Members Login
Username 
 
Password 
    Remember Me  
Official Welling Site -> - Welling United Fans Forum -> Welling United Fans Forum -> investor latest
Post Info TOPIC: investor latest
JgFc


troll catcher

Status: Offline
Posts: 11491
Date:
investor latest
Permalink  
 

Negotions continue and the club hope to make a statement tues or weds regarding developments. This is from barry after the final whistle.

__________________

Alexander O'Neal 1987 "I'm fed up cos all you wanna do is criticize "

Trollspotting

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
Moo


Club Legend

Status: Offline
Posts: 2962
Date:
RE: investor latest
Permalink  
 

Hopefully making a statement suggests there is some good news on investment or sponsorship. Let's see what Tuesday or Wednesday bring.

__________________
JgFc


troll catcher

Status: Offline
Posts: 11491
Date:
RE: investor latest
Permalink  
 

The club did say there is a bit of chinese whispers going on and everyone is welcome to call them personally to find the latest if they have any questions.



__________________

Alexander O'Neal 1987 "I'm fed up cos all you wanna do is criticize "

Trollspotting

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
MarkX


Club Legend

Status: Offline
Posts: 5456
Date:
RE: investor latest
Permalink  
 

The words I heard were....'there should be some good news on Monday or Tuesday'

From young Barry and he looked pretty happy

__________________
DickieD


First X1 Player

Status: Offline
Posts: 113
Date:
RE: investor latest
Permalink  
 

Well, It's Tuesday - would love some good news for the wings today - PLEASE!

Are we awaiting the results of employing the services of Mr Loophole after relooking at Ben Greenhalgh's contract, finding that Sky TV and Rafa owes us £1m plus sign on fee?

To allow Ben to go off down this route was a very credible and outstanding thing to do, and I fully support it, but in hindsight we are a very nice and kind club sometimes.

Come on you wings (and investors)!

 

__________________

Bringing the spirit of Ransom to our play-off efforts!
Danson Mark


Club Legend

Status: Offline
Posts: 6789
Date:
RE: investor latest
Permalink  
 

DickieD wrote:

Well, It's Tuesday - would love some good news for the wings today - PLEASE!


Doesn't the first message in this thread say Tuesday or Wednesday? The worst thing the club could possibly do would be to make an announcement before whatever is happening is settled and jeopardise what may or may not be going on.

Unfortunately we have to be patient.


 



__________________

I know I'm biased. What's wrong with that?
bruno


Moderator

Status: Offline
Posts: 4158
Date:
RE: investor latest
Permalink  
 

DickieD wrote:

Are we awaiting the results of employing the services of Mr Loophole after relooking at Ben Greenhalgh's contract, finding that Sky TV and Rafa owes us £1m plus sign on fee?

To allow Ben to go off down this route was a very credible and outstanding thing to do, and I fully support it, but in hindsight we are a very nice and kind club sometimes.


It would indeed be a miracle if 'Mr Loophole' could find something in a document which could never have existed under the FA rules.

There being no contract what very creditable and outstanding thing did the Club do?

However, knowing that we are in dire straits at this point in time it would be nice if Sky TV  made a contribution to the appeal fund.  However we know Sky TV aren't really interested in football itself merely the revenue generated by their exclusive broadcasting rights of matches played by the 'elite' clubs so I think that is extremely unlikely.

__________________

YOUTH are the future

****

"The worst thing you can do is make a committment and not meet it and I understand that."  Barrie Hobbins 14 August 2010

 
Baz at the Bar


First X1 Player

Status: Offline
Posts: 147
Date:
RE: investor latest
Permalink  
 

bruno wrote:

DickieD wrote:

Are we awaiting the results of employing the services of Mr Loophole after relooking at Ben Greenhalgh's contract, finding that Sky TV and Rafa owes us £1m plus sign on fee?

To allow Ben to go off down this route was a very credible and outstanding thing to do, and I fully support it, but in hindsight we are a very nice and kind club sometimes.


It would indeed be a miracle if 'Mr Loophole' could find something in a document which could never have existed under the FA rules.

There being no contract what very creditable and outstanding thing did the Club do?

