now 2 

3 penalty Im not a happy bunny

MarkX wrote:

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FFS.....TIME FOR A CHANGE!

Pathetic.....

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 What part do you change? The manager being given players to work with by the chairman and no budget?

The chairman who has run the club into the ground? 

Or both? 

I hate going back to this, I've been to games recently and I still do not understand why so many are still sitting on there hands letting Goldberg get away with this, the club is dying, he put us there, yet nobody says a thing other than sack the manager and the players are ####. 

Everyone is responsible for where we are now and letting the club be run how it has been, all because we were promised a new pitch and stand 5 years ago.

 

So....how do you change an owner?

Who doesnt want to be changed

It really hurts to hear what St Albans City think of our "YOUNG PLAYERS"

Jamison wrote:

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MarkX wrote:

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FFS.....TIME FOR A CHANGE!

Pathetic.....

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 What part do you change? The manager being given players to work with by the chairman and no budget?

The chairman who has run the club into the ground? 

Or both? 

I hate going back to this, I've been to games recently and I still do not understand why so many are still sitting on there hands letting Goldberg get away with this, the club is dying, he put us there, yet nobody says a thing other than sack the manager and the players are ####. 

Everyone is responsible for where we are now and letting the club be run how it has been, all because we were promised a new pitch and stand 5 years ago.

 

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 100%

 

Keeps selling a dream. More people need to seriously consider where we were to where we are now. Some people are too worried about voicing a different opinion to the narrative 

4

It should be about 7 or 8 according to the commentary.

I wouldn't say 'poor steve' he's partly responsible, the training situation is not acceptable and he should of known better.

5 Im going home see you monday

-- Edited by Squarevanmanthesecond on Saturday 28th of August 2021 04:49:45 PM

Jamison wrote:

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I wouldn't say 'poor steve' he's partly responsible, the training situation is not acceptable and he should of known better.

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 Agree. It is a number of factors. Him included

I just hope relegation isnt decided on goal difference!

This is the worst start to a season I can remember 

https://youtu.be/DykVJl6wr_4

WellingTown wrote:

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OldOak2 wrote:

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I just hope relegation isnt decided on goal difference!

This is the worst start to a season I can remember 

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 Goal difference only becomes relevant if you are level on points with another side - which we wont be. 

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tjstevo wrote:

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I cant quite believe what i have just witnessed. Another **** performance, game lost after 15 minutes and got no better from there.

Yes there were a few shouts from the terraces but not undeserved.

At the end Kristian Campell came over and apologised to supporters but was then joined by Steve Lovell who proceeded to moan about his budget, call some of his players not good enough (some who were standing behind him & looked less than impressed) then took offence at the comments of a long standing supporter of over 40 years telling him people like you are part of the problem!!

Sorry the man has lost it and must go. We were told at meet the manager that we would be fit and give 100%. We are a long long way short of this.

Being told give us FIVE more weeks to get fit and gel that will see us cut adrift at the bottom and also possible out of the FA cup.

But also as others have said above the problems run a lot deeper and we need a change right at the top as this is where the problem really lies.

Also if Steve Lovell does go than his current assistant is defo not the answer, disappeared to the bench last two weeks with nothing to day for himself whilst allowing Mr Lovell to stand alone pitchside. Actually after the 5th went in the technical area was empty!

Anyway onwards and upwards for monday

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 This. 

He really said give us 5 more weeks to get fit? What a clown, what have they been doing all pre season. Unbelievable. See ya Monday.

Steve Lovell, you are better than this, and I feel sorry for you, but then you did sign up to this and like many before you, should and could have known better. The club is dying from the top, to the bottom, as is a) evident to anyone with eyes and ears, b) expected given previous actions of the esteemed leader.

Id very much prefer that individual were not staying in the game www.stayinginthegame.com/

There are one, a few or many long term supporters that might read the below and think Im being a dick. Id prefer to speak the truth even if it makes me a dick. As Id prefer to be honest than tow the line, and I care enough about the club to throw myself under the bus if needed. The majority of those people I refer to I would consider friends, and whilst we might not always agree on everything football and otherwise, were all good people, and weve all one common love, and Im not afraid to stand up for what I believe in and my club, I just wish others would too. Please.

