Braintree lost 4-0 at home to Hampton. Our result a couple of weeks ago is beginning to show more about them than us. We need either a proper centre forward or Coombes to step up. Bradley Goldberg should be dropped.
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First 20 minutes we were by far the better team, then the Sussed put our left back is pure pony and took the lead, players then through in the towel, to a man strolled off at half time with their heads down. Second half started as the first finished, then they score again, Goldberg then makes changes. Too late. Pro-act dont react. Time for him to Chuck it and get someone in who could turn things around before were in the bottom two.
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It seems we are pretty much a lower mid table team at best. Very disappointing after last year. Thank feck SKs magic hasnt fully taken place at the black and white ****e. Lets hope MG will give SK a tactical master class on Boxing Day and NYD and deliver 6 points. LOL
Having listened to the manager interview I could swap any of the last 5 interviews about and they would all sound the same....disappointing...need more ammunition..we have a good thing going at the club...dressing room is great....and so on
Certainly a disappointing interview, MG didnt come across as being particularly surprised / disappointed / upset, all the usual platitudes and an assurance that more players will be arriving.
so we sink towards the relegation zone, we are told we have some quality players, but they are not being motivated to play as a team, in my opinion.
not looking forward to the Christmas / New Year fixtures, it could be a painful watch!
Through different owners, managers players I support my team through thick and thin, I never turn my back on the club. For every promotion challenge, we have a relegation battle or even mid table mediocrity. You dont know whether I give Mark feedback or not because I choose not to put it on here.
All I will say is that if it doesn't work out I am sure Mark will do the right thing for the club. I've been here long enough to see the highs and lows. Enjoy the highs when they are here. I just find it odd with the vitriol on this forum when we lose, is that supporting your club!
-- Edited by Matt The Hat on Sunday 1st of December 2019 06:12:36 PM
I just find it odd with the vitriol of on this forum when we lose, is that supporting your club!
Everyone is entitled to their views, especially those who part with hard earned pounds to support their team. It's called free speech. However, I agree that some of the negative comments both on here and from the sidelines do not help anyone's confidence and isn't what I consider to be support either.
.to the point where Glenn Tamplin is invited to invest in the club.
Once again, like a huge number of things that you have posted on here, that is not true. Why not find out the facts first before posting complete nonsense?
You clearly have some sort of issue with MG and take every opportunity you can to slag him off. Yes things have been very poor this season but as Matt said, there's ups and downs with any club over the tears, unfortunately far to many downs over the 29 years I've been going to watch Welling! Supporting a club is about getting behind them through thick and thin, and a number of people on here seem not to praise when due, but slag off anything they can at the slightest opportunity, especially when some used to love him a short while ago.
Very sad indeed!
-- Edited by Polo on Sunday 1st of December 2019 07:07:35 PM
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Through different owners, managers players I support my team through thick and thin, I never turn my back on the club. For every promotion challenge, we have a relegation battle or even mid table mediocrity. You dont know whether I give Mark feedback or not because I choose not to put it on here.
All I will say is that if it doesn't work out I am sure Mark will do the right thing for the club. I've been here long enough to see the highs and lows. Enjoy the highs when they are here. I just find it odd with the vitriol on this forum when we lose, is that supporting your club!
-- Edited by Matt The Hat on Sunday 1st of December 2019 06:12:36 PM
Perhaps supporting your club is giving clear honesty rather than blowing smoke up the jacksy of a man who clearly doesn't know his limits.
To be manager and flounder with ex-Premier league players in your squad, then return as manager to recreate the mess you've previously created....only this time with limited, dwindling, begged and borrowed funds......to the point where Glenn Tamplin is invited to invest in the club.
Whatever you are smoking, put it out. Go outside, and get some fresh air in your lungs cos having your head up the proverbial is suffocating your ability to see s.hit from clay.
MG is a lovely, pleasant, amiable chap..................he is not a manager and his ability to run a non-league club is equal to his ability to run Palace in the Prem.
Think I said it a few months back: WAKE UP!
Tamplin approached the club not the other way round.
I suggest you get your facts straight if you are going to slag people off on here.
And, before you ask, I am many things but an arse licker I am not.
All I will say is that if it doesn't work out I am sure Mark will do the right thing for the club.
What part of anything to do with the club at the moment is working out exactly?
Everyone knows the right thing for him to do is step down as manager, yet he hasn't/wont.
If this was some joe blogs as manager he would of been gone a long time ago, and you would of fully backed it.
But we're ment to believe MG and the spill he comes out with every week..
