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https://www.kentsportsnews.com/welling-united-v-hampton-richmond-borough-preview-2-11-10-2019/



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0-0 Half Time

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Jebb on for Widdrington
Oyinsan on for Coombes

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0-1

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Agyemang on for Dymond

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0-1 Full Time.

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Disappointing and moist. Hoping for better for Eastleigh!

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Terrible Clueless.

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That was $hit. How on earth Jebb still doesn't get a run is beyond me.
That game was crying out for a midfielder to put his foot on the ball.
Goldburg was blowing out his arse, remaining in our half when on the attck, yet we drop Coombes.
Pre match training was farcical with the captain having to place some discipline into the event.
A f...ing farce is how I see things, and I don't see it getting any better until the IT guru realises he has met his match.
How the F... we have let a play off team turn into this is farcical



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And I thought that England were bad last night! Lots of huff and puff, a couple of good flashes of football but overall pretty dire, on that performance well not beat Eastleigh 



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And I thought that England were bad last night! Lots of huff and puff, a couple of good flashes of football but overall pretty dire, on that performance well not beat Eastleigh 


 If all you get for 8k a week is huff and puff then something is wrong.. 



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It was really poor. Again long ball and no movement. The longer it went you knee it would end 0-1.

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play off finalists to relegation contenders, can't think what has changed from last season.

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Wasn't there today so can't comment on the game, but by the sounds of things this was every bit as dire as some of the other stuff I've witnessed this season. We had just about the best manager at this level last season. Now, we look like a team who will be spending the entire season in the bottom half, chopping and changing things from week to week whilst still never looking like scoring a goal

All very sad - last season saw some of the best football I've ever seen us play in over 30 years of watching (Concord away). This season has already had some of the most forgettable moments (err.....Concord away!). What a difference a season and a manager makes

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The manager


 Dont forget our team from last year, I really think we could of gone up if it wasnt for Jebb getting the unfortunate injury that meant he was out for the majority of the season.



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This week Hampton last week Tavistock, not much difference in the performance except for the standard of the opposition. Both were poor performances, long ball and nothing from midfield to cause the opposition any great trouble. Jebb has got to get a start soon otherwise he might as well go elsewhere, in essence we have a good squad but, at present, they are not functioning as they should. Maybe a lack of passion on the pitch with too many players blaming each other and, from what I can see, a total lack of passion in the dugout. We have a big game next week which will realise £6000 as a loser fee but I hope the red shirts can lift themselves and give a performance that could see us into the 1st round, with financial benefits that could bring, but I am not holding out too many hopes. At present 442 seems to be sacrosanct, perhaps its time to try something different.




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so thats get this right, after watching welling from the stands last season winning a cup and getting to the play off final, goldberg thought this aint working thats bin the manager and play a different formation, its genius.

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Ffing crap. The fact that most of us could of played better than most of our so called team says it all. We have lost the best manager since Jamie Day to ****ing Dartford and weve got.......... FFS. **** ABSOLUTE ****

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Did anyone expect anything different from when MG was last in charge?

The football back then was terrible and it sounds as if it is now, what shocks me more is that people are surprised.

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We should have signed Jack Barham before he joined Dorking.  Jebb needs to start.



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We should have signed Jack Barham before he joined Dorking.  Jebb needs to start.


 With what money? Mg is skint apart from fa cup money and that A) won't of been released yet and B won't last long when it does.



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VAT bill 1 - 0 The rest of the season

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Jamison wrote:
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We should have signed Jack Barham before he joined Dorking.  Jebb needs to start.


 With what money? Mg is skint apart from fa cup money and that A) won't of been released yet and B won't last long when it does.


 The money he is paying Danny Waldren when we have 5 other central midfielders. 



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Jamison wrote:
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We should have signed Jack Barham before he joined Dorking.  Jebb needs to start.


 With what money? Mg is skint apart from fa cup money and that A) won't of been released yet and B won't last long when it does.


 

I said this weeks back: The whole thing is a pie-in-the-sky and got shouted down!!!!!!!!!!!! So has he got money or not?????????

SK going to DA1 is nothing to do with MG. There must have been reasons why SK didn't stay (he had a contract, he could have stayed), and he is known to want to break the bank, which as mentioned is not full. 

Even if the reality is the league position and results are a concern......

The FA Cup game is not un-winnable......so keep the faith! 



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Chris wrote:
Jamison wrote:
Chris wrote:

We should have signed Jack Barham before he joined Dorking.  Jebb needs to start.


 With what money? Mg is skint apart from fa cup money and that A) won't of been released yet and B won't last long when it does.


 The money he is paying Danny Waldren when we have 5 other central midfielders. 