Im told thats its all gone off after the game. As much as I hate to see this as a supporter, I also love to see it, as its whats needed to get change, and I respect people that speak their mind.

Today,

5-0 and could/should have been 7/8/9-0 against a side that arent even that great.

No radio Wings. Maybe we werent allowed, I dunno, but I dare say it wouldnt have happened anyway, its failed before. The video and highlights as well previously have been dog ****.

**** on the pitch all pre and during season so far. Losing to anyone and everyone.

**** in the dugout, with the manager Im told swearing at fans and calling out players for not being good enough whilst they were standing right behind him. The assistant only in it for a pound note or waiting for someone to get sacked.

Previously told trialists pre-season were not good enough but were keeping them on as we had no-one else. Brilliant. Really good for club rep.

I feel for Lovell. He cant be a mug, hes worked in the football league, but hes handcuffed, and now he is, hes calling out players and supporters which is not the solution. He must be furious.

Interesting to note long terms fans having a go back, but when the dust settles, what are you going to do about it? Mouthing off and getting the manager the sack isnt going to solve much if the next manager is controlled by the same people.

Christ, if we showed half as much guts and courage to change the problem, like we did to training once a week, we might get results. But I dare say people wont.

**** in the boardroom with someone that turns up when he feels like it, turns up committed to the dugout and is awful, then disappears, then comes back, then leaves again, then comes back, and when he does, has other coaches and ex-managers openly sitting next to him in the stands - hardly an accident.

**** financially with a crap budget, were told, and going begging to the supporters association one week in to the season to sign a player that doesnt even start games. Embarrassing. Why is the budget so ****?

Ground falling to pieces. Blame the Council, its easy to do, then five minutes later go to them for planning, AGAIN, and wonder why its declined (if were to believe that half-truth). Why arent the Council doing anything. Why are E&B doing more than us? Why is out stadium manager doing nothing to maintain the stadium?

Promises regarding development of the ground from 4/5/6 years ago still not actioned. Literally no progress at all. Nothing. Anyone got evidence to the contrary? At what point, 7, 8, 9, 10, 100, 1000 years does someone say, hang on

One person who comes in to the club who does anything positive, but might ruffle a few feathers, mugged off and then removed, whilst the remover enjoys the benefits of the money the removed has put in. Personally, not a huge fan of Fiore, but he gets things done. Hes got more to brag over than some others at the club. But then bizarrely we let him boast on social media on the club account about players moving onwards and upwards, and then give his staff the opportunity to jump on the bandwagon and say how its all someone elses fault.

Stadium manager on a full-time wage, even close season, when the stadium is falling apart. For some reason in the team photos, full of trialists and players the manager has said are not good enough, and today wearing a shirt and tie? Which he doesnt even do at home?

Secretary on a full-time wage and we then hire a match day secretary. Do we need both? No being the obvious answer.

Social media guy who doesnt attend away games. Or do very good social media if Im honest. And cant spell. And no social media updates when goals go in, subs made, etc.

Radio Comms that doesnt work properly. Do it right, or dont do it.

Ex-owners still owed money. Luckily they are decent enough to care more about the club than their personal pocket. To their credit, and our shame. Id react differently.

Supporters association that turns down supporter membership requests. That manages coach bookings that dont happen. Doesnt organise meetings or zoom meetings, and essentially does little more than book a quiz night once a month.

Club directors, and long-term supporters, that are happy to shout negative comments and must go, Embarrassing, Shambles from the terraces, but do nothing given their position of trust to action any of this. Have the courage of your convictions. Use your £££, and your seat on the board, to demand change. Or at least a meeting.

Club shop that is shut 99% of the week but thinks the best time to open non-matchdays is Monday AM when everyone is at work or school/college.