18th of January is a long time to wait for a league win, but you tell me where one is coming before that with the current setup in place.
Funny you talk about the right thing for someone to do....
Your actions at Hungerford away when you acted like a compete knob and got myself and another supporter punched when coming to your aid, along with my girlfriend who got elbowed by people rushing into the melee. You then tweeted the player involved inviting him to come to a pub and settle things when again my girlfriend and Matt's young boy was there.
The right thing to have done would have been to see everyone the next week, apologise, buy everyone a drink, and things would have been sorted. Instead you did nothing, then embarked on slagging off the club at every opportunity. Then a few weeks ago turning up to a home game (When you had emailed a club official saying you would never set foot in PVR while they were in charge) and couldn't again face coming to see apparently what were your friends as you didn'twant to face anyone. All your anger is strange considering you used to be very friendly with Mark, ring him up for chats about players and have friendly bets and a drink after each game. A lot of people are genuinely surprised at where your anger has come from. A real shame considering all the trips, weekends and good times that you as part of a group of mates have experienced over the years.
Anyway, just something to think about when you talk about the right thing to do. It's not too late....
-- Edited by Polo on Sunday 1st of December 2019 07:19:53 PM
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Regardless of people's opinions, I think censorship regarding posts isn't the way to go.
As for my opinion on the current mess Welling are in, this firmly lies as the Chairman/Managers feet.
I for one am beginning to get F...Ed off watching what appears to be his plaything.
Regardless of people's opinions, I think censorship regarding posts isn't the way to go. As for my opinion on the current mess Welling are in, this firmly lies as the Chairman/Managers feet. I for one am beginning to get F...Ed off watching what appears to be his plaything.
Everyone is entitled to their point of view, as such I have never deleted any comments over the last few months as people have the right to post their views. What they do need to be careful with however is making statements that are 100% inaccurate.
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All I will say is that if it doesn't work out I am sure Mark will do the right thing for the club.
What part of anything to do with the club at the moment is working out exactly?
Everyone knows the right thing for him to do is step down as manager, yet he hasn't/wont.
If this was some joe blogs as manager he would of been gone a long time ago, and you would of fully backed it.
But we're ment to believe MG and the spill he comes out with every week..
18th of January is a long time to wait for a league win, but you tell me where one is coming before that with the current setup in place.
Funny you talk about the right thing for someone to do....
Your actions at Hungerford away when you acted like a compete knob and got myself and another supporter punched when coming to your aid, along with my girlfriend who got elbowed by people rushing into the melee. You then tweeted the player involved inviting him to come to a pub and settle things when again my girlfriend and Matt's young boy was there.
The right thing to have done would have been to see everyone the next week, apologise, buy everyone a drink, and things would have been sorted. Instead you did nothing, then embarked on slagging off the club at every opportunity. Then a few weeks ago turning up to a home game (When you had emailed a club official saying you would never set foot in PVR while they were in charge) and couldn't again face coming to see apparently what were your friends as you didn'twant to face anyone. All your anger is strange considering you used to be very friendly with Mark, ring him up for chats about players and have friendly bets and a drink after each game. A lot of people are genuinely surprised at where your anger has come from. A real shame considering all the trips, weekends and good times that you as part of a group of mates have experienced over the years.
Anyway, just something to think about when you talk about the right thing to do. It's not too late....
-- Edited by Polo on Sunday 1st of December 2019 07:19:53 PM
Wow, ok...my points are about football, and the state of the club, which you know ain't wrong..
If your happy for the club to carry on the way it's going fine, most are not...if it was a Jody brown in charge, would you still be so blaise about it? Or calling for his head at every opportunity? As for the rest of it...fair point in parts, but wrong time/place dont you think.
Perhaps supporting your club is giving clear honesty rather than blowing smoke up the jacksy of a man who clearly doesn't know his limits.
To be manager and flounder with ex-Premier league players in your squad, then return as manager to recreate the mess you've previously created....only this time with limited, dwindling, begged and borrowed funds......to the point where Glenn Tamplin is invited to invest in the club.
Whatever you are smoking, put it out. Go outside, and get
Censorship apparently I blow smoke up MGs arse, really how insulting, the facts mentioned in the post are incorrect too
The sense of irony here is the guy stuck in the biggest budget we've ever had last season and the brutal truth was that SK didn't get us promotion we lost in the final!!! Is that his play thing. The brutal truth is that our playing budget without his input would not make us competitive. As I've said if results carry on a negative run of course he would move out of the role.
