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Looking forward to this match, as Hungerford's manager was saying they had lost their top 3 scorers from last season. They have scored 9 in 14 league games so far this season, but only conceded 19, and 11 out of their 14 games they either drew or won or lost by a single goal, so appear to be one of those teams that are solid, but held back by not having a particularly effective attack, so a 1- 0 win or 2 - 1 win for us will be very welcome! But recently they only lost 0 - 1 to Ebbsfleet, and beat 5th placed Bath 3 - 2, so can put in effective performances and will be looking to improve as they learn from their games this season.

We are missing Stefan and James Dunne due to suspension, so interesting to see how their replacements do in this match, but we have a really strong squad, so should be able to handle missing players due to suspension or injury.

We have been inconsistent, great performances against tough teams like Havant and Ebbsfleet, bad ones against easier teams but I am sure Warren is learning a lot about the character and abilities of the individual players as he shapes a team for long term success, and works out who to keep and who to release to support continuous improvement. So hopefully a win and strong response to get us back on track after the car crash against St Albans and Braintree.

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Their goal certainly had a charmed life today. Could of and really should of been at least 3-0. Chi was outstanding today. Warren should definitely start drip feeding Conner Andrews more minutes. I certainly think he deserves half hour or 45 minutes now. That boy is a prospect for sure. We dont want to lose him to somewhere else.

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Much improved and needed second half.  No idea why we were pumping long balls forward (again) in the first half, I can see certain pacy teams who might press us high up the pitch and close us down where short balls might catch us out - but Hungerford at home? Come on.  No offence to them but three centre backs and long ball was way too negative at home in my opinion.  
Good to see we changed second half and Chi and Aransibia were excellent. Cameron Andrews looked good as well when on the pitch. Another red that didnt look too obvious, whereas they should have had a second yellow that was totally obvious.  Cant be bothered to talk about Packman (tired of talking about his performances) but thought he was doing ok until the the two main decisions. Azeez had several chances and at least he was in the positions to have a go despite having to fetch balls out wide in the first half.  He will score with a more balanced style of play. 

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I think today was about getting the W first and foremost. Which we did.

That 1st half performance would have seen us beaten off and out the game against many of the sides in the division, it was an over spill of the Braintree game and not acceptable.

2nd half, we got the ball down on the green stuff and actually played some nice football, amazing what can happen when you dont play long ball all the time isnt it. Maloney who wasnt happy coming off Id rather he or Andrews started Tue over Dunne myself, but sadly cant see that happening. I believe Payne is still suspended so we are short up top again.

It was far from perfect, but perfect wasnt required today. Winning breeds winning, lets hope into Tuesday against, the lot down the Crayford Hill, who are in terrific form.



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In the pre-season games I was struck by Warren constantly having to remind the new players to keep the shape of the team compact. Recently in our spell of losses by three goals I think the midfield had lost the plot and not done the basics that a midfield needs to do, so left a massive gap behind the strikers instead of keeping the compact shape we had started the season with, weren't closing down, weren't pushing up to support the strikers, weren't always dropping back to help defend.

And football isnt that complicated, if you get the basics wrong you don't win matches, get them right and you give yourself a chance to win.

Today the whole team got the basics right, perfect shape from the team, no gaps for the opposition to exploit, no silly mistakes from us leading to goal for the opposition, an attacking creative formation that totally paid off - I will be pleased to watch the highlights just so I can count how many chances we created, as I can't remember us creating as many clear chances (or "moments" as the new stupid buzz word is) in a single game.

The players are still getting used to the unusual expectations on them from new formations, and made some mistakes while getting used to the higher demands, but today showed they are really getting it now.

