50p head wrote:

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Cancelled.

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 No it's not, just the title has changed to meet the new manager. 

JR Hartley is 4/5 on. 

Johnny Hartley wrote:

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A fan here has put his finger on the issue by saying Warren has read the room wrong, as all clubs have their individual standards, expectations and anyone joining will take a while to recognise them. A week ago there was a feel good factor after the 1 - 1 draw against top of the table Ebbsfleet when we were down to 9 men, but the 1 - 5 defeat to Dartford couldn't have come at a worse time before the meet the manager. I was telling my son to have a look at the forum as there are so many sudden critical posts, and my son understood exactly what is going on, saying to me "Dam, but to be honest losing 5-1 to your rivals would make the fans MAD" and Warren didn't read the room at all when dismissing this as just another game, and adding completely irrelevant comparisons of bigger matches he has been involved with. What matters most is what is happening now with Welling suddenly repeatedly losing heavily, and fixing it asap, not how other totally unconnected teams did in the past. I don't buy the thing about our players not being up to it as we are non-league, as our opponents are non-league too.

There are some things Warren needs to have a long hard look at himself about, and rather than be a keyboard warrior here I will make the necessary points in person at the meeting, as that will be more constructive.

What I am annoyed about is the best of us is fantastic, at times this season in some of our games we have played the best football I have seen any team play, as invariably if we lose it is not that the other side are better than us, it is just that we keep making stupid mistakes, and not learning quickly enough to cut them out. So already we have the talent, but are not consistently getting it out of the players.

We are a third of the way through the season, a good time to review things, it would be good to have another meet the manager after another third of the season, around February, to assess progress after this meeting, as November and December is a theoretically easy run or games, while January and February looks a really tougher set of fixtures, and hopefully by February the current problems will have been fixed, possibly by going 4 at the back to build a more solid base from the back, and accepting we dont have the right players just now to play 3 at the back.

Despite appearances I like Jamison, as I always like people who say what they think, for better or for worse, so as Jamison can't make the meeting in person a reminder that one of the earlier posts said fans who can't make the meeting can submit questions by e mail. Well done again to all for setting up the meeting, it may not be what was originally expected, and we are still just 2 points off 6th spot, so far from hopeless, but Warren should reverse the recent trends so ideas on how to do that will be handy all round, and help Warren read the room.

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Well said Warren 

Johnny Hartley wrote:

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Cheers Polo, I actually agree, as I was trying to string too many points together without them leading to a clear question. I guess it reflects my having worked remotely for the past couple of years, so not used to talking in groups like that. But I then made concise questions afterwards, as did everyone, and was really pleased we all had the opportunity to do that, as I really like how knowledgeable Welling fans are and I learned a lot, and am sure everyone else did too. Before the meeting it felt Warren hadn't read the room of how Welling fans were thinking, but the meeting showed Warren, the Board and WUSA are in touch, and showed us problems they inherited they are working very hard to overcome to give the fans a successful team.

So a really informative meeting, it showed just how complicated managing a team is at this level, as off the field one has to manage players, fans and board and media expectations, and on the field you have to get results. So the transformation of horizons for the club, which had been bottom two for the past two seasons, and now has been top half of the table for four months this season, is a great turn around, as has been increased attendances everyone in the club is working to deliver.

A formation is only as good as the players playing it, and it feels as though the back 3 formation wasn't working as well as hoped in the last 9 games where we scored once 7 times, and not scored twice, and conceded 18, compared to the first 12 games where we scored 22 and only conceded 12. But Warren suggested he is considering a change of formation, to change unexpected recent results, and the different formation he suggested sounds really promising. And that is football, you try something, hopefully it works, if it doesn't then you try something else.

On my way out of the meeting I thanked Paul for the meeting, and said it was just what we needed. It will be great if we can have another one in the new year, as I was worried before the meeting it would be people just ranting at Warren, but we have fans who have followed the club for 30 years or more, and really understand football, so had great constructive questions about signings, player discipline, captaincy, finances, player turnover and showed the link between the club and the fans. Well done to everyone who attended!

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 JH. I presume you are not aware that meet the manager evenings are regular events. There was nothing new or radical about having one this season. Usually there is only one per season So I very much doubt there will be another in the new year. Love your enthusiasm and your right to have your say on this forum but can you keep it short and to the point. I have to admit I get about two lines into your posts and then lose the will to live. Hence I am missing what you are trying to say. No offence. 

Riverstown wrote:

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Johnny Hartley wrote:

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Cheers Polo, I actually agree, as I was trying to string too many points together without them leading to a clear question. I guess it reflects my having worked remotely for the past couple of years, so not used to talking in groups like that. But I then made concise questions afterwards, as did everyone, and was really pleased we all had the opportunity to do that, as I really like how knowledgeable Welling fans are and I learned a lot, and am sure everyone else did too. Before the meeting it felt Warren hadn't read the room of how Welling fans were thinking, but the meeting showed Warren, the Board and WUSA are in touch, and showed us problems they inherited they are working very hard to overcome to give the fans a successful team.