For the record I'm not happy with the performances on the pitch and certain things that occur behind the scenes. Despite what you've posted in the past J the budget currently is substantially lower than LY, and I've seen proof of what the budgets were. The budget LY was probably the highest it's ever been in the clubs history and yes we had in my opinion one of the best managers we've ever had and matching LY would have been difficult.
The budget this year however should again in my opinion, be good enough to be challenging for the play offs and we are miles away from that at the moment. If you look through the spine of the team I believe we have in Swaine, Waldren, Cook, Coombes, Ming, Wils etc a team more than capable of making the playoffs. The main problem this season has been scoring goals, not so much keeping them out, and while Brad has played well in places, Coombes seems a world away from the player we know he can be.
Do i think MG is the answer as manager? No, and I've spoken to him about that. I think he's signed too many players he knows too well and that maybe has been is undoing. However the big thing the club needs is movement off the pitch in terms of a new ground or redevelopment of PVR. Despite what Mr Wingman has said on occasions, i have seen a ton of plans drawn up at considerable expense, a huge dossier of correspondence and details of meetings that MG has had with numerous people about numerous sites and I also know through a third party who is a secretary of a company where we were looking at a site, that he has had numerous meetings there trying to push things forward. Whatever the reason it's not happened s probably down to a number of factors , but he's definitely been trying!
Maybe MG needs to come out and say that the focus isn't on the team, it's about reducing the budget and working on off the pitch stuff, while trying to stay comfortably mid table, but he has said that by him taking charge of the team he is saving a considerable amount of money in not employing a manager. I do have a hunch that should we lose next week, he will step aside and bring someone in though which could be the best thing to do.
Maybe it's not the right time/place for what i said, it's just very strange how your opinion changed very quickly after that event.
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Should of just said this in the first place really, although i might of commented on individual players wages who are taking the piss and not performing I.e coombes who you have pointed out yourself, but not the budget itself, other may have.
Let's hope you're right if we do lose, as that is the right thing to do...that's all anyone wants, he needs to let go.
The man is a trier, can't fault him on that, but it never seems to get him anywhere does it?
The plans at CONSIDERABLE expense have gone nowhere,
And the worry for most is where is the money coming from? And how much is left? I dont expect you to know or answer that, it's just what most want to know...
And that's fine, I think my feelings were already bordering how they are now and is part coincidence.
I've just given my opinion, for me the fact that you wanted to bring something personal into it is disappointing as were my actions that day.
Tamplin approached the club not the other way round.
I suggest you get your facts straight if you are going to slag people off on here.
And, before you ask, I am many things but an arse licker I am not.
I offer apologies to Matt The Hat, that was not stated well about blowing smoke - sorry.
So Tamplin made the call...... on the back of knowing the club's financial state. THink his quote on BBC was something like "I had the chance to go in at Welling or Macclesfield (some northern team).
No one is an arse licker, but some folk have trouble accepting the regression, while being promised progression.
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All I will say is that if it doesn't work out I am sure Mark will do the right thing for the club.
What part of anything to do with the club at the moment is working out exactly?
Everyone knows the right thing for him to do is step down as manager, yet he hasn't/wont.
If this was some joe blogs as manager he would of been gone a long time ago, and you would of fully backed it.
But we're ment to believe MG and the spill he comes out with every week..
18th of January is a long time to wait for a league win, but you tell me where one is coming before that with the current setup in place.
Funny you talk about the right thing for someone to do....
Your actions at Hungerford away when you acted like a compete knob and got myself and another supporter punched when coming to your aid, along with my girlfriend who got elbowed by people rushing into the melee. You then tweeted the player involved inviting him to come to a pub and settle things when again my girlfriend and Matt's young boy was there.
The right thing to have done would have been to see everyone the next week, apologise, buy everyone a drink, and things would have been sorted. Instead you did nothing, then embarked on slagging off the club at every opportunity. Then a few weeks ago turning up to a home game (When you had emailed a club official saying you would never set foot in PVR while they were in charge) and couldn't again face coming to see apparently what were your friends as you didn'twant to face anyone. All your anger is strange considering you used to be very friendly with Mark, ring him up for chats about players and have friendly bets and a drink after each game. A lot of people are genuinely surprised at where your anger has come from. A real shame considering all the trips, weekends and good times that you as part of a group of mates have experienced over the years.
Anyway, just something to think about when you talk about the right thing to do. It's not too late....
-- Edited by Polo on Sunday 1st of December 2019 07:19:53 PM
Not like you to make things personal, or try to control people's views.
Read what you wrote about MG shouldn't be manager - something we can agree on.