The thing I have learned from recent results is the importance for a team to respond positively to setbacks. In this match we had things that could have been problematic, missing our second highest scorer and captain though silly suspensions, playing a man down after losing a player to a red card, missing key players though injury before the game, and during it, yet the team showed fab strength of character, and the non regular starting guys and new arrivals coming in like Sam, Yaser, Sid, Cameron and Tom and Kai showed the depth of the squad that other teams are understandably wary of, so a great response to recent setbacks, and everyone has clearly learned from them.

An important win, as it lifts us 3 places to 8th, and a third of the way through the season on target to reach our informal goals of top 10, in sight of play off spots, and then consolidate on this further next season with Warren by hopefully retaining as many as possible to give us the stability we have lacked for many years, now we finally have a budget and can plan ahead.

Well done to everyone involved on and off the pitch!

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Today the whole team got the basics right

Really? The angry faces at half time and the glum faces at full time tell a different story.  I always support this club but the first half performance today was not good enough. Along with a few other games recently. 
I was overjoyed with the point against Ebbsfleet but not going to be content just because we got three today.  We should be better.  For 90 minutes. 



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In the pre-season games I was struck by Warren constantly having to remind the new players to keep the shape of the team compact. Recently in our spell of losses by three goals I think the midfield had lost the plot and not done the basics that a midfield needs to do, so left a massive gap behind the strikers instead of keeping the compact shape we had started the season with, weren't closing down, weren't pushing up to support the strikers, weren't always dropping back to help defend.

And football isnt that complicated, if you get the basics wrong you don't win matches, get them right and you give yourself a chance to win.

Today the whole team got the basics right, perfect shape from the team, no gaps for the opposition to exploit, no silly mistakes from us leading to goal for the opposition, an attacking creative formation that totally paid off - I will be pleased to watch the highlights just so I can count how many chances we created, as I can't remember us creating as many clear chances (or "moments" as the new stupid buzz word is) in a single game.

The players are still getting used to the unusual expectations on them from new formations, and made some mistakes while getting used to the higher demands, but today showed they are really getting it now.

The thing I have learned from recent results is the importance for a team to respond positively to setbacks. In this match we had things that could have been problematic, missing our second highest scorer and captain though silly suspensions, playing a man down after losing a player to a red card, missing key players though injury before the game, and during it, yet the team showed fab strength of character, and the non regular starting guys and new arrivals coming in like Sam, Yaser, Sid, Cameron and Tom and Kai showed the depth of the squad that other teams are understandably wary of, so a great response to recent setbacks, and everyone has clearly learned from them.

An important win, as it lifts us 3 places to 8th, and a third of the way through the season on target to reach our informal goals of top 10, in sight of play off spots, and then consolidate on this further next season with Warren by hopefully retaining as many as possible to give us the stability we have lacked for many years, now we finally have a budget and can plan ahead.

Well done to everyone involved on and off the pitch!


 Well done for your team talk at training btw worked a treat  



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Thought first half was route one hoofing it up the pitch which didn't get us anywhere, second half was better and we probably should have gad at least 3 but a win is a win. Tuesday night we will have to be on it from the kick off as they are flying at the moment. Thought Chi Ezennolim was immense today and deserved the man of the match award

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In the pre-season games I was struck by Warren constantly having to remind the new players to keep the shape of the team compact. Recently in our spell of losses by three goals I think the midfield had lost the plot and not done the basics that a midfield needs to do, so left a massive gap behind the strikers instead of keeping the compact shape we had started the season with, weren't closing down, weren't pushing up to support the strikers, weren't always dropping back to help defend.

And football isnt that complicated, if you get the basics wrong you don't win matches, get them right and you give yourself a chance to win.

Today the whole team got the basics right, perfect shape from the team, no gaps for the opposition to exploit, no silly mistakes from us leading to goal for the opposition, an attacking creative formation that totally paid off - I will be pleased to watch the highlights just so I can count how many chances we created, as I can't remember us creating as many clear chances (or "moments" as the new stupid buzz word is) in a single game.

The players are still getting used to the unusual expectations on them from new formations, and made some mistakes while getting used to the higher demands, but today showed they are really getting it now.