 I like Waldren, hes a nice bloke and a good player, but the fact that it was going tits up at billericay and he could just phone up his mate mark and get a deal is a joke. 

And that is Mark's problem, tries to please everyone all the time and ultimately the bubble will burst.



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I bet I could write the script for the interview answers LOL!!

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I bet I could write the script for the interview answers LOL!!


 We was unlucky but I'm dissapointed in them, we've got to do better and I've told them that. 



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That was $hit. How on earth Jebb still doesn't get a run is beyond me.
That game was crying out for a midfielder to put his foot on the ball.
Goldburg was blowing out his arse, remaining in our half when on the attck, yet we drop Coombes.
Pre match training was farcical with the captain having to place some discipline into the event.
A f...ing farce is how I see things, and I don't see it getting any better until the IT guru realises he has met his match.
How the F... we have let a play off team turn into this is farcical



-- Edited by Hoof it on Saturday 12th of October 2019 05:29:09 PM


 Because the manager of that play off final team was sent packing and hardly any of the players were retained and we've signed anyone who played for Bromley 5 seasons ago?

 



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What i cannot get my head around is, its obvious we will be nowhere near the play offs, so why spend several hundreds a week on another midfielder? Might as well burn about 15 grand. Nothing against Waldren at all , hes a decent player and tries his balls off but its just wasting money getting another midfielder.

The pitch doesn't look great this season now Piggy has gone too. We seem to be spending the same money on and off the pitch but we've turned into a bottom half team / club. Hopefully they can get up for the Eastleigh game and we get a game vs a league club that gets on TV and earns some money as it will lift the players too.

If we lose to Eastleigh the players will be on the sunbeds 6 months early and looking below them in the table as the play offs will be just a dream.

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Goldberg has to be held accountable, infact the roots of the issues are he's made himself exactly that by taking bad advice and making decisions at both playing and non-playing levels.

Let not only the best since jamie day, but the best manager in the league go citing a reduced budget, then spends exactly the same on players who are not even close to being as good as what we had last year in terms of not only ability but attitude also.

Majority of last season's squad have bettered themselves this season and good luck to them but how many of this squad will play at a higher level next season? They are past it or on the decline yet are able to pick up mates rates because MG dont know how else to manage a team! And did we not see this before? Sean Francis anyone? Jamie Slabber?

I commented last year how coombes isn't the player he was, spent to long picking up to much money at ricay and he's attitude has gone. Didn't set the world alight when we had him on loan and yet people were still jacking themselves off when we signed him this year!

Off the pitch the club is a shambles, talk of MG being skint all around the league doesn't get started for no reason or helped by his own comments last week which were quite frankly stupid, the pitch as mentioned looks terrible and yet that service is now paid for rather than done by piggy. Commercially no improvement yet there is a commercial manager? And let's not even start on how much money was wasted on pipe dreams sorry planning permissions for a new stadium. 

As mentioned above, hopefully they can start to redeem themselves on Saturday and it might kick them into life, if they cant get up for it then they dont deserve to be there



-- Edited by Jamison on Sunday 13th of October 2019 12:47:59 AM

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there's shadow up the pitch and into the goalmouths, which shows the pitch is under stress, but it won't matter cos long balls will miss most of it
and then, remember it won't matter cos there's a new ground in the off'ing.

seriously, MG is a trier, but it's not going forwards.

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I could moan all day about yesterday's shocker but it goes beyond just that one game and I can't really see why? It's not as if we've had a string of bad injuries and yet I have seen some good performances earlier in the season. We were worth the point at Havant, ground out and defended well for three points against Maidstone, decent (and unlucky) at Billericay, easy wins against Oxford and Tonbridge but performances seem to have suffered since Concord. 

McCallum has been out due to injury but wasn't starting anyway, Jay Rich injured but Okosieme is more than proving his worth at the back but for me the biggest miss is Sanchez at right back (I still don't know how he got suspended for so long). I wonder if too many midfield changes have affected the team?



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Despite it being a mess we have players who are capable, so is anyone of our coaches motivating them? Are we preparing them well? We are losing or failing to beat terrible teams. Concord, Weymouth, Hampton, Eastbourne etc

Have we got coaches that can motivate, have we got coaches that prepare the players? Cant see MG watching the oppo or putting on the sessions at training?

Things have to change but hopefully thats not players out and players in. Either the manager and coaches motivate and prepare the players they bought in or bring in people who are capable of getting experienced players to perform.

The club is a shadow of what it was on and off the pitch and the root of all that is decision making by people out of their depth and Goldberg trusting people who are just costing him money or having him over.

Rumour is we are now paying the (inexperienced part time) secretary and have promoted him to general manager? We are paying Jordans to provide a bad pitch? Do we have a commercial manager for the first time in a few seasons? Has anyone seen one deal that theyve done? Does anybody know what they are doing? Who is appointing these people? Goldberg or his right hand man?

