Decent enough game for a 0-0 and we looked much better at the back. Created some good chances, few penalty shouts, their keeper pulled off some good saves and what an improvement on the Trophy game.
Dont celebrate a 0-0 draw when we missed a sack load of chances and we are down the bottom..
With the government covering the budget you'd expect at least a decent striker to have been signed whos proven at this level. Taylor must have had 5 chances today but you'll get that taking gambles on cheaper lower level players.
Not sure how we are being run this year but it looks like theres no money being brought in commercially or put in by the owner or the person in charge and we are just spending the government's money on ryman players.
Need to start scoring to have a chance of staying up but thankfully the season will be scrapped soon and bail us out.
Recruitment on players has been absymal since MG became manager again the last time. The only saving grace is at least this season they are signing plausible players from a lower level rather than any old crap. Still lacking though and we need to sign players who are proven at least in mid table at this level or we are going to struggle when we cant score.
The clubs best ever manager is down the road twiddling his thumbs and if we lose the next match id bring him in temperorarily as at least he will organise us and bring in a couple of decent players who can score and give us a chance to win games.
At least we never conceded from a set peice.
Its depressing how far we have fallen that a 0-0 draw is a positive this season and Covid is the same for every club in this division so its no excuse.
-- Edited by TheGhostOfJodyBrown on Saturday 9th of January 2021 05:14:34 PM
Dont celebrate a 0-0 draw when we missed a sack load of chances and we are down the bottom..
With the government covering the budget you'd expect at least a decent striker to have been signed whos proven at this level. Taylor must have had 5 chances today but you'll get that taking gambles on cheaper lower level players.
Not sure how we are being run this year but it looks like theres no money being brought in commercially or put in by the owner or the person in charge and we are just spending the government's money on ryman players.
Need to start scoring to have a chance of staying up but thankfully the season will be scrapped soon and bail us out.
Recruitment on players has been absymal since MG became manager again the last time. The only saving grace is at least this season they are signing plausible players from a lower level rather than any old crap. Still lacking though and we need to sign players who are proven at least in mid table at this level or we are going to struggle when we cant score.
The clubs best ever manager is down the road twiddling his thumbs and if we lose the next match id bring him in temperorarily as at least he will organise us and bring in a couple of decent players who can score and give us a chance to win games.
At least we never conceded from a set peice.
Its depressing how far we have fallen that a 0-0 draw is a positive this season and Covid is the same for every club in this division so its no excuse.
-- Edited by TheGhostOfJodyBrown on Saturday 9th of January 2021 05:14:34 PM
Well, I enjoyed the game. Both sides had good chances, we had the penalty shouts, but neither was clear cut. As the commentator commented, the ref wasnt giving Welling any benefit of the doubt. To draw, away from home, against a side challenging for a playoff spot, whilst we are languishing near the bottom is a credible achievement. Yes we could / should have won, but considering all the changes in personnel I think they did well.
From the Oxford City report of the match on their website (up already!) some of our chances were good efforts well saved with a much improved showing at the back.
Utterly depressing to be bottom but hopefully we can improve.
Not reading too much into the league position, and agreed that the stop start schedule has been harsh on us.
This season is a wash out. If it was that we were "saving" money, then that'd be something to celebrate (spend nothing, saved loads, finished second bottom in a wash out season - winner!).
But the club is in a coma financially.
So abandoned leagues, football and performances is all well and good, cos this won't end well so long as MG has ANY hold on the club.
Yeah games in hand but do need some wins...3 or 4 on the bounce and we will get up the table a bit
A somewhat pointless statement. A football team always needs/wants wins. And a football team winning 3-4 on the bounce will always move up the table a bit, unless they already sit top.
A 0-0 draw away to Oxford City, on it's own, is a good away point. Were we sitting in a stable position, I am sure it would be a positive afternoon. There are a lot of comments here, and on twitter, about things being much better, but as no fans were allowed, I struggle to see how people can be so sure. That said, it does appear even from Oxford's comments, we maybe shaded it, which is good news. Things look better now, than yesterday.
I have great faith in BQ. He is a good man, coach, and manager. We do need to turn a corner. The past is the past, the future looks better, but will be tough with a million games in such a short period of time.