The thing I have learned from recent results is the importance for a team to respond positively to setbacks. In this match we had things that could have been problematic, missing our second highest scorer and captain though silly suspensions, playing a man down after losing a player to a red card, missing key players though injury before the game, and during it, yet the team showed fab strength of character, and the non regular starting guys and new arrivals coming in like Sam, Yaser, Sid, Cameron and Tom and Kai showed the depth of the squad that other teams are understandably wary of, so a great response to recent setbacks, and everyone has clearly learned from them.

An important win, as it lifts us 3 places to 8th, and a third of the way through the season on target to reach our informal goals of top 10, in sight of play off spots, and then consolidate on this further next season with Warren by hopefully retaining as many as possible to give us the stability we have lacked for many years, now we finally have a budget and can plan ahead.

Well done to everyone involved on and off the pitch!


 Football is all about opinions. I am afraid that, in my view, at least half of the sides in this division would have put us to the sword in the first half. We huffed and puffed but apart from a couple of headers (and how we need to improve in this respect) we produced nothing. The second half was much better we actually passed the ball around on the floor and with a better killer instinct could have won by more. It is alright talking about gelling, shape and how Warren has done this and that, but we have to put some consistency together from what we have got, and quick. We were supurb against Ebsfleet, poor against Braintree and just OK today against a side which is currently struggling. Dartford on Tues will probably show how we stand. 



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Johnny Hartley wrote:

In the pre-season games I was struck by Warren constantly having to remind the new players to keep the shape of the team compact. Recently in our spell of losses by three goals I think the midfield had lost the plot and not done the basics that a midfield needs to do, so left a massive gap behind the strikers instead of keeping the compact shape we had started the season with, weren't closing down, weren't pushing up to support the strikers, weren't always dropping back to help defend.

And football isnt that complicated, if you get the basics wrong you don't win matches, get them right and you give yourself a chance to win.

Today the whole team got the basics right, perfect shape from the team, no gaps for the opposition to exploit, no silly mistakes from us leading to goal for the opposition, an attacking creative formation that totally paid off - I will be pleased to watch the highlights just so I can count how many chances we created, as I can't remember us creating as many clear chances (or "moments" as the new stupid buzz word is) in a single game.

The players are still getting used to the unusual expectations on them from new formations, and made some mistakes while getting used to the higher demands, but today showed they are really getting it now.

The thing I have learned from recent results is the importance for a team to respond positively to setbacks. In this match we had things that could have been problematic, missing our second highest scorer and captain though silly suspensions, playing a man down after losing a player to a red card, missing key players though injury before the game, and during it, yet the team showed fab strength of character, and the non regular starting guys and new arrivals coming in like Sam, Yaser, Sid, Cameron and Tom and Kai showed the depth of the squad that other teams are understandably wary of, so a great response to recent setbacks, and everyone has clearly learned from them.

An important win, as it lifts us 3 places to 8th, and a third of the way through the season on target to reach our informal goals of top 10, in sight of play off spots, and then consolidate on this further next season with Warren by hopefully retaining as many as possible to give us the stability we have lacked for many years, now we finally have a budget and can plan ahead.

Well done to everyone involved on and off the pitch!


 For the love of God shut up, some people will probably have a go at me for saying so but I really don't care..unless you are pep Guardiola in disguise just please shut the f##k up 



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It seems that the message that defenders first and foremost need to defend has been taken too literally. Our back 3 4 or 5 first thought is to clear their lines. WALLOP it goes from our 18 yard box to theirs sailing above everyones head and the opposition have the ball back AGAIN. Our players are better than that. They should have the confidence to play it through the lines and build an attack on the oppositions goal. I cant imagine Warren has encouraged them to play the way we did in the first half. When we are backs to the wall we need to be and should be able to transition into attack or clear our lines without panicking as we very often do. Training 3 mornings a week should be enough to sort this out asap.

