Has it been lifted? I really do not understand why it was applied in the first place because the club was the subject of a petition not an order. Perhaps somebody could enlighten me as to what Conference rule covers that circumstance?
Surely the Conference must remove the embargo now that we have been granted a 14-weeks adjournment? Otherwise, could the continuation of the embargo be construed as restriction of trade under UK and European law?
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I agree Bertie, but consider this ... we are playing so well we dont need any players, what a blessing.
Kevin It looked as if there was at least 1 player on Monday playing with a knock. Whilst it may have been possible for him to play he will have been aggravating the injury and ideally should be rested to minimise the risk of long term injury. The longer we are limited to 16 registered players the higher the risk that the injuries will become the other sides 12th or 13th man.
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That would open up a box of worms if the players thought that the league were responsible for their injuries. Were Lewes under an embargo and at what stage was it lifted?
If they lift it late this week we should be fine to register and sign players, they let Dartford sign John Whitehouse hours before the game despite them having goalkeepers registered!
-- Edited by JgFc on Wednesday 1st of September 2010 12:08:39 PM
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Hopefully the club will make a statement soon on the Embargo and whos registered or signed, it would be an absolutely stupid decision by the League if we can only register 16 players and not the clubs fault and in my opinion its restriction of trade and also could be negligent to the players health if they are forced to play with injuries by the league when we have 3 or 4 others who could play plus the Academy squad.
-- Edited by JgFc on Wednesday 1st of September 2010 07:29:30 PM
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I suspect the transfer embargo will stay until either the tax bill is paid in full or there exists a written agreement scheduling the payments between the club and HMRC.
I suspect the latter already exists for the case to be adjourned for 14 weeks and a time extension is given to pay.
I also suspect we should stop suspecting and need to see what the situation is in black and white and try and find out what happened with other clubs who have experienced the same thing.
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Given that Lewes owed 115k and paid some and arranged staged payments for the balance to HMRC, i am astounded that i cannot find any embargo details on google levied at lewes FC of the same league.
Welling have had a winding up petition NOT an order and have also agreed terms with HMRC if what we have heard in the press releases are correct.
I would love to see a copy of the leagues rules to see if anything is in there to show why they treat us like this and differently to Lewes. Does anyone know if the embargo is still in place as we have had no word from the club.
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I also see that this year, Salisbury had their embargo LIFTED after agreeing a 3 year payment plan with HMRC... ours is 14 weeks!!
From the BBC...
Salisbury City's transfer embargo lifted
Chris Todd is a target for Salisbury City after two successful loan spells Salisbury City are free to sign new players after their transfer embargo was lifted.
The Blue Square Premier club were told they could not make any new signings in December after failing to pay debts owed to HM Revenue and Customs.
But a takeover from a consortium means the Whites can hold talks with players.
"I am pleased to say that we have come to an agreement. We are 100% committed," new chairman William Harrison-Allan said.
"We've been working on this since July, bankrolling the club since then.
He's very much wanted by the club as a whole and he helped the team get out of trouble last year
Chairman William Harrison-Allan on Chris Todd "We've got a few things to sort out with Blue Square, but they should let us replace players we lost because of the embargo."
Central defender Chris Todd is likely to be one of the first targets, after two successful loan spells at the Raymond McEnhill stadium.
"He's a great organiser of the team," said Harrison-Allan.
"He's very much wanted by the club as a whole and he helped the team get out of trouble last year."
Under the agreement signed with HMRC, Salisbury City's debts will be paid off over the next three years. The club will also have to give around 25% of any money earned from cup runs to HMRC.
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As far as I can tell, and I may be mistaken, there appears to be nothing in the Conference rules governing the continuation of an embargo which pertains to this particular situation regarding an HMRC petition and a repayment date agreed by all parties in the High Court. If this is the case, and, admittedly, I do not have all of the facts, I do not not understand how there can be rule-book justification for the continuation of an embargo - particularly in the case of re-registering existing, contracted, players.
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Adjornment of the hearing is probably interpreted as a time extension to allow the club either to pay up in full or to reach an agreement on a schedule of payments. I don't think it is itself considered to be signed agreement for repayment.
It is an adjournment for 14 weeks to allow time for payment. How can the Conference do as you say and, seemingly, second guess a High Court hearing? Furthermore, I do not understand how it can do, as you suggest, and rule on the intent of one of the parties to that High Court decision by continuing an embargo which could affect - to whatever degree - the ability of a member club, on and off the field, to resume its business and thereby try to meet the terms of that first High Court decision?
Fair enough if there are rules to that effect endorsed by every Conference club, but perhaps somebody could enlighten us and end this, for the most part, uninformed speculation?
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Who makes these embargo decisions? Is it an executive decision made by the Conference officers, or does it have to be ratified later by a committee of club delegates? Or, is the decision to impose or lift an embargo made by the delegated representatives of Conference clubs who serve on the relevant committee?
Pure speculation, but could it be that an embargoed club would have to wait for the relevant committee to meet before a decision can be made ?!
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We are guessing Bertie. Hopefully the club will make a statement soon one way or the other. I understand why they would rather sort it behind closed doors if they can first.
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