Its self inflicted and we are amateur on and off the pitch. Just hope we dont get relegated because that really would be some achievement by those in charge and the coaches.

 

 



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Relegation bound....have no hope for things improving....harsh but sadly true imo.

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I worked in the morning so I couldnt go oxford so took the mrs to your game.
I thought in parts you were the only team that tried to play football and their only tactic is long ball. They never played through the middle at all yet I thought at times you lot played decent football. Ive not seen you enough to judge but an outsider looking in would think its hard to play football against a side whos only tactic is knock it high and long and win the 2nd balls. Maybe Im wrong as I dont obviously watch you but if with the occasional long ball/pass if anyone tried to play on the deck it was only you lot.

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TheGhostOfJodyBrown wrote:

 Who is appointing these people?   .


 

Certainly not the bank manager.

 

 



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Jamison wrote:

Goldberg has to be held accountable, infact the roots of the issues are he's made himself exactly that by taking bad advice and making decisions at both playing and non-playing levels.

Let not only the best since jamie day, but the best manager in the league go citing a reduced budget, then spends exactly the same on players who are not even close to being as good as what we had last year in terms of not only ability but attitude also.

Majority of last season's squad have bettered themselves this season and good luck to them but how many of this squad will play at a higher level next season? They are past it or on the decline yet are able to pick up mates rates because MG dont know how else to manage a team! And did we not see this before? Sean Francis anyone? Jamie Slabber?

I commented last year how coombes isn't the player he was, spent to long picking up to much money at ricay and he's attitude has gone. Didn't set the world alight when we had him on loan and yet people were still jacking themselves off when we signed him this year!

Off the pitch the club is a shambles, talk of MG being skint all around the league doesn't get started for no reason or helped by his own comments last week which were quite frankly stupid, the pitch as mentioned looks terrible and yet that service is now paid for rather than done by piggy. Commercially no improvement yet there is a commercial manager? And let's not even start on how much money was wasted on pipe dreams sorry planning permissions for a new stadium. 

As mentioned above, hopefully they can start to redeem themselves on Saturday and it might kick them into life, if they cant get up for it then they dont deserve to be there



-- Edited by Jamison on Sunday 13th of October 2019 12:47:59 AM


 Yea I've been wondering about the so called ground redevelopment plans/ announcement..wasnt we supposed to hear within 6 weeks...that was over 2 months ago



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Got to say it was an awful game (from both sides) but I was quite perturbed looking back on Saturday, in particular with regard to our organisation on and off the pitch.

I didn't see the pre match warm up that someone alluded to earlier on this thread. However, unless my eyes were deceiving me, I did see all of our management team in and around the dugout for the majority of the half time interval. Now they may have already said their piece in the dressing room (and SK used to do his bit and then come out well before the second half started) but surely one of them should be in there at all times going over tactics, set pieces, options etc..etc...?? Also, not the first time this season, Anderson was out on the pitch well before the other players emerged for the second half - is he exempt from team talks or just not interested in listening to them..?! 

The game itself had 0-0 written all over it and, despite playing poorly, we should have taken a point and moved on. I make that one goal in the last three home league games (and that a penalty) and, in the Eastbourne and Hampton games I am not sure we had anything on target, certainly in the second half of both those games..?? At no time did we change the look of the team for the opposition. Central midfielder off....central midfielder on. Forward off........forward on. Had we had another winger on the bench then I am sure Green would have been replaced by one of them at some point..?! I say Green as Cook seems to be immune from the hook as he does pretty much his own thing week in week out. How many times when we had the ball and looked for an outlet on the right and he wasn't there and, when we don't have the ball, he had wandered off somewhere leaving his full back exposed time after time. I can't fault the effort and enthusiasm of the bloke but it reminds me of the school playground when kids used to chase around after the ball for hours on end..?! And lest we forget the farce of the free kicks on Saturday - first up was Cook (has he taken a decent one this season...?) next up it was Coombes and, in the second half, Widdrington had a go. I expect Waldren would have been next in line or maybe there would have been a game of rock/paper/scissors to decide who took the next one. The real irony is that we probably have one of the best dead ball takers in Non League football on the bench but it appears he is only permitted 15/20 minutes every week at the moment....

I would have thought that most of these things should be discussed in training, before the game and/or at half time and not decided by committee during the game. Even Sunday sides know who is taking set pieces before they go on the pitch. And it would be an idea for substitutes to be told exactly who they are marking at set plays rather than give the opposition the freedom of the six yard box to score the winner.

I hope I am wrong but if we show the same application as Saturday, play the same personnel and formation next weekend then I fear we are going to be in for a very long afternoon...



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