Catering changes every 12 months. Bar changes every five minutes. Bar more interested in overly loud Ska music or X Factor contestants/owners daughters dream than selling beer and letting people watch football.

No commercial manager, and when we did they were **** x 3 appointments. Who never once entered my High Street premises even though I am a fan of the club.

No plan (thats anything other than a dream), no strategy, no hope, no heart, no desire, no nothing. No evidence of any kind of progression from the hot air we were told 5-6 years back.

No hope. No future. Other than down.

And yet people accept it. Wow. And you call yourselves supporters? Well all the time you want to support ****, failure, lies, false hope, and complete and utter disrespect and contempt, go for it. But in my eyes thats not being a supporter. Thats being a mug. Or a lemming. Or an idiot. Or a nail in a coffin. A supporter to me wants the best for its club. Backs people through thick and thin, but there has to be a limit. Come on.

Does anyone at the club, or supporting of the club, have any balls? I know Jamie Cowley does, so do I, so does Tom Riding, and sorry to mention names gents, but I know you wont suddenly **** yourself given Ive said so, but there are several others that moan behind the scenes, but do nothing in the face of it, despite having the chance to throw some weight around.

Being a supporter is not following the lambs to the slaughter. Have some heart, some pride, and some guts. Stand up for your club, even if that makes you unpopular. If you are just interested in being popular, and towing the line, prepare to die a slow death, as you are already in a coma, and unless someone wakes up, neither will the patient.

There are some very good people at Welling United, and some very loyal supporters, of long standing. There are also many who are and have moved on. And until other see the light, the former will become the norm not the former.

Things could be different. Please make it so.

Gavin is a fine man and a long standing supporter. But unless people start asking serious questions, were not likely to get any answers that mean much.

-- Edited by WellingTown on Saturday 28th of August 2021 06:31:40 PM

Polo wrote:

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Performance woeful. Embarassing. Clueless. Pick and words you like.

However the end of the game was the final straw for me from Lovell.

After a few comments from some non regular supporters, he come over to have a moan. Lovell then claimed that his budget is half of what someone shouted out (it isn't) and then say twice that "The players are not good enough" with 3 or 4 of the players behind him! Absolutely unacceptable to sell a few players out in front of others, take it in the dressing room.

Lovell was putting up a very passionate response until Gavin raised a question and his response was to have a go back at Gavin which was really uncalled for. Gavin has been supporting Welling for over 40 years and I'm sure will be around for many years after Lovell has gone.

I expect Lovell's resignation today, if not his sacking tomorrow.

However, that is not the problem. This club is dying from the top down with the ground crumbling, no commercial manager and no update on what's going on. I have seen numerous plans from MG over the years of what he wants to do with PVR and other stadium sites and to some extent I feel he has been let down on occasions by the council. However what is the plan for Welling United? The club I've been supporting for over 29 years is on its backside. I said to one of the regulars at PVR at the Havant game that this is the most disillusioned I've been in all years of supporting Welling United. I've been home and away for 18 years and I could happily stay at home on some match days and sack the game off.

For those who have comments about those going along with the narrative.....several on this thread. I would love to have a chat with you on Monday to ask what your action plan would be, what you would do. How you would change things? I genuinely offer you a pint on Monday to have a chat about how you would deal with the situation. Let's see if you will take me up on the offer.

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 When people have different opinions to a select few they are chastised for it. Some may call them clueless pricks. But better to voice an opinion then just sleep walk into the mess we are now in

Go on Steve. Who do you refer to? Have you been to every game in the last 3-4-5 years? No, neither have I. But I can see whats happening Even though I havent, so given you;ve been to more than me, I assume youll get there eventually. 

Anyone starting their post moaning at fans who dont attend more than those killing the club is as much a part of the problem as the owner is, as I openly said. The supporters are very good supporters, but when there is a problem, address it. O just blame me, whichever you prefer. But I know which will benefit the club more.

Maybe that is why the fans you criticise like me are not there in the first place. 

Stick your head in the sand though. The trains run again from next weekend.