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Ball over the top that Nelson allows to bounce. There forward runs straight through to score.

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0-1 Half Time.



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Sounds like the usual crap. Did many people turn up to the funday stuff?

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Yeah the ground looked pretty busy for the fun day. At present there's not been too much fun on the pitch though

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Looks like a long winter battling relegation.....Yes I know it is early but looking like 2 points from 21.....so sad and very disappointing

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0-2 Another penalty.



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6th Penalty in 7 games pathetic

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705 here today. Many won't return after today's performance though.

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Absolutely bloody awful. There just seems to be no improvement at all. What the hell are the players doing in training?! Some of the players were knackered and huffing and puffing within the first ten minutes.

Very lucky not to be 3-0 down at half-time where Chelmsford missed two absolute sitters.

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Glad I didnt risk the traffic to go today.....!

Very poor!

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Rubbish again
Squad not good enough.

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The first looked off side to me, and a complete miskick for an equaliser didn't help.
Yet again hit the woodwork.
Let's try and stay positive eh?
We ain't into bloody September yet.

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1st offside not for me long hoof out Nelson caught out again.
I don't see positive's even if it is only 7 games.
We be in sept next week concord rangers massive game.

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The first was not off side. Nelson let the ball bounce and there striker ran past him to score.

Stay positive? Have you seen all the games so far? We've not played a side that I think will be top 8 this season. Ebbsfleet would have had our pants down. 2 points out of 7 games considering the teams we have played is no where near good enough.

We keep bringing strikers in but we have no-one capable of giving them the service to score. Yet we still have the same defenders that make mistakes over and over again.



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Can't comment on today as I was roaming the Somerset Levels trying to avoid the carnage on the M5. However......

 

I remember similar straits after a loss at Eastleigh two August Bank Holidays ago. I also remember one player standing up and saying this is not good enough for me and not good enough for my club. He then led and played sufficiently well in the next 15 games to get a transfer to a League one club and start to get us out of the slurry. Yes, he had an advantage in that he had been at the club for a season but he had not been involved much for several reasons.

We really could do with this again. Anyone want to step forward because it isn't obvious at the moment. You may not get the end results H did but even a decent percentage of that would be most welcome at the moment. You'd certainly be welcome back through the gates by the support at any time in the future



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Simply heartbreaking, the players are just not good enough. No where near good enough either. Six penalties in seven is disgusting, relegation is a certaininty with this team



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 was told today relegated teams return from where they came so for us would be Southen League (oh joy)



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First half we were so poor, Chelmsford just wanted it more. Slight improvement in second half but usual penalty fiasco ended all hope. Even if MG does move himself upstairs, any new manager is going to struggle inheriting this poor squad. They all need to be replaced! Only the keeper deserves some merit who has been outstanding, fantastic saves again today. I see WIE are calling this the worst ever Welling team, it hurts but would have to agree. Too many players recruited from lower leagues who simply are not good enough.  

Interesting reading comments on the warm up as I was sitting there today watching it and it does seem to lack any form of intensity. It's all very laid back, few drill runs but then passing the ball about and then lining up to have pot shots at goal which most end up in the terraces.

There also appears no leadership on the pitch, the Chelmsford captain did not stop shouting and encouraging all game, could hear sod all from our skipper. Our bench is also very quiet, MG hardly says a word and DM only makes an appearance on the touch line when things start going wrong. All seems rather odd.

The only credit I can give MG is the work off the pitch, the family fun day today was excellent. Such a shame that any newcomers who came today won't be rushing back anytime soon after watching the way we played.

 



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Certainly the worst Welling team performance in over 30 years of supporting, hopeless.



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Absolute rubbish! Bloody clueless. As it's been said earlier. What the **** are they doing in training? I don't want to be hurtful to anyone but we haven't got a decent fullback at the club. Do they practice keeping an organised shape. Do they practice bloody anything at all. The whole organisation of the football is woeful from the warm up to the final whistle. We're ****e. Utter utter ****e. Is this what we've got to put up with all season. Jesus wept! It's awful!

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The warm up is a complete shambles, you can just imagine how bad training is during the week.

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RELEGATION. Thanks MG.

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Although I started trying to stay positive and defend the team on here at first, I must admit there seems to have been no improvement since the beginning of the season, even with so-called better signings.

However in saying that, we were in line today with our back four when their striker latched onto the through ball and scored. It wasn't even a close call, he was miles offside! The only problem was that the linesman was even further behind play so couldn't flag for it as he had no idea either way, even though we tried to change his mind!

The second goal seemed to come about from another 50:50 tackle, from which both players appeared to miss the ball and go down at the same time. The referee, however, seemed intent on giving the penalty without taking a second or two to think about it. Surely it's time to question these penalty decisions with the league? I believe MG said in an interview that things even themselves out over a season. All I can say is it's going to be a bloody excellent few games hopefully some time soon!

Finally, I know this doesn't relate to the way the team played, but I can't remember a game in recent years when an opposing team has managed to kick the ball away and stop quick free kicks happening so many times without being booked, until the 90th minute that is - they certainly knew how to play the ref, something we don't do!


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 was told today relegated teams return from where they came so for us would be Southen League (oh joy)


 By whom? Someone should tell H&W pretty quick as both Havant Town and Waterlooville  were Southern League. If Eastbourne got relegated they would go back in the Southern? How would that work when the whole point of reorganising the Leagues was to make the Southern essentially an M5/A14 league to assist with travelling. You don't get the choice these days, you fit where geography dictates. Ask Oxford,  Stortford, Lowestoft and Flackwell Heath in recent times



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First and foremost well done to the Goldberg clan for organising the fun day. From what I have seen and heard it was very well received and a real positive step. Now for the not so fun part....