So a really informative meeting, it showed just how complicated managing a team is at this level, as off the field one has to manage players, fans and board and media expectations, and on the field you have to get results. So the transformation of horizons for the club, which had been bottom two for the past two seasons, and now has been top half of the table for four months this season, is a great turn around, as has been increased attendances everyone in the club is working to deliver.

A formation is only as good as the players playing it, and it feels as though the back 3 formation wasn't working as well as hoped in the last 9 games where we scored once 7 times, and not scored twice, and conceded 18, compared to the first 12 games where we scored 22 and only conceded 12. But Warren suggested he is considering a change of formation, to change unexpected recent results, and the different formation he suggested sounds really promising. And that is football, you try something, hopefully it works, if it doesn't then you try something else.

On my way out of the meeting I thanked Paul for the meeting, and said it was just what we needed. It will be great if we can have another one in the new year, as I was worried before the meeting it would be people just ranting at Warren, but we have fans who have followed the club for 30 years or more, and really understand football, so had great constructive questions about signings, player discipline, captaincy, finances, player turnover and showed the link between the club and the fans. Well done to everyone who attended!

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 Love your enthusiasm and your right to have your say on this forum but can you keep it short and to the point. I have to admit I get about two lines into your posts and then lose the will to live. Hence I am missing what you are trying to say. No offence. 

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 I think this was my point last week...

As for last night im glad a good time was had, only thing id say is MG seemed to turn into Paul Mckenna on similar sort of evenings and we all know how that ended up! 

Let's hope we finally start seeing some words put into action on the pitch.

Jamison wrote:

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Perhaps someone could kindly fill in the blanks of just a couple of notes I've received of the evening.

1) If feeney doesn't sign the players who is?
And given that the signings are not good enough and 2 of them quite frankly embarrassing is there a plan to change this? And was this questioned last night?

2) Why does it matter that he played against and beat England? He was on the pitch 11mins and they were already 1 0 up btw, but anyhow why do these things always matter in every interview etc?
Taylor didn't tell us he managed England every week, past is the past, maybe needs to focus on now.

3) 'He always plays long ball and that won't change' so I've heard. So what was the reaction to this or what does he expect to gain out of this given how its gone so far?

4) If we can't go up because of the ground, which we all know anyway I should think. Why are we spending a load of money on players who probably won't be around next season?
Why not try a build a squad that will be with us a few seasons and then compete properly, as many other teams in our league have done and have squads who have been together 2 or 3 seasons.

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 It usually works better if you ask the questions before the meeting rather than after it..??

One thing from the evening that stood out in my mind and should be at the forefront of all the #FeeneyOut campaigners is what Paul said regarding the club last season, If Warren didnt keep us up last season the club wouldnt have survived to which everyone in the room clapped and cheered. We all know the football fan has a short memory but we would have a lot less to do, worry and moan about on a Saturday and Tuesday if Warren didnt show up with 10 games to go last season. Give the man some time, let him build his squad, let the new board do their bit and see where we are in 2-3 seasons. Not moaning 16 games into a new season when we are only 15 points off last seasons total with 30 games to go. 

There is a lot to look forward to at Welling with the proposed new development. If the new board stick around in 5-6 seasons we will be in League 2. Save this post. 

1) Probably the board like literally ever other club in world football. 

2) It was Matt who brought it up not Warren. 

3) He never said he only plays long ball, he said hes a firm believer in piling balls into the box for his strikers to get on the end of it, classic route 1 football. These boys arent good enough to play mesmerising football on the floor. Yas is the only one and if you watch what he tries to do in the game the other players just arent on his wave length and are 3 steps behind him. 

4) Paul literally said the main priority is getting the stand sorted for the play offs as the football league are onto him as the capacity is too low. Must be 3000 to play in play offs. The club is obviously spending money to build a team of players to have for a few seasons and to be COMPETITIVE in the league we have finished bottom 2 of the last 2 seasons.

Currently 15 points off of last seasons total with 30 games to go. Stop the bitching, get behind the manager and the team and trust the process. 

Chris wrote:

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In all the years there has been a meet the manager they have always had at least one other member of the coaching staff alongside them. I think Jamie Day did a few where he had Ashby, Frost and Beckham. 

We need a good, united, coaching team.

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Paul Parker did one on his own, I think. 

Personally, I would rather that the manager, with or without coaching staff, was without directors. There could then be an individual meet the board meeting, where Paul, Matt, Garry etc, could inform us with what's going on behind the scenes.