New manager confirmed but with the short time frame 

youd imagine its another one of his guys.

Although glad to hear his looking at selling, 

its just not worked at all to say the least.

 

Mark saying he cannot afford a new manager but hes splashed out on significant wages and raises the budget on players like Waldren and Moses and others on less money when if you don't sign one of them you can afford a proper manager who can work with the squad thats in place and move out one or two on non contract to freshen up the squad if he wants to,

The recruitment and coaching have been DIRE, I think if his heart was fully at the club for purely football reasons we would have had a commercial manager over the last 3 years instead of 4 or 5 people who did a terrible job and we would have had Jamie Day or Steve King still here, both did superbly.

MG has admitted its not worked again with him managing and you can see hes really piissed off and hurting.

The best thing we can do now is get rid of a big earner and spend it on a respected, experienced manager with contacts. When he said i am not going to criticise my coaches i find that incredible, they've coached the players all season, taken training and i'm guessing done the oppo analysis as Mark hasn't got time for that, they've also managed the team for 4 matches and got stuffed in in all 4. Its honorable for Mark to take the blame but its also not addressing the issues.

If we get an inexperienced manager and keep the coaches we have done nothing to improve matters, Hopefully Mark can appoint a proper manager who the players and fans have faith in that they can turn this around and hopefully that Manager has his own coaches who can put a buzz and confidence back in training.

If MG really does have his heart in the club then i am sure most would like it if he stayed but just had input with a new manager rather than signed players and wanted to have influence with a manager on shape and tactics etc. Its only recently we've heard rumours of a development being close to happening and a NewCo being launched and the fans knew nothing of any of this, lets be fair theres been nothing on the development said in three years. No wonder with the team struggling that people are getting itchy feet and worrying whats going on when its all been hush hush.

I personally don't see MG selling the club unless the development falls through and his bid doesn't win, Tamplin is in the press saying he could have gone to Welling and there have been unsubstantiated rumours that he offered a lot of money to get involved. IF MG wanted to sell he could have done so.

If Mark does want to sell then surely the first option is it offer to the supporters at what he paid for it.

-- Edited by TheGhostOfJodyBrown on Sunday 5th of January 2020 12:40:02 PM

My picks for new manager in order of preference:

Jamie Day

Adrian Pennock

Liam Daish

Chris Kinner

Phil Handford

Bradley Quinton

Gary Hill

 

The need for a new manager is obvious to all, and has been for a while, perhaps a player / manager like Jaime Day was to begin with? Brings in experience from a higher league and may help the budget.

Id also like to see MG stay as Chairman, as Business management is obviously his proven talent. 

As fans we have every right to be critical of performances, but perhaps some, on this board went too far.

How have we interviewing the best candidates for the job when as far as most people knew the job wasnt vacant and hasnt been at all advertised?

So who has been interviewed and how and why were they approached??

I know who is rumoured to have been given the job and it isnt the kind of news or change Id been hoping for. (If true)

I welcome Marks acknowledgement that ultimately he is responsible for the current predicament and that change is necessary and long term I would love to see a new owner at the club (as long as they have the funds to make it sustainable and have the genuine best interests of the club at heart).


As far as the current regime is concerned I think getting up last year was their one big shot at it and after just falling short they are now a busted flush as a consequence.

To talk of short comings, poor decision making, budgets and balancing the books and wanting out as an owner because of criticism and outside pressures aside from needing a holiday to get away from it all speaks volumes to me.
It didnt work last time as first team manager so what the hell made him think getting rid of King and appointing himself would be the way to go for success this season?

Now I might not know all the facts granted, but I more than anything else would like to ask Mark the reasons behind this.
Why did King have to go?
Explain the reasoning.
Explain why a replacement manager wasnt sourced after he did go?