However, knowing that we are in dire straits at this point in time it would be nice if Sky TV  made a contribution to the appeal fund.  However we know Sky TV aren't really interested in football itself merely the revenue generated by their exclusive broadcasting rights of matches played by the 'elite' clubs so I think that is extremely unlikely.
Sky must be interested in football otherwise they wouldn't charge so much to watch it. It's more likely that, as we are not a prem club, they haven;t heard about our appeal. It's even more likely that they dont even know about non league football

 



__________________
JgFc


troll catcher

Status: Offline
Posts: 11491
Date:
investor latest
Permalink  
 

Dickie to be fair i dont think Fordy wanted to let Ben go at all but he couldnt force him to stay. Its very romantic to think Sky or Inter would stump up a chunk but its a million to one it happening as they dont care and probably have never heard of us or aware of our plight. Could we get a friendly of their reserves and developement squad? possibly if we tried. They go on tours etc.



-- Edited by JgFc on Tuesday 5th of October 2010 04:31:35 PM

__________________

Alexander O'Neal 1987 "I'm fed up cos all you wanna do is criticize "

Trollspotting

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
DickieD


First X1 Player

Status: Offline
Posts: 113
Date:
RE: investor latest
Permalink  
 

I was only really joking about most of my post but I am hoping for good news soon!  However, I always understood the situation to be with Ben was that he had signed a contract but the club was good about releasing it.

After a bit more research, I find this, which explains...so, there was a contract, but the FA rules came into play.

Ben said: "There were a lot of problems because I had just signed a contract with Welling before I took part in the competition, but because I was under 18 I was able to get out of it. In the end Welling were quite good about it, but it was quite stressful because it still hadn't been sorted out the night before the people on the show needed it to be. I joined Welling because the manager (Jamie Day) said that a professional club would see me and sign me up, but I felt it was a much better opportunity to take part in this competition."



__________________

Bringing the spirit of Ransom to our play-off efforts!
bruno


Moderator

Status: Offline
Posts: 4158
Date:
RE: investor latest
Permalink  
 

Not sure where the quote comes from but at the time that the competition started the Manager was Andy Ford, Jamie didn't arrive till November. I have no doubt that Ben may well have signed a piece of paper put in front of him by Andy Ford but very much doubt that he was registered as a contracted player with the FA.

__________________

YOUTH are the future

****

"The worst thing you can do is make a committment and not meet it and I understand that."  Barrie Hobbins 14 August 2010

 
Moo


Club Legend

Status: Offline
Posts: 2962
Date:
RE: investor latest
Permalink  
 

Any news from the club yet? I've got my fingers crossed for some positive news today.

__________________
JgFc


troll catcher

Status: Offline
Posts: 11491
Date:
RE: investor latest
Permalink  
 

Nothing yet, but note they HOPE to make a statement Tuesday or Wednesday. I am sure the Club will post an update soon. I take it no match or friendly this weekend?

__________________

Alexander O'Neal 1987 "I'm fed up cos all you wanna do is criticize "

Trollspotting

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
Kevin


Club Legend

Status: Offline
Posts: 3008
Date:
investor latest
Permalink  
 

If there is no match on that pitch on Saturday it is a massive own goal.

Efforts to get a big friendly are great, but realistically it doesnt look like its happening, and even if it were announced right now this very moment, then what crowd would it pull in at less than 72hours notice ??

Even if it meant the supporters playing on there this Saturday rather than in New Eltham it would surely bring in £750 across the two squads of players and the bar afterwards.

-- Edited by Kevin on Wednesday 6th of October 2010 05:31:16 PM

__________________

Thou shalt support Welling and Faz
JgFc


troll catcher

Status: Offline
Posts: 11491
Date:
RE: investor latest
Permalink  
 

I hope we continue looking for friendlies one or 2 games vs League XIs would bring in £10,000 or more combined as a minimum and more if we could market them. A substantial amount.

Can we get a friendly vs AFC Wimbledon? That would bring in a fair gate?

__________________

Alexander O'Neal 1987 "I'm fed up cos all you wanna do is criticize "

Trollspotting

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
Exec lounge Bertie


Playmaker

Status: Offline
Posts: 495
Date:
RE: investor latest
Permalink  
 

No news then.  And just for the record, today is Wednesday.  I guess "hope" is the operative word.

__________________

Oh, a mighty god is the god of gold,
His empire never decays;
In every age, in every clime,
The hearts of men he sways.
DickieD


First X1 Player

Status: Offline
Posts: 113
Date:
RE: investor latest
Permalink  
 

Tut, tut, keep patient, it says Wednesday and there is over 3 and a half hours to go don't you know! biggrin

__________________

Bringing the spirit of Ransom to our play-off efforts!
Russ


Club Captain

Status: Offline
Posts: 628
Date:
RE: investor latest
Permalink  
 

There's an update (of sorts) on the official site.