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 For the love of God shut up, some people will probably have a go at me for saying so but I really don't care..unless you are pep Guardiola in disguise just please shut the f##k up 


 Just be like everyone else, and read what you are interested in, and ignore people you are not interested in. I will take that approach with you for example.



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Johnny Hartley wrote:

In the pre-season games I was struck by Warren constantly having to remind the new players to keep the shape of the team compact. Recently in our spell of losses by three goals I think the midfield had lost the plot and not done the basics that a midfield needs to do, so left a massive gap behind the strikers instead of keeping the compact shape we had started the season with, weren't closing down, weren't pushing up to support the strikers, weren't always dropping back to help defend.

And football isnt that complicated, if you get the basics wrong you don't win matches, get them right and you give yourself a chance to win.

Today the whole team got the basics right, perfect shape from the team, no gaps for the opposition to exploit, no silly mistakes from us leading to goal for the opposition, an attacking creative formation that totally paid off - I will be pleased to watch the highlights just so I can count how many chances we created, as I can't remember us creating as many clear chances (or "moments" as the new stupid buzz word is) in a single game.

The players are still getting used to the unusual expectations on them from new formations, and made some mistakes while getting used to the higher demands, but today showed they are really getting it now.

The thing I have learned from recent results is the importance for a team to respond positively to setbacks. In this match we had things that could have been problematic, missing our second highest scorer and captain though silly suspensions, playing a man down after losing a player to a red card, missing key players though injury before the game, and during it, yet the team showed fab strength of character, and the non regular starting guys and new arrivals coming in like Sam, Yaser, Sid, Cameron and Tom and Kai showed the depth of the squad that other teams are understandably wary of, so a great response to recent setbacks, and everyone has clearly learned from them.

An important win, as it lifts us 3 places to 8th, and a third of the way through the season on target to reach our informal goals of top 10, in sight of play off spots, and then consolidate on this further next season with Warren by hopefully retaining as many as possible to give us the stability we have lacked for many years, now we finally have a budget and can plan ahead.

Well done to everyone involved on and off the pitch!


 For the love of God shut up, some people will probably have a go at me for saying so but I really don't care..unless you are pep Guardiola in disguise just please shut the f##k up 


 We have read and agreed or not agreed with your views on many many occasions. Let the man have his say. Whether you like it or not he is entitled to say what he wants. This is a fans forum. He seems to be a new fan who wants to have his say. ( I may be wrong) We need new fans. Dont we? As many as possible. 
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What I find interesting is the fact we won and got three points yet we are all still arguing (sort of). We can all have our say and I suppose thats the point of this forum. 



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In the pre-season games I was struck by Warren constantly having to remind the new players to keep the shape of the team compact. Recently in our spell of losses by three goals I think the midfield had lost the plot and not done the basics that a midfield needs to do, so left a massive gap behind the strikers instead of keeping the compact shape we had started the season with, weren't closing down, weren't pushing up to support the strikers, weren't always dropping back to help defend.

And football isnt that complicated, if you get the basics wrong you don't win matches, get them right and you give yourself a chance to win.

Today the whole team got the basics right, perfect shape from the team, no gaps for the opposition to exploit, no silly mistakes from us leading to goal for the opposition, an attacking creative formation that totally paid off - I will be pleased to watch the highlights just so I can count how many chances we created, as I can't remember us creating as many clear chances (or "moments" as the new stupid buzz word is) in a single game.

The players are still getting used to the unusual expectations on them from new formations, and made some mistakes while getting used to the higher demands, but today showed they are really getting it now.

The thing I have learned from recent results is the importance for a team to respond positively to setbacks. In this match we had things that could have been problematic, missing our second highest scorer and captain though silly suspensions, playing a man down after losing a player to a red card, missing key players though injury before the game, and during it, yet the team showed fab strength of character, and the non regular starting guys and new arrivals coming in like Sam, Yaser, Sid, Cameron and Tom and Kai showed the depth of the squad that other teams are understandably wary of, so a great response to recent setbacks, and everyone has clearly learned from them.

