what a load of **** whats the point of being happy with being in relegation like its the best we can do when we rest players and cant even beat the ****of this division. At least others have done something about it-The owners are prooving they are more inept than the 3 amigos
I accept loui's point that if we win our two games in hand things could look better, but the sticking point with that is a) we have to win them in the first place and 2) hope Altringham do not win one or both of there two games in hand.
Just throwing out there for debate, If we are to accept the inevitable is it worth having another look at Charlie Penny now he is a couple years older?. Yes I accept that he is not the answer for this level to get us out of trouble, but as this is a young squad he would fit in and gain experience at this level before moving down to the conference south if results do not turn.
Having Charlie and George running at the opposition defenders in my view could/would cause problem's and may create more chances?
Also is there any players in the "reserves" that could come through to gain valuable experience at the latter end of our league campaign?
-- Edited by morph on Sunday 17th of January 2016 12:23:46 PM
I accept loui's point that if we win our two games in hand things could look better, but the sticking point with that is a) we have to win them in the first place and 2) hope Altringham do not win one or both of there two games in hand.
Just throwing out there for debate, If we are to accept the inevitable is it worth having another look at Charlie Penny now he is a couple years older?. Yes I accept that he is not the answer for this level to get us out of trouble, but as this is a young squad he would fit in and gain experience at this level before moving down to the conference south if results do not turn.
Having Charlie and George running at the opposition defenders in my view could/would cause problem's and may create more chances?
Also is there any players in the "reserves" that could come through to gain valuable experience at the latter end of our league campaign?
-- Edited by morph on Sunday 17th of January 2016 12:23:46 PM
I'm with you on that one, Penny would give 200% and like porter run at big slow defenders .........
As much as I like Charlie, i still don't think he is the answer to our scoring problems. He wasn't prolific for us and although he may be good in a couple of years with a bit more experience, i think at the moment we need a serious goal threat.
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Just throwing out there for debate, If we are to accept the inevitable is it worth having another look at Charlie Penny now he is a couple years older?. Yes I accept that he is not the answer for this level to get us out of trouble, but as this is a young squad he would fit in and gain experience at this level before moving down to the conference south if results do not turn.
Having Charlie and George running at the opposition defenders in my view could/would cause problem's and may create more chances?
Also is there any players in the "reserves" that could come through to gain valuable experience at the latter end of our league campaign?
-- Edited by morph on Sunday 17th of January 2016 12:23:46 PM
GO THERE.... Yep. in the shiitest Conference in history, lets give up and throw the towel in with us a win away from getting out of the relegation zone with a handful of struggling clubs around us.
Lets all stop going now, let the players give 70% instead of the 100% they give every game that gives us a chance of getting out of this mess. IF we get a proven striker in before Haley's comet next comes round. We need the players to keep believing as they will carry on running their nuts off. hopefully some changes will help turn results.
If some people had a brain you'd be ******* dangerous.
The post match interview is an absolute joke, where to start;
"Performance isn't good enough"
Your fault management trio. You've either signed poor players, managed them poorly, organised and given them poor tactics, motivated them poorly, or they no longer want to play for you. It isn't like yesterday was the first time this has happened. It's now the norm.
"if you aren't prepared to work as hard as the other team..."
Are you seriously expecting me to believe people like Harris, Porter, Corne, Lee, Jefford and Williams don't work hard enough? Whatever you might think of selections, their ability, tactics, to question those players work rates is pathetic. Especially when you pick KSA in your starting line up in December.
By the way, where was KSA? I'm not complaining, just amazed no-one seems to have asked, or offered explanation, as to where this "Saint" was.
"The same things keep cropping up"
Yes, they do don't they. Sadly you three prats are three of them. If the same issues keep cropping up this highlights the players inability to act on your instructions, or, your inability to get them to highlight and act on them. I know which option I think the more likely. Or, your signing of players not good enough, again, management fault. Any way you look at it, management accountability at some point down the line.
"They don't see how hard we work"
I don't give a **** how hard you work. If the work you do is of poor quality, or the players you pick are, or the tactics you employ are, workrate only gets you so far. I could go and play centre-forward and work hard, but I'm pretty sure I am not of the required standard. It is a shame as well that you criticise the work rate of the team with things like "if we don't work as hard as the opposition and go the extra half yard" whilst praising your own workrate. What fantastic loyal servants you are proving to be. What a shining beacon of motivation you are.
"They don't appreciate it" - referring to the fans
I don't appreciate you no, and I don't appreciate you continuing to deny the inevitable. Have some pride, resign.
"Keep faith, stay positive"
Sadly I cannot keep what I don't have. I was massively sceptical when you even got an interview, let alone the job, considering it a stop gap after Brown and giving it to someone who knew the club and was cheap rather than someone qualified and capable. I was massively sceptical when the announcement you were going from interim to permanent management within hours of Daysie being sacked, and I was staggered you were not sacked after Carlisle some 6-7 weeks back. There is no faith. You have failed and you are now making it worse, not only for fans, players, sponsors, etc, but for yourselves as well. You are starting to look beyond the useless and stubborn which you did after Carlisle, but now also foolish.
