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I have (hopefully) copied a link to Wokings website that I followed from national forum which is a diagram trying to explain what will or wont happen

https://www.wokingfc.co.uk/img/n/NL%20Resolutions.jpg

 

There is another post on National Forum saying Concord are refusing to play Saturday but I cannot find any other verification of this.



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The league couldn't have made this more difficult to read, so much for plain English. Anyway;

1. Clubs in all three leagues vote to end the season (needs 75% in favour) but only 8 votes from N/S?

2. If it gets 75% in favour, all clubs in the national league vote to scrap their season (needs 50%) and all in the north and south also vote to scrap theirs (needs 50%). 

3. If it doesn't get the 75% voting to scrap it, then try again but with 50% in favour

 

I suppose the limited votes from N&S is so that you don't get a situation where N&S vote to continue but the NL doesn't?

Whatever way you want the season to go only 4 votes from our league out of 27 will go towards the 1st decision (i think!)

The resolutions are:

Resolution 1

SPECIAL RESOLUTION (ALL CLUBS)

That Resolution 2 about whether to end the 2020/21 Playing Season of The National League (Step 1) be taken only by Clubs in the National League and that Resolution 3 about whether to end the 2020/21 Playing Season of the National League North and the National League South (Step 2) be taken only by Clubs that play in the National League North or the National League South with votes cast for Resolution 3 being counted on a one member, one vote basis for National League North and National League South Clubs.

Resolution 2

ORDINARY RESOLUTION  - FOR NATIONAL LEAGUE CLUBS (STEP 1) ONLY

That, conditional upon Resolution 1 being passed, the 2020/21 Playing Season of the National League (Step 1) shall immediately end on the date this Resolution 2 is passed and be declared null and void and subject to the approval of The Football Association, those Regulations that provide for promotion and relegation to and from Step 1 be suspended for the 2020/21 Playing Season.

Resolution 3

ORDINARY RESOLUTION - FOR NATIONAL LEAGUE NORTH AND NATIONAL LEAGUE SOUTH CLUBS (STEP 2) ONLY

That, conditional upon Resolution 1 being passed, the 2020/21 Playing Season of the National League North and the National League South (Step 2) shall immediately end on the date this Resolution 3 is passed and be declared null and void and subject to the approval of The Football Association those Regulations that provide for promotion and relegation to and from Step 2 be suspended for the 2020/21 Playing Season.

Resolution 4

ORDINARY RESOLUTION (ALL CLUBS)

That conditional upon Resolution 1 not being passed, the 2020/21 Playing Seasons of The National League (Step 1) and The National League North and The National League South (Step 2) shall immediately end on the date this Resolution 4 is passed and be declared null and void and subject to the approval of The Football Association, those Regulations that provide for promotion to and relegation from Step 1 and Step 2 be suspended for the 2020/21 Playing Season.



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Thanks Gary for taking the time to produce the information about the various options.

I believe I read somewhere that clubs have 28 days to make their decision? Hardly a speedy outcome to the problem!



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I believe I read somewhere that clubs have 28 days to make their decision? Hardly a speedy outcome to the problem!


 But it doesn't say what's supposed to happen in the meantime. We have seven games in that period, two that would require coach travel for the team. Would there be any point if the season was then to be called null and void? 



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28 days? Thought the season was only suspended to this Saturday?

Good job there are no brewery taps open at present

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28 days? Thought the season was only suspended to this Saturday?

Good job there are no brewery taps open at present


 Yes we are due to resume Saturday but the vote is completed in 28 days time. So we will have to play until the outcome is known. Clubs will be playing without knowing if it is worth it or not and racking up wages, electric bills etc.



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The Concord Chairman has written to the League and told them....

"I can confirm that there are many clubs within the competition that just do not have the funds to continue. I have personally written to the league confirming we will not be starting this Saturday. They need to suspend until clubs have a better understanding of what is on offer!"

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Also, Concord risking the wrath of the league posting things like that.



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Also, Concord risking the wrath of the league posting things like that.


 Its ok, if anyone says anything about him or has a different opinion he'll just block them on twitter.



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I believe Concord Rangers have now advised the League that they will start again on Tuesday 9th February.  They state that, for reasons of "player safety", they will not fulfil the game at Hemel this coming Saturday.



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Billericay have put out a statement that tomorrow they will be playing their 5 non contract players plus their under 23s whilst keeping their contract players on furlough.

Kettering Town are not going to participate in future matches until the situation is resolved.

Now Bath have joined in by saying not playing tomorrow or foreseeable future.



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Squarevanmanthesecond wrote:

Billericay have put out a statement that tomorrow they will be playing their 5 non contract players plus their under 23s whilst keeping their contract players on furlough.

Kettering Town are not going to participate in future matches until the situation is resolved.


 Neither of which I can find reported on the National League site several days after the announcements.

Is this viewed as inconvenient fact that clubs will not bankrupt themselves to provide the League time to come up with another fudge? Some clubs now clearly believe that, given there has been no change in the ways they are allowed to make money, rightly or wrongly they were led into the season under the false pretence that grants and not loans would still be forthcoming.

To any team wary of sanctions, I would have thought that it is obvious that you need to exist in order to be sanctioned. Some have obviously considered this to be a stance worth taking.

