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I see people running the club haven't lost their touch in this period of absence.



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Not 100% sure what Alan has done wrong?

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Well maybe that's part of the problem...

We're a long time established national league club not a mickey mouse kent league team, although you could often be mistaken. 

Business should be kept private not banded about on twitter for any tom, dick or harry.



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Mate, who put these people in positions at the club? You reap what you sow. Get amateurs in and look amateur or make **** ups

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So vice chairman who made all / most? of these appointments has quit.
Is Gary L still around as operations manager or has he left now hes gone to work in a corner shop? If hes gone or going who will replace him?
Secretary applied for a first team manager job elsewhere and is hawking the club on social media.
Is that Josh fella still the commercial manager or is he about the tenth one to come and go in the last 4 years?
Hang on sorry, the fella from the micro pub took over from him and now hes gone too,


Get some structure and professionalism in the club ffs. Is it any wonder its a shambles and its all so predictable.

Get Piggy back and you'll be saving 2 grand a month too,

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It is about time that somebody came forward and said what is actually happening to the Club. We hear that no money is available, people have left their posts and the majority shareholder is pushing for some sort of redevelopment at PVR. The only bright spot on the horizon appears to be that Brad Quinton and his team are still around and taking training. What this means I do not know but, hopefully, it is a positive sign. At the Clubs virtual presentation night we heard from the Chairman in less than positive terms, I assume he reads this forum, with this in mind, can we have an update please, or is that asking too much?

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I went down the ground today to see the training session and we have some really useful players who are getting sharper. I do agree the club need to communicate what is happening in terms of structure for the season ahead and a general update.

WUSA will be helping to launch a crowdfunder scheme next week to help support Brad's budget, the playing budget will be reduced this season with the reality of Covid-19 causing mayhem not just with health of the nation but also the live events industry, which of course we sit in that is causing a nightmare for football clubs.

I can only give a WUSA perspective but going down the ground I am hugely enthused by what Brad is doing and hopefully we can help support him



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I agree in helping Brad, but as that would mean getting the current regime out of a mess that they put themselves in long before the covid situation i think anyone would be stupid to put money into a crowdfunder until something changes. Once again we heard about development what 4/5weeks ago and once again radio silence since. Like every time it's just a delay tactic to keep the fans 'happy'.Apparently there's new dugouts being built at the moment, I mean is that really a necessity right now?

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I understand changes to the dug out arrangements to allow for "social distancing" are part of the new "Post Covid" as instructed by the FA.  Other requirements include the need for each team to either use separate or delayed entry to the pitch - in that regard we have an advantage over most grounds with the E&B changing rooms available.



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Matt The Hat wrote:

I went down the ground today to see the training session and we have some really useful players who are getting sharper. I do agree the club need to communicate what is happening in terms of structure for the season ahead and a general update.

WUSA will be helping to launch a crowdfunder scheme next week to help support Brad's budget, the playing budget will be reduced this season with the reality of Covid-19 causing mayhem not just with health of the nation but also the live events industry, which of course we sit in that is causing a nightmare for football clubs.

I can only give a WUSA perspective but going down the ground I am hugely enthused by what Brad is doing and hopefully we can help support him


 I will certainly try to help out with any crowd fund scheme. I think we are lucky to have BQ and we should try to help him as best we can. 



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The club will be all the poorer for losing Chris Roots.

It remains to be seen how successful Robert Littlefield will be as the person in charge of a football club.



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kentishbelle wrote:

The club will be all the poorer for losing Chris Roots.

It remains to be seen how successful Robert Littlefield will be as the person in charge of a football club.


 

I have googled this man and he is the club accountant. 

So it is fair to say he will be very good at managing the business, especially during lockdown when there is no revenue coming in. Any potential CVA is a difficult peice of accounting to handle, and contracts on the ground, the lease of the ground and selling parts of that to other people really should be in the hands of an experienced accountant, who knows how a football club is run. He might have what it takes.

 

 



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Hmm, Spencer Day and Littlefield anyone back in the day?

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Maybe Tom should have a go as commercial manager, asking for a % of what revenue you get for the club. Your no longer filming Welling Town. Why not give it a crack?

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Mr littlefield has been associated with the Club for many years, he should therefore know the Club inside out. However, to hand all Club decisions over to the Clubs accountant must mean that the Chairman has lost control (or interest) in the Clubs finances and every move from now on will be decided by Mr Littlefield and the financial effect. This may be a good thing, however, It cannot be far from the truth to accept that the current majority shareholder wants to get as much as possible from the Club (as any businessman would) before moving on. It appears he does not want to relinquish the lease and this can only be because he sees a payday when any development comes to fruition. I would in a small way, as would many others always do, give as much as we can for the Club but can understand that Mr Goldberg may not be in a position to fund the Club as he has in the past, however, he has had his fun and in the absence of sponsors or anything to contrary, one must assume that we are open to either potential financial disaster or 'somebody' taking over who can at least give us a chance of some sort of future. All I have said may be conjecture and , as I have suggested in the past, some sort of STATEMENT FROM THE CLUB may set the situation straight. However, we are all in difficult times and the welfare of Welling United must be paramount, we are not alone at this time in history let's hope we can, at least, see the next few months out.