What we must do is be positive. What we must not do is be blinkered, or naive. When we are good, enjoy. When we are not, on or off field, be honest about it. Welling fan or not, burying your head in the sand, is foolish.
It is still concerning that the illustrious owner is away, silent, and has provided no updates to the fans for over 9 months, despite considerable reason for him to have opened his mouth. I wonder why. Would love to hear his thoughts. These are unusual times. All the more reason for the man at the helm to speak out.
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Wanting people that care about Welling United running it, and not clowns.
Not pointless at all....it is the state we are in....we haven't lost as many as others....have games in hand...just need to use them well....plus vast majority away from home
The fact MG hasnt been seen or heard of I take as a positive...I tend to trust what Matt, Gary and others say is the situation at the club anyway
Not pointless at all....it is the state we are in....we haven't lost as many as others....have games in hand...just need to use them well....plus vast majority away from home
The fact MG hasnt been seen or heard of I take as a positive...I tend to trust what Matt, Gary and others say is the situation at the club anyway
Not pointless at all....it is the state we are in....we haven't lost as many as others....have games in hand...just need to use them well....plus vast majority away from home
The fact MG hasnt been seen or heard of I take as a positive...I tend to trust what Matt, Gary and others say is the situation at the club anyway
Thought the pubs were closed?
MG owns the lease to the ground AND the club.
That a positive
The fact that Erith and Belvedere have thus far shown during their tenure no inclination to be screwed over does provide some form of a backstop even if we, per se, have none.
We can only assume MG has nothing to to with the club either in decisions or finances. He does however own the club and will benefit from any property deals etc and he is at liberty to take back control, sell it or make any football decisions.
All we have been told is that Fiore is in charge day to day.
With no further information then we can only assume Fiore is steering the ship in every way football wise.
To blame MG for this season is crass if he has absolutely nothing to do with the football side and is just sitting on a potential golden goose. The only blame you can aim at MG is who he put in charge running the show as its not going well is it?
I am not getting the party poppers out after a 0-0 draw which sent us bottom of the league. I have no faith in the manager (or the person running the football side of things , or the owner) as the signings are poor and lower league, the coaching has been abysmal with so many **** goals conceded, we lost in the FA Cup to a pub team without a fight, we lost at home in the Trophy in a **** performance. We are now bottom of the league. We havent had one semi decent striker this season and the defence has been a shambles. We have no spine of a team and thats just inexecusable and clueless. I cannot see a single thing to be positive about or a reason to have faith? We haven't been unlucky, we have been poor.
Our best and most realistic chance of staying up unless changes in personel, management and the budget is that the season gets called off.
People talking a good game pulling the strings or managing the team or saying the right things and appearing a jolly nice chap ain't cutting the mustard.
-- Edited by TheGhostOfJodyBrown on Sunday 10th of January 2021 03:35:03 PM
Not pointless at all....it is the state we are in....we haven't lost as many as others....have games in hand...just need to use them well....plus vast majority away from home
The fact MG hasnt been seen or heard of I take as a positive...I tend to trust what Matt, Gary and others say is the situation at the club anyway
Thought the pubs were closed?
MG owns the lease to the ground AND the club.
That a positive
The fact that Erith and Belvedere have thus far shown during their tenure no inclination to be screwed over does provide some form of a backstop even if we, per se, have none.
If you think the Council would find any resistance from the Deres a problem and that would be in someway a barrier to MG exiting with the loot while we are scratching around for a ground for at least the level above... i would have a rethink.
If theres a deal possible and agreed it will happen and the fact he is still bashing away for a deal suggests one is possible.
The club (and lease) isn't worth the 180 grand it was valued at is it? There are probably debts too, If i was Gary i wouldnt pay the numbers that were rumoured in the summer as MGs price to sell and i wouldnt even pay 180k if that included the lease. As long as he (Fiore) can balance the books he will pick it up for next to nothing when MG has enough of playing monopoly.
Maybe thats why the budget is zero on top of the money we are getting? We can only guess as the administration side of the club is known only to a few.