As a consequence even with a new guy coming in, we are bang in the mire now make no mistake.
We are in a dogfight with a squad no matter how you look at it or want to excuse it are or simply havent been good enough.
A tough job it would be for an experienced guy to come in a change things about with the squad with no budget and inheriting somebody elses under performing players whos confidence is shot to pieces.
How is a young guy going to come in and achieve what needs to be achieved???
A guy who wants to come into the club not for money but for an opportunity to make a name for himself indicates that we arent looking for or going to be able to bag a manager with the required knowledge and experience needed to make the immediate improvement required.........a different world from managing Millwalls under 16s thats for sure. .

Definitely. MG can still come out of this with credibility if a proper manager is appointed and if we get some info on the development. It doesn't have to be super dooper plans and full details just we are exploring this possibility etc and we are at this stage of negotiations etc,

-- Edited by TheGhostOfJodyBrown on Sunday 5th of January 2020 01:37:33 PM

Of that list then only Kinnear and Hill are good enough and available. Day and Pennock are frying bigger fish overseas. Handford has been out of the game for too long and isnt a manager, Daish has been out of the game too long. Quinton managed a club smaller than us. While you want a manager to turn us around you want one who can take you to the next level in the next couple of seasons too,

Did nt Quinton win the play offs with Braintree a couple of years ago?

TheGhostOfJodyBrown wrote:

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If Mark does want to sell then surely the first option is it offer to the supporters at what he paid for it.

-- Edited by TheGhostOfJodyBrown on Sunday 5th of January 2020 12:40:02 PM

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The supporters? Really? It might be feasible if we want to go several steps down the pyramid but I don't see how it would be realistic in National League South. I doubt we'd raise the money to buy the club let alone run it, without a financial backer and if someone was willing to put a substantial amount of money in why wouldn't they just buy the club for themselves?

Also Chris Kinner worked with Loui Faz as coach at Dover , I think that would be the dream combination. We could even get Paul Barnes back as a coach but we need that experienced man as manager.

-- Edited by Chris on Sunday 5th of January 2020 04:38:13 PM

Another I'd like is Steve Lovell but hes just been appointed Ebbsfleet DoF and there are rumours he could become their manager. But if I were him Id rather manage us than the sinking ship of Eurostar FC.

Murray Jones ? I've just had to Google him. No thanks, we need a manager not a youth coach.

-- Edited by Chris on Sunday 5th of January 2020 05:16:11 PM

Not my choice mate I assure you!!!!

I think the next manager of WUFC will be young inexperienced working for minimal wage who Mr. Goldberg thinks he can influence.

I do believe Mr. Goldberg will back new boss with playing budget whatever it is he will not want WUFC to be relegated.

Still 18 games left time for turnaround in fortunes.

I dont believe Mr. Goldberg has any intention of leaving/selling WUFC it wasnt just football why he purchased WUFC he see potential on and off the pitch.

I dont see young Mr. Goldberg being boss yet !

Gary Hill
Chris Kinner
Adrian Pennock

Anyone of them three would be good but knowing Goldberg wouldnt happen

Mark Hammond?

 

-- Edited by Sherpa49 on Sunday 5th of January 2020 08:38:37 PM

-- Edited by Sherpa49 on Sunday 5th of January 2020 08:41:12 PM

Questions for Mark:
1. What is the status of Welling United CIC and how active are the directors?
2. Do you need any support from your community, for which the CIC is set up as an active sports enterprise? If so, what?
3. You keep bringing up the concern of money. As a CIC, who is supporting you in your finance committee? Is there a concern for Companies House reporting for this February? Who is auditing and agreeing your books? Is there anything we, the community can help with?
4. Is there such a thing or an intention for Welling Utd Ltd? If yes, why, what is this for?
5. What is your CIC board's (not you individually) vision and main objectives for the next few years for Welling United CIC? How can we, the community be involved in shaping this?
6. As a CIC, do you have a business plan, can you share it with us, and again, what areas can we, the community, help to support?
7. As one of the largest, most prominent CIC's for sport in the Borough, what support are you requesting from LBofBexley, and is there anything we can help and support with in this area?

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zero chance...it has to be a cheap option

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 Barry Ashby and Dean Frost but again knowing Goldberg still wouldnt happen it has to be someone to do with Bromley!