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RonF wrote:

Mr littlefield has been associated with the Club for many years, he should therefore know the Club inside out. However, to hand all Club decisions over to the Clubs accountant must mean that the Chairman has lost control (or interest) in the Clubs finances and every move from now on will be decided by Mr Littlefield and the financial effect. This may be a good thing, however, It cannot be far from the truth to accept that the current majority shareholder wants to get as much as possible from the Club (as any businessman would) before moving on. It appears he does not want to relinquish the lease and this can only be because he sees a payday when any development comes to fruition. I would in a small way, as would many others always do, give as much as we can for the Club but can understand that Mr Goldberg may not be in a position to fund the Club as he has in the past, however, he has had his fun and in the absence of sponsors or anything to contrary, one must assume that we are open to either potential financial disaster or 'somebody' taking over who can at least give us a chance of some sort of future. All I have said may be conjecture and , as I have suggested in the past, some sort of STATEMENT FROM THE CLUB may set the situation straight. However, we are all in difficult times and the welfare of Welling United must be paramount, we are not alone at this time in history let's hope we can, at least, see the next few months out.


 

Sounds very worrying if the owner has stepped away, and removed any budget.

Can this mean that anyone who runs the football club, will simply do so in order to pay the owner a rent for the facilities (bar, car park, burger bars and so on) ?
Or would it be the case that the owner will let someone else run it and take a cut, so that everyone is really just working for him?

Thankfully there is an accountant in charge.



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So Chris Roots left, Bradley has gone to beckenham and now someone suggests MG has walked away?

Is anyone confused?

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Looks like all the clubs eggs are in the Fiore basket, if he can get a deal with MG for the club, i don't see many other options out there. Club looks deep in the brown stuff and nobody has a clue whats going on.

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TheGhostOfJodyBrown wrote:

So Chris Roots left, Bradley has gone to beckenham and now someone suggests MG has walked away?

Is anyone confused?


 Brad G has not gone to Beckenham. 

I think you need to review your source(s)....



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Only saying what was posted on here. No retained list from club. Hopefully some player news will be published in the week as friendlies will be played in two weeks.

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Whilst there appear to have been some amendments to the legislation around knowingly trading when insolvent due to the whole COViD situation I don't believe it has been removed entirely.

Therefore, if we have no obvious income and MG does not wish to contribute his own funds (and I don't quite know how that sits with the legislation), I don't know how we can pay players or things like insurance without being in knowing violation.

I certainly don't see how we can start a season in that position (or indeed, perhaps, several other clubs).

 



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Dont the clubs assets help to balance the books? So you can trade on a day to day basis at a loss providing the business has assets to cover any shortfall?

Does the club have any assets or are they all held by MG on a personal basis?



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Dont the clubs assets help to balance the books? So you can trade on a day to day basis at a loss providing the business has assets to cover any shortfall?

Does the club have any assets or are they all held by MG on a personal basis?


 You are presuming that we haven't already reached or are close to reaching the point where that is insufficient.

If you were being run by the accountant you could at least attempt to claim you had acted with due probity and therefore limit personal come back (assuming the accountant is of good standing).

 



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Mr littlefield has been associated with the Club for many years, he should therefore know the Club inside out. However, to hand all Club decisions over to the Clubs accountant must mean that the Chairman has lost control (or interest) in the Clubs finances and every move from now on will be decided by Mr Littlefield and the financial effect. This may be a good thing, however, It cannot be far from the truth to accept that the current majority shareholder wants to get as much as possible from the Club (as any businessman would) before moving on. It appears he does not want to relinquish the lease and this can only be because he sees a payday when any development comes to fruition. I would in a small way, as would many others always do, give as much as we can for the Club but can understand that Mr Goldberg may not be in a position to fund the Club as he has in the past, however, he has had his fun and in the absence of sponsors or anything to contrary, one must assume that we are open to either potential financial disaster or 'somebody' taking over who can at least give us a chance of some sort of future. All I have said may be conjecture and , as I have suggested in the past, some sort of STATEMENT FROM THE CLUB may set the situation straight. However, we are all in difficult times and the welfare of Welling United must be paramount, we are not alone at this time in history let's hope we can, at least, see the next few months out.


 MG is in Marbella so a statement may have to wait.



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Oh ****, when this last happened Steve King left

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