-- Edited by TheGhostOfJodyBrown on Sunday 10th of January 2021 03:45:15 PM
Not pointless at all....it is the state we are in....we haven't lost as many as others....have games in hand...just need to use them well....plus vast majority away from home
The fact MG hasnt been seen or heard of I take as a positive...I tend to trust what Matt, Gary and others say is the situation at the club anyway
Thought the pubs were closed?
MG owns the lease to the ground AND the club.
That a positive
The fact that Erith and Belvedere have thus far shown during their tenure no inclination to be screwed over does provide some form of a backstop even if we, per se, have none.
If you think the Council would find any resistance from the Deres a problem and that would be in someway a barrier to MG exiting with the loot while we are scratching around for a ground for at least the level above... i would have a rethink.
If theres a deal possible and agreed it will happen and the fact he is still bashing away for a deal suggests one is possible.
The club (and lease) isn't worth the 180 grand it was valued at is it? There are probably debts too, If i was Gary i wouldnt pay the numbers that were rumoured in the summer as MGs price to sell and i wouldnt even pay 180k if that included the lease. As long as he (Fiore) can balance the books he will pick it up for next to nothing when MG has enough of playing monopoly.
Maybe thats why the budget is zero on top of the money we are getting? We can only guess as the administration side of the club is known only to a few.
-- Edited by TheGhostOfJodyBrown on Sunday 10th of January 2021 03:45:15 PM
Except you make a presumption that I don't. I believe there is certain legal provision (admittedly overruled in the case of Belle Vue stadium) that development replacing existing sporting facilities are obliged to give some alternative to that provision in order to obtain the planning permission. Presumably E&B have a legal agreement to have tenure on the facility at Welling. So unless whoever owns E&B decides to take any money and run, either permanently or to another groundshare agreement, there will be alternative provision. Would it be of the standard required for our league? Arguably not the most important consideration if it is using that or ceasing to exist in our case?
Then again, in these uncertain times there is a supposition that the current laws/league structure and requirements will persist, which I would suggest, is not a formality given what is going on below us.
Yeah games in hand but do need some wins...3 or 4 on the bounce and we will get up the table a bit
A somewhat pointless statement. A football team always needs/wants wins. And a football team winning 3-4 on the bounce will always move up the table a bit, unless they already sit top.
A 0-0 draw away to Oxford City, on it's own, is a good away point. Were we sitting in a stable position, I am sure it would be a positive afternoon. There are a lot of comments here, and on twitter, about things being much better, but as no fans were allowed, I struggle to see how people can be so sure. That said, it does appear even from Oxford's comments, we maybe shaded it, which is good news. Things look better now, than yesterday.
I have great faith in BQ. He is a good man, coach, and manager. We do need to turn a corner. The past is the past, the future looks better, but will be tough with a million games in such a short period of time.
What we must do is be positive. What we must not do is be blinkered, or naive. When we are good, enjoy. When we are not, on or off field, be honest about it. Welling fan or not, burying your head in the sand, is foolish.
It is still concerning that the illustrious owner is away, silent, and has provided no updates to the fans for over 9 months, despite considerable reason for him to have opened his mouth. I wonder why. Would love to hear his thoughts. These are unusual times. All the more reason for the man at the helm to speak out.
Oxford did have a live video stream Saturday that's how I was sure it was a better performance than the one I witnessed against them (in person unfortunately!) in the Trophy. One game doesn't count for much though and we need to see the improvement continue.
Off the field things also seem better; recent interviews online with Gary Fiore/Matt Mein, improvements around the ground, news of a possible 3G pitch that would help finances and allow our other teams to use PVR. I would like to see an update from MG though on the overall ground plans, even if there wasn't much to report.
Yeah games in hand but do need some wins...3 or 4 on the bounce and we will get up the table a bit
A somewhat pointless statement. A football team always needs/wants wins. And a football team winning 3-4 on the bounce will always move up the table a bit, unless they already sit top.
A 0-0 draw away to Oxford City, on it's own, is a good away point. Were we sitting in a stable position, I am sure it would be a positive afternoon. There are a lot of comments here, and on twitter, about things being much better, but as no fans were allowed, I struggle to see how people can be so sure. That said, it does appear even from Oxford's comments, we maybe shaded it, which is good news. Things look better now, than yesterday.
