point of view when it's someone else!

and id rather they put this much energy into mrs 5 kids in big council house on benefits or the illegals that get massive handouts than football clubs who are good ways of bringing a local community together

chelwing wrote:

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Reading the Sun and Daily Mail too much J!!

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fact is football clubs for me shouldnt be top of the hitlist as i could name loads of other stuff that should be targetted before the likes of a small football team (who lets be fair are easy targets where the might of the bbc wont be unleased on the hmrc like it will if they crack down on more pc targets) 

I do not believe HMRC will be the only creditors.

And I certainly do not believe someone's livelihood should be screwed over a game of football, as could quite easily be the case.

I would also point out that the first we know about it is when it has gone nuclear which as a punter of 25 years plus is entirely in keeping with what I would expect in one regard, if surprising in another.

Now imagine if we had have got promoted...

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Stafford's right, the HMRC seem to be after every club in the land. Which, ultimately, could be a good thing. I keep hearing rumours that the Spanish game is deep in fiancial mire, so if they are doing it to keep the game in check (and not their own gains...), maybe it's not a bad thing.

I do hope this can be sorted. And this new owner who seems to have disappeared...That all sounds a bit dodgy. Surely, if you're serious, you'd tell people before going away.

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apparantly barca are £100m + in debt so it is a football wide thing but just come as such a shock

 

And how worried would you be if you were E B & Q at the moment? Is their ground arrangement sustainable if we're not about? Suppose at least VCD could then find a ground of the required standard!

-- Edited by stafford on Thursday 12th of August 2010 11:46:27 AM

E&B aren't my concern. I'd rather our reserves played at PVR.

Still trying to take it all in.

stafford wrote:

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Dogme wrote:

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E&B aren't my concern. I'd rather our reserves played at PVR.

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I'd be happy at this point if we can afford reserves! (and that includes if they are free)

Did I say I was concerned

 

 

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Maybe one way of helping to sort our problems out would be to get rid of the reserves. You can bet they've thought about it. The reserves are a bit of a luxury.

 

-- Edited by Dogme on Thursday 12th of August 2010 12:17:29 PM

bruno wrote:

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Still trying to take it all in.

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same - dont feel it's sunk in yet tbh

 

Kevin wrote:

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On a slightly positive note, JGFC is getting destroyed on the ConfSouth forum haha. Come on Tom, get them back ...

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As a Dover fan it's good to see JGFC getting what he deserves, how many times has he trotted out the 'begging bowl' taunts at us over the years.
This will have shown him these things can and do happen to any club, none of us the supporters, know whats round the corner.

Just have some excitement along the way is what I say, I genuinely hope for the sake of the 99.9% of decent Wings fans that things pan out for the better.