__________________
Danson Mark


Club Legend

Status: Offline
Posts: 6789
Date:
RE: investor latest
Permalink  
 

That's probably fair enough. If talks are ongoing there is little more than can be added.

__________________

I know I'm biased. What's wrong with that?
JgFc


troll catcher

Status: Offline
Posts: 11491
Date:
RE: investor latest
Permalink  
 

Decent communication and keeps everyone up to speed.

__________________

Alexander O'Neal 1987 "I'm fed up cos all you wanna do is criticize "

Trollspotting

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
MarkX


Club Legend

Status: Offline
Posts: 5456
Date:
RE: investor latest
Permalink  
 

Well that is ecouraging..........lets see what happens......the club wouldnt say that things are at an advanced stage if they were not so..........

However

Until it all happens I will still be a little jittery with time moving on

M

__________________
Exec lounge Bertie


Playmaker

Status: Offline
Posts: 495
Date:
RE: investor latest
Permalink  
 

I guess they will not say anything further until the ink is dry on an agreement.  Once bitten etc.

__________________

Oh, a mighty god is the god of gold,
His empire never decays;
In every age, in every clime,
The hearts of men he sways.
BOOM BOOM BALLY


Club Captain

Status: Offline
Posts: 785
Date:
RE: investor latest
Permalink  
 

bruno wrote:

Not sure where the quote comes from but at the time that the competition started the Manager was Andy Ford, Jamie didn't arrive till November. I have no doubt that Ben may well have signed a piece of paper put in front of him by Andy Ford but very much doubt that he was registered as a contracted player with the FA.


Ben was still at Darrick Wood school - so would not be binded if the contract had  been forwarded to the FA

More a Corinthians player

 



__________________
interestedone


Youth Team

Status: Offline
Posts: 65
Date:
RE: investor latest
Permalink  
 

From the Fa Rules:

C 1 A (i) A Player under 18 years of age and in receipt of full-time education may not enter
into a contract of employment with a Club in membership of The Association
and/or an Affiliated Association.

(...full-time education refers to a child who is of compulsory school age within the
meaning of the Education Acts applying in England or who is over the school leaving age but is for the time being
attending a school or in full-time education in an establishment of further education.)

__________________
sue


New Member

Status: Offline
Posts: 49
Date:
RE: investor latest
Permalink  
 

More Corinthian than Welling.
He was at their opening game of the season against Sporting Bengal.Said he was going on loan to Monza,although he seemed keen to come home.



__________________
JgFc


troll catcher

Status: Offline
Posts: 11491
Date:
RE: investor latest
Permalink  
 

not sue from Corinthian? Married to Mr Billings? Are you a corinthian fan sue?




__________________

Alexander O'Neal 1987 "I'm fed up cos all you wanna do is criticize "

Trollspotting

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
Kevin


Club Legend

Status: Offline
Posts: 3008
Date:
RE: investor latest
Permalink  
 

Arr yes, this is Sue who's all 9 posts of this forum have been negative.

__________________

Thou shalt support Welling and Faz
sue


New Member

Status: Offline
Posts: 49
Date:
RE: investor latest
Permalink  
 

Just  pointing out that he spent more time at Corinthian,than Welling.Sorry if it upset anyone but he did.
As for all posts being negative,well i think we are all allowed to have an opinion on Wellings current plight and some of those opinions might not go down well with others,just as Hengist posts have with you Tom and you to Kevin.
As for being a Corinthian fan,abit i suppose.
I stopped watching Welling about 18 months ago,after 28 years,for reasons id rather not go into on here and i probably wont return until things change.

__________________
Kevin


Club Legend

Status: Offline
Posts: 3008
Date:
RE: investor latest
Permalink  
 

You wont be missed then

__________________

Thou shalt support Welling and Faz
Exec lounge Bertie


Playmaker

Status: Offline
Posts: 495
Date:
RE: investor latest
Permalink  
 

Actually, Sue has a point.  Don't we want things to change at Welling - a secure financial future, more boardroom involvement for supporters' representatives ( ie reps drawn from a subscription-based supporters' association) better facilities (and bar) for supporters and the means to fund ( and continue to fund) a good team?

__________________

Oh, a mighty god is the god of gold,
His empire never decays;
In every age, in every clime,
The hearts of men he sways.
Kevin


Club Legend

Status: Offline
Posts: 3008
Date:
RE: investor latest
Permalink  
 

Yes Bertie we do ... but a true supporter of 28 years wouldn't stop watching the team, especially in their hour of need.