I have great faith in BQ. He is a good man, coach, and manager. We do need to turn a corner. The past is the past, the future looks better, but will be tough with a million games in such a short period of time.
What we must do is be positive. What we must not do is be blinkered, or naive. When we are good, enjoy. When we are not, on or off field, be honest about it. Welling fan or not, burying your head in the sand, is foolish.
It is still concerning that the illustrious owner is away, silent, and has provided no updates to the fans for over 9 months, despite considerable reason for him to have opened his mouth. I wonder why. Would love to hear his thoughts. These are unusual times. All the more reason for the man at the helm to speak out.
Oxford did have a live video stream Saturday that's how I was sure it was a better performance than the one I witnessed against them (in person unfortunately!) in the Trophy. One game doesn't count for much though and we need to see the improvement continue.
Off the field things also seem better; recent interviews online with Gary Fiore/Matt Mein, improvements around the ground, news of a possible 3G pitch that would help finances and allow our other teams to use PVR. I would like to see an update from MG though on the overall ground plans, even if there wasn't much to report.
OMFG what am i reading.... "a possible 3G pitch ".... like the possible new ground, possible flats, possible "journey MG is taking us on"?
Any work done at PVR usually fall into the category of legal requirement, or league requirement or emergency and anything in between just doesn't happen.
Yeah games in hand but do need some wins...3 or 4 on the bounce and we will get up the table a bit
A somewhat pointless statement. A football team always needs/wants wins. And a football team winning 3-4 on the bounce will always move up the table a bit, unless they already sit top.
A 0-0 draw away to Oxford City, on it's own, is a good away point. Were we sitting in a stable position, I am sure it would be a positive afternoon. There are a lot of comments here, and on twitter, about things being much better, but as no fans were allowed, I struggle to see how people can be so sure. That said, it does appear even from Oxford's comments, we maybe shaded it, which is good news. Things look better now, than yesterday.
I have great faith in BQ. He is a good man, coach, and manager. We do need to turn a corner. The past is the past, the future looks better, but will be tough with a million games in such a short period of time.
What we must do is be positive. What we must not do is be blinkered, or naive. When we are good, enjoy. When we are not, on or off field, be honest about it. Welling fan or not, burying your head in the sand, is foolish.
It is still concerning that the illustrious owner is away, silent, and has provided no updates to the fans for over 9 months, despite considerable reason for him to have opened his mouth. I wonder why. Would love to hear his thoughts. These are unusual times. All the more reason for the man at the helm to speak out.
Oxford did have a live video stream Saturday that's how I was sure it was a better performance than the one I witnessed against them (in person unfortunately!) in the Trophy. One game doesn't count for much though and we need to see the improvement continue.
Off the field things also seem better; recent interviews online with Gary Fiore/Matt Mein, improvements around the ground, news of a possible 3G pitch that would help finances and allow our other teams to use PVR. I would like to see an update from MG though on the overall ground plans, even if there wasn't much to report.
OMFG what am i reading.... "a possible 3G pitch ".... like the possible new ground, possible flats, possible "journey MG is taking us on"?
Any work done at PVR usually fall into the category of legal requirement, or league requirement or emergency and anything in between just doesn't happen.
I'm not referring to bigger plans by MG (complete new stadium, flats etc.) but the 3G pitch is more of a possibility judging by the interviews before Christmas especially considering we've spoken to the London FA, council, Football Foundation and Sport England.
The clubs best ever manager is down the road twiddling his thumbs and if we lose the next match id bring him in temperorarily as at least he will organise us and bring in a couple of decent players who can score and give us a chance to win games.
-- Edited by TheGhostOfJodyBrown on Saturday 9th of January 2021 05:14:34 PM
Assume you're referring to Jamie Day, I thought he was still in charge of the Bangladesh national team?
The clubs best ever manager is down the road twiddling his thumbs and if we lose the next match id bring him in temperorarily as at least he will organise us and bring in a couple of decent players who can score and give us a chance to win games.
-- Edited by TheGhostOfJodyBrown on Saturday 9th of January 2021 05:14:34 PM
Assume you're referring to Jamie Day, I thought he was still in charge of the Bangladesh national team?