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Regardless of people's opinions, I think censorship regarding posts isn't the way to go. As for my opinion on the current mess Welling are in, this firmly lies as the Chairman/Managers feet. I for one am beginning to get F...Ed off watching what appears to be his plaything.
Everyone is entitled to their point of view, as such I have never deleted any comments over the last few months as people have the right to post their views. What they do need to be careful with however is making statements that are 100% inaccurate.
I thought we were comfortably the better side for the first 25 minutes and could (or maybe should) have been in front. We seemed to want to almost walk the ball in at times when a slightly quicker pass or shot might have done the trick. I was very impressed with the young lad Johnson at right back who reminded me a little in stature and style of Barney Williams?? He was positive with ball and well positioned and most of the problems we encountered came down the other flank...It was a very soft goal to concede but we should have equalised straight away. Dorking seemed content to knock long balls down the channels and whilst they had pace up top they weren't causing us too many problems.
Second half we started quite brightly again but once we got caught for the second goal and it was effectively game over. They definitely changed tactics a little bit at half time with the big number 17 dictating play from in front of the defence and their passing was much shorter and they concentrated on attacking down our left side and I am not sure we did anything to counter their change in tactics. I lost count of the times Anderson conceded possession but the most alarming thing for me was that when the ball went past him he showed little or no desire to cover and basically just jogged casually back to his position (and not for the first time this season). We can all have bad games but the basics of commitment and effort should be there regardless. My boy also remarked that he looked like he was knackered and that's when the players were leaving the field at half time..?! We don't seem to have a lot of naturally left sided players in the squad but surely Green is worth a shot at left back where he has played in the past...?? If Coombes had scored with a header from Cook's free kick then it may have been an interesting last quarter of an hour but, in truth, the longer the game wore on it looked like being 3-0 rather than 2-1...
Now we clearly have a few injuries in the camp and that is tough for all clubs (especially non league ones) to deal with. We haven't had the best season to date and we won't if we keep conceding such soft goals as we did on Saturday. MG remains convinced that the big striker will cure all our problems but I am not convinced it is quite as simple as that. If we do get this striker in then I still think we need to look at one or two changes in other areas of the squad/team as well to make us competitive going forward. We will have a number of strikers in the squad and if we play 4-4-1-1 or 4-4-2 can we or should we accommodate all of them..??
I cannot accept that Mark is managing to save us money when he pays premium wages to a step 6 player who was booted straight out then signs Danny Waldren when we had 38 midfielders then signs Moses.
Simple bin a couple of the players who arent performing and have been paid decent conference south wages and get a premium manager who can organise players and has a contacts book that has more pages than Bromley and Dulwich Hamlet.
Again anyone who thinks the budget at them moment is GREATLY different from last season is being hoodwinked. King already said on the Kent Online podcast he had players playing for less than you would imagine. I would state we haven't got many at the moment on less that you would imagine and even less who are earning their money.
I have seen the weekly wage bill and it is substantially lower than last season, I really did like SK but let's not kid ourselves his budget was the biggest this club has ever had. We didn't get promoted, we were damn close but a high cost.
I do however agree that with the squad we have, it should be a lot higher in the league, but we all agree on that.
I have seen the weekly wage bill and it is substantially lower than last season, I really did like SK but let's not kid ourselves his budget was the biggest this club has ever had. We didn't get promoted, we were damn close but a high cost.
I do however agree that with the squad we have, it should be a lot higher in the league, but we all agree on that.
I will disagree with that, it may be lower than it was at its peak before it was cut last season but id bet good money its in the top 6 or 7 budgets in the league this season and its also going up every week in big chunks. I would be extremely confident that the current budget is the same or more than Kings budget was for the most part.
i am actually slightly dumbfounded that people think our budget is not about the same as last season, we have a squad of historically big earners. Write down a list of the squad, You can add Moses and Waldren to what the budget was all season, doubtful either of those are playing for a glass of squash and a biscuit.
Its genuinely not, but I doubt I will convince you, the budget is quite a way down on last year, we still have a budget in my humble opinion to be in the top 8 in this league.
We are not conceding many goals, but the bigger concern is we are not scoring enough consistently and this is the difference on last season, SK's teams could win 1-0 or 2-1 and could find a goal out of nothing, his teams also had the run of the green in quite a few games we could have lost last season, this year we haven't seen that.
As I said in an earlier post I believe we should be in higher position with our budget, but again no one disagrees whether you are a disgruntled supporter, the manager, coaching staff or the players. It is time for the players to prove their worth and start winning games and going on a run!