If the League are trying to punt a difficult decision, it will eventually get made for them by 100 smaller decisions. It will become as simple as find the money in grants or finish the season for any meaningful purpose. It will just be how long and how much wasted money for other clubs that keep playing.

And best of luck starting any future season unless the regime is stated in black and white beforehand...



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What a ****ing mess!



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Telling it how it is and thank him for cutting through the PR and BS...

 

https://southportfc.net/liam-watson-post-match/

 

 



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Certainly sums it all up. Anyone who wonders whats been happening, is happening and what might happen only needs to listen to that interview. Interesting he mentions sanctions. 



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http://www.doverathletic.com/news/chairman-resigns-from-national-league-board/

Dover chairman Parmenter has resigned from leagues board.



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GaryH wrote:

Certainly sums it all up. Anyone who wonders whats been happening, is happening and what might happen only needs to listen to that interview. Interesting he mentions sanctions. 


 The one strange comment was when he said that they won't be going to 'Bracchhley' because of safety yet the played yesterday. If he'd said that they wouldn't be going because of the cost of the coach that would have been more consistent with everything else that he had said.



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Danson Mark wrote:
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Certainly sums it all up. Anyone who wonders whats been happening, is happening and what might happen only needs to listen to that interview. Interesting he mentions sanctions. 


 The one strange comment was when he said that they won't be going to 'Bracchhley' because of safety yet the played yesterday. If he'd said that they wouldn't be going because of the cost of the coach that would have been more consistent with everything else that he had said.


 Given the myriad of other strange comment or no comment going around, I'll allow him one in about 8 minutes of being absolutely on point.



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Wings1963 wrote:

Also, Concord risking the wrath of the league posting things like that.


 Its ok, if anyone says anything about him or has a different opinion he'll just block them on twitter.


 Hes a Wassive Manker, Hope they go bust Essex league side in Essex league ground punching above weight.



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One of the journalists has put a list up of clubs that have publically stated how they have voted.

Null and Void has 16 votes with play on having 11 votes. There's 16 votes left and only 6 more null and voids would see the season cancelled. With the current weather and potential of other covid outbreaks, some teams will have to play 3 or 4 more games a week should the season continue.

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Polo wrote:

One of the journalists has put a list up of clubs that have publically stated how they have voted.

Null and Void has 16 votes with play on having 11 votes. There's 16 votes left and only 6 more null and voids would see the season cancelled. With the current weather and potential of other covid outbreaks, some teams will have to play 3 or 4 more games a week should the season continue.


Nice one Polo. 

In fairness to all involved, there was a real effort to see the season happen....and to have the league charactorised as Elite was excellent, but let's not kid ourselves any longer.... the season either ends now, or is curtailed by half the remaining matches....or some other play off scenario.

If Ebbsfleet can be relegated by 0000.1 whatever it was, then anything is possible



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Absolute lunacy to have even continued the season to this point. We've played 12 league games approaching mid-February - just the 28 to go then. More postponements due to COVID no doubt, not to mention the weather. Calling sport at this level 'elite' is an absolute nonsense - teams playing in front of a couple of hundred people, and expecting volunteers to keep clubs afloat. The Premier League may long since have reduced gate receipts to a fraction of club's earnings these days and as long as BT, Sky, and Amazon keep wedging them up, they'll keep paying and playing. To expect teams at this level to complete a season, when barely anyone under 70 has been vaccinated and when infections were at 60,000 per day was nonsensical...........the league should have been stopped weeks ago

My only hope is that clubs survive it - well apart, from the few I hate that can well and truly go f+++ themselves !

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Just been reading on South Forum league has started to charge clubs in both North and South for not fulfilling fixtures. Absolute madness in my opinion but why would the league want my opinionno



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Well, here's Dulwich's charge sheet.

Not that the NL care about 'our opinion'Photo.jpg but we ultimately are the fans who pay for their existence.



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So, as presumably Chippenham Town had advised the league of their unwillingness to play this Saturday, will we get awarded the 3 points?



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Only way we will get 3 points at the moment!

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https://www.isthmian.co.uk/fa-national-league-system-update-65117

This is a link to lower leagues who are waiting for Boris to make a proclamation on 22nd.



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They are entitled to plead just cause. I would suggest that not breaking the law by trading whilst knowingly insolvent is just cause unless the League wish to be seen to be advocating breaking the law. If they do, they should be advocating for spectator attendance as well.

So if Chippenham and any other club in this position say you can do what you like but we aren't paying and we aren't playing you are left with expulsion. In the current environment, how would you decide who replaces them... or does no one... in which case the League have an issue next season.

If they haven't realised it, the League are in a similar position to Universities once they started charging tuition fees. If 10 out of 100 fail it is the individual student's problem, if 60 out of 100 fail it is the Universities problem because no one wants to do the course the next year (and they get no money).

I'm presuming the clubs have considered any future sanctions and are unlikely to blink so we'll find out soon enough. We'll certainly find out where the balls are in these three Leagues. (PVR? maybe not so much...)



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https://mobile.twitter.com/Ollie_Bayliss/status/1360241837563330562/photo/1

if this hyperlink works it is the leagues response.

 

It works but once you click on Bayliss twitter you need to click on the actual league post which is in it. (clarification for people not used to twitter)



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Something from Maidstone Utd 

http://www.maidstoneunited.co.uk/2021/02/statement-from-maidstone-united/



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