A failure to resign only compounds your inability to highlight any problems, with yourselves as well as your team. If you will not resign you should be sacked, NOW, whatever the financial cost to the club. Mr Hobbins x 2 ... read this forum, read twitter, watch the games on WingsTV. ACT NOW.
Every week we're told that the players are not following instructions! But when training it's all good hard work and impressive performances. I wonder what it is that makes the players forget what they have been told when they leave the changing room on match days? Could it be that their "instructions" simply will not work in a competitive match situation?
Whatever anybody thinks of the management teams performance, I am convinced they are doing what they believe is the the best they can for the Club. My personal view is that whilst they may be good coaches they lack experience and need at least another 5 years proven lexperience before managing at this level. They certainly appear out of their depth at present, however, " you three prats" is uncalled for. Lets keep it on a civil level, Faz is a playing legend at this Club and does not deserve to be referred to in that way.
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RonF, each to their own of course, and you are entitled to your opinion, as am I, so if I want to refer to them as three prats I will. I don't think it such a huge insult it will lead to bloodshed. Praise where it is due, needs to be met with moans when it is due.
Faz WAS a playing legend for our club. But that no longer matters to me. He is employed as the team's manager, and he has overseen the failure of him, his staff, and his players to deliver even close to acceptable levels of performance, style of play, and results.
It is the defiance, the refusal to admit their own errors, and their inability and refusal to move certain people out, that taint their positive attitudes and hardwork. And that is then magnified, I am hearing, by management members effectively laughing at the supporters yesterday, as well as back-slapping and high-fiving of people like KSA when he was subbed a few weeks back.
It isn't good enough, and it isn't acceptable, and it should be acted on by the individuals themselves in resignation, or via the board, by sacking.
I think no individual is bigger than the club, and in this situation when its clearly failed Faz is only doing harm to his reputation by stubbornly hanging on. Many great teams have employed their greatest players to be manager/saviour and rarely its worked out. Everyone loves Faz and we respect his efforts and what he has achieved as a player for the club, but he is not able to take us to the next step after Day. Day took us as far as he could and we would be in a better position than we are now because of his ability as a manager and in his player recruitment. However, after Brown we needed that manager that would get us to mid-table or better and the club has or had the players to do that(though still short of a striker). It must be said that the players that Faz recruited and took gambles on are not of the standard of this league We need experienced players to guide us through the difficult games we have had, otherwise lots of effort and running around like headless chickens will still get us nowhere. There must be an experienced manager out there who is willing to come in and try to rebuild their career with us. I just dont believe that a club in area we are in and with the massive potential that we have does not attract some persons of quality. If it is a money issue then perhaps as I have said before the Hobbins family have to make it clear what their plan is for us. At the moment their lack of leadership is allowing us to flounder. Perhaps get an investor in with the view to progress the club to League 2 but their inaction is meaning that the dream of being a league club is ever further away. Faz must step aside to give another a chance to at least keep us up. The writing was on the wall with the poor showings in our friendly games against lower league clubs. Yes we had a run and a bit of luck but the failure to secure a goal threat and the stubborn approach to retaining and signing unwanted players is shocking. Taking Porter off yesterday was crazy-why? also Kabba against lower league opposition would be a goal threat-why not play him?
This will go down in history as the most confusing episode of management that a football club has every had and when we talk of the damned United we wont be talking about Clough and Leeds it will Faz and Welling!
Quite agree, looking at all the posts that have appeared it's clear that there is general support for Faz as a guy and a an icon of a past player. But there is also a general agreement that as the figure head of a Management Team of 3, it does not work. Some of the comments have been extreme but the underlying theme is the same. Time is running out for anyone coming in to turn things around, we keep waiting for a change or a result from the next match, whilst other teams take action, Welling continue to flounder. The Board / Owners MUST take action NOW.
GO THERE.... Yep. in the shiitest Conference in history, lets give up and throw the towel in with us a win away from getting out of the relegation zone with a handful of struggling clubs around us.
Lets all stop going now, let the players give 70% instead of the 100% they give every game that gives us a chance of getting out of this mess. IF we get a proven striker in before Haley's comet next comes round. We need the players to keep believing as they will carry on running their nuts off. hopefully some changes will help turn results.
If some people had a brain you'd be ******* dangerous.
If it a dig at my comments - please read my comments properly BEFORE coming out with personal remarks like ******DANGEROUS - I said Charlie Penny was not the answer to our current problem's and I quote the Conference south if results did not turn - Not once have I said throw the towel in and give up. The point I was making if things do not get better and we are doomed give some youngsters valued experience at this level as preparation for the division below.