I should say first up that there were some mitigating circumstances yesterday with two centre backs and two central midfielders missing and therefore a few square pegs in round holes. However that can't gloss over another abject performance - things appear to be getting worse rather than better.

Lewington has been the one (and only) plus of the season to date. He is a decent keeper but is getting far too much practice behind what can only be described as an inept bunch in front of him. I will excuse the young lad at right back from the youth team who was thrown in at the deep end and acquitted himself far better than some of the senior players around him. The other three parts to the back four were simply woeful - as I have said elsewhere if you sign too many Ryman Premier league players you end up with a Ryman Premier league team and we are fast becoming one of those....I realise that things are not great at the other end of the field as well but surely MG and Co have to address the glaring issues in defence. It's not as if other teams have to work hard to score a goal - outside of the customary rash tackle for a penalty it was a simple hoof over the top from back to front that caused us no end of problems yesterday?! Contrast our centre halves to Chris Bush, who we know first hand has his limitations, but strolled through the game yesterday without breaking sweat.

I did see some promise in PJD and LVD in the wide positions although their decision making could be better - with better plays supporting them then they could prove to be decent players at this level. Playing a centre half and centre forward in central midfield was enforced and I felt both lads tried hard and it is difficult to be over critical of them to be honest. And then we come to the forwards ( I won't call them strikers anymore) I have spent a season and a half watching our so called forwards stand around getting beaten to the ball, fail to close down the opposition and not even bother to jump and try and head the ball - please forgive me but I don't want to watch another one. And the other one was little better - he missed a chance to equalise that my cat would have scored and his response to that miss was to go into hiding for most of the second half after that. Yes Chelmsford could/should have been out of sight by that stage but they weren't and we simply can't afford to throw away chances like that. No doubt there will be more strikers thrown at the issue before our next game...

Also can someone tell me what the coaching team is all about...?? That is the second home game in succession where our lads have emerged five minute before the start of the second half and just milled around waiting for the game to restart. Were they given a rocket up the backside because they weren't exactly quaking in their boots or itching for the game to restart. We appear to have a plethora of coaches yet they have run out of things to say after ten minutes?! If that is the case then I will volunteer to go in the dressing room and give them my "thoughts" for those five minutes..... It's not like they are doing any drills at half time either - all it needed was a couple of them to spark up a fag and it could have been Danson Park on a Sunday morning........

I have tried very hard to be patient. "Judge me after ten games" was the quote if I recall........well I have managed seven and the patience has almost completely evaporated. Disorganised. Inept. Clueless. Naive. Slow. Disinterested. Take your pick but, on yesterday's showing I will opt for GUTLESS....

 

 



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I have to say. After being involved at the club last season and the end of the season before attending the game on Saturday was a real low.

I can't dispute MG has come in and helped off the field stuff but is definitely not a manager. Things may not have gone out way last season under Faz but we were only a player or too light and unfortunately the management team were not given the resources to address this.

The players MG has brought in are all in my opinion ryman standard and I cannot see the situation improving.

A real shame

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I have to say. After being involved at the club last season and the end of the season before attending the game on Saturday was a real low.

I can't dispute MG has come in and helped off the field stuff but is definitely not a manager. Things may not have gone out way last season under Faz but we were only a player or too light and unfortunately the management team were not given the resources to address this.

The players MG has brought in are all in my opinion ryman standard and I cannot see the situation improving.

A real shame


 We were more than a player or too light. We had no-one capable of putting the ball in the back of the net. Faz put too many players on contract so they could not be moved out. Plus with additional funds and money they got, there were funds available. Not a knock on Frost and Ashby, I think the damage had already been done by the time they came into the club.

MG managed to win the league with Bromley so he has done it at this level, but for whatever reason it's not clicking together. Agreed regarding some of the players though. They are not up to this level unfortunately.



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Wingnut's review of yesterday's proceedings is about right. It was so depressing. Missing three injured players and a third on paternity duty did not help.  Three of them played at Truro where we made a more than reasonable effort. Indeed,  Harry Crawford in midfield in the second half was a revelation - we kept the ball, distributed it well and thrived on a bit of confidence.

Short of getting an entirely new team, I don't know what can be done about the situation. Perhaps it is something that can be addressed in the coaching? Confidence is certainly a big factor. And not having to chop and change the team and tactics because of injuries etc would also help. Apart from that, just pray. Also, well done to MG and supporting cast for the successful fun event for children. MG is without doubt a bit of a whiz at things like that and other off the field stuff, so fair play to him. I also think he is a big enough man to concentrate on being the chairman boss if he thinks somebody else can do a better job on the field of play.



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Maybe more than one player then and I agree a couple should prob not have been given contracts but I am sure there is a huge percentage of people that would love to have the guys back in charge because the football we played was in a different stratosphere to what I saw on Saturday!!

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And I know for a fact there are players currently there at the club that are on much more money than our highest earners were over the last two seasons!!

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Maybe more than one player then and I agree a couple should prob not have been given contracts but I am sure there is a huge percentage of people that would love to have the guys back in charge because the football we played was in a different stratosphere to what I saw on Saturday!!


 Are you saying that a huge percentage would rather have Faz and Co in charge over the current regime....??

Hahahahahahaha - count me in the small percentage then please.



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 The players MG has brought in are all in my opinion ryman standard and I cannot see the situation improving.

A real shame


 Agreed with what you say about some of the players being not up to this level but explain Tashan, KSA? Where are they playing now? They were deemed good enough to play in the Conference Premier!



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Maybe more than one player then and I agree a couple should prob not have been given contracts but I am sure there is a huge percentage of people that would love to have the guys back in charge because the football we played was in a different stratosphere to what I saw on Saturday!!


Why settle for half measures if we are on that tack. What is Nicky Brigden doing these days... 

 

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