__________________

Thou shalt support Welling and Faz
Slim


First X1 Player

Status: Offline
Posts: 228
Date:
RE: investor latest
Permalink  
 

Everyone has their reasons Kevin...

__________________
Kevin


Club Legend

Status: Offline
Posts: 3008
Date:
RE: investor latest
Permalink  
 

Well perhaps so, but all the same I dont understand the negativity. If someone is that aggrevied about an incident that has ended 28 years of support then why not just walk away completely, why keep coming back to post "moans".

__________________

Thou shalt support Welling and Faz
Cynical


Club Legend

Status: Offline
Posts: 1536
Date:
RE: investor latest
Permalink  
 

JgFc wrote:

Negotions continue and the club hope to make a statement tues or weds regarding developments. This is from barry after the final whistle.


Any news yet?  As for the ' Commercial '  twosome, what has been done so far?
I know of two people that might be interested in taking on the challenge if they were invited to do so.  They have the time and inclination to get results and would, so I'm lead to believe, take on the work at the same rate as the ' others '
We need results and we need them now.

 



__________________
Lou Rob


Club Captain

Status: Offline
Posts: 515
Date:
RE: investor latest
Permalink  
 

I agree. What worries me is the longer these negotiations take the more concerned I am. We were unable to arrange a friendly against a big team on a Saturday when there were no Premiership, Championship or international games in the UK and therefore missed out on paying off a large chunk of the debt. It seems these negotiations really are our only hope.

Does anyone have any inside knowledge ?

Eric - I know you are a regular on this forum and although appreciate there are certain things you have to keep confidential is there anything you can tell us ?

I am sure this wait is killing us all !!

Lou


__________________
Kevin


Club Legend

Status: Offline
Posts: 3008
Date:
RE: investor latest
Permalink  
 

The longer it goes on the more the "investor" calls the shots as we will become increasingly desperate. Also, these commerical managers ... why do we not know who they are ... four weeks in and we dont even know their names.

__________________

Thou shalt support Welling and Faz
JgFc


troll catcher

Status: Offline
Posts: 11491
Date:
RE: investor latest
Permalink  
 

sibsey? and pleydryll from bexley borough fc they are Kev their proper names will be on bexley borough site. But i am not aware they have raised any money or even what their plans are., which is a bit crap seeing theyve been there 6 weeks or 2 months?

__________________

Alexander O'Neal 1987 "I'm fed up cos all you wanna do is criticize "

Trollspotting

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
Squarevanman


Club Legend

Status: Offline
Posts: 2395
Date:
RE: investor latest
Permalink  
 

The commercial manager is a Richard Playdell according to the club information on the main site. They came over as keen at the last WSU meeting but also would be interested to see what they have done.

__________________

David C in the WUSA shop
Cynical


Club Legend

Status: Offline
Posts: 1536
Date:
RE: investor latest
Permalink  
 

Squarevanman wrote:

The commercial manager is a Richard Playdell according to the club information on the main site. They came over as keen at the last WSU meeting but also would be interested to see what they have done.


They can be as keen as they like, but are they getting anywhere?
I know that in this downturn of our economy things are not so good, but feedback is essential, not only from them, but the club too.

 



__________________
Eric Brackstone


Playmaker

Status: Offline
Posts: 294
Date:
RE: investor latest
Permalink  
 

It is understandable that supporters are becoming anxious waiting for news updates and I fully appreciate the frustration that is building up daily.

Barrie has kept me updated throughout the negotiations with all the latest developments, but has also requested that he will make the announcements via the website when he feels it is the right time to do so. I must respect his wishes on this, as it is his prerogative to request this, being one of the owners of our club.

I can tell in the tone of his voice that it is his wish to announce the outcome ASAP, but equally, these kind of negotiations do take time to reach agreement.

Be patient, although it is getting us all down each day that passes by, but very soon our club could be in a much stronger position than it has been of late, if both sides do reach an agreement.

__________________
1 2 3  >  Last»  | Page of 3  sorted by
 
Quick Reply

Please log in to post quick replies.
Official Welling Site -> - Welling United Fans Forum -> Welling United Fans Forum -> investor latest
Tweet this page Post to Digg Post to Del.icio.us


Create your own FREE Forum
Report Abuse 		Powered by ActiveBoard