An important win, as it lifts us 3 places to 8th, and a third of the way through the season on target to reach our informal goals of top 10, in sight of play off spots, and then consolidate on this further next season with Warren by hopefully retaining as many as possible to give us the stability we have lacked for many years, now we finally have a budget and can plan ahead.

Well done to everyone involved on and off the pitch!


 For the love of God shut up, some people will probably have a go at me for saying so but I really don't care..unless you are pep Guardiola in disguise just please shut the f##k up 


 We have read and agreed or not agreed with your views on many many occasions. Let the man have his say. Whether you like it or not he is entitled to say what he wants. This is a fans forum. He seems to be a new fan who wants to have his say. ( I may be wrong) We need new fans. Dont we? As many as possible. 
I do hope by reading this you dont think I am discouraging your right to free speech. 


 Nope, I get you. I'm far from perfect. But to put it in modern terms if PVR was twitter then today #whothef#ckishartley would of been trending, I may be the only one to have said it but certainly not the only one who has thought it. 

Part of me.dont even blame Mr Hartley, I'd say more why the f##k have the club given someone that nobody even knows the time to be able to do what he has apparently done, because I wouldn't even take it off some of the stalwarts of the club, let alone someone who turned up 5months ago, why is he all of a sudden more important than someone who's supported the club 20 years?

Maybe Mr Hartley is new to non league and doesn't realise that yes this ain't league one and you have a lot more access to things than you would at the valley for example but it's also not danson park.



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What I find interesting is the fact we won and got three points yet we are all still arguing (sort of). We can all have our say and I suppose thats the point of this forum. 


 I think its because many of us are realistic and know that we won, but it was far from perfect.

It feels like Mr Hartley, on the other hand is trying to sell us the dream of becoming league champions again.

Crowd was down as well today, a sign maybe that a few voted with there feet min in terms  of our recent form. It was still a good attendance on seasons gone by mind.



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Crowd was down as well today, a sign maybe that a few voted with there feet min in terms  of our recent form. It was still a good attendance on seasons gone by mind.


 Last year crowd for same fixture was a mere 394. Only know as was looking up for secretary on Thursday Im not a statistic keeper 



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Hi folks, just to put my Welling support in context, around 2000 I watched two Welling games, we were a rubbish team apart from Riviere and Rutherford who both really impressed me. Last season two games before Peter Taylor was sacked I came back after that 20 year break, and loved the fighting team spirit, though saw it was always undone by the team conceding stupid free kicks that the opposition invariably scored from, and Taylor did nothing to fix that problem. I then watched all the other home games that season, and have a season ticket this season.

My football supporting background is West Ham and the premiership, but like so many fans have got alienated from Premiership as the clubs and players are so remote from the fans. So it has been fantastic to come to Welling, where it is friendly and approachable. It has taken me a while to understand the big differences between the two levels of play, the biggest difference is the way Vanarama teams often nearly totally rebuild each season, so form changes wildly, whereas premiership often no more than 5 changes are made in a season, so form is more stable.

We had a fantastic pre-season and finished very promisingly last season, so in my rather naive view I thought we were strong promotion candidates. But now I have seen more of this division I realise just how competitive it is, and how difficult it is to be one of the 2 promoted teams in a 24 team league, as all teams constantly look to improve with new signings and managerial changes, so one has to improve too or one is overtaken.

So I got confused, thinking what exactly is a successful season for us, as we finished in the bottom two for the past two seasons, so in a way just finishing out of the bottom four is an achievement (though not an inspiring one) but then again our squad is so good we should have a better goal than just finishing out of the bottom 4. So my confusion about what exactly we should aim for was resolved by hearing from high up team sources that we aim to finish in the top half of the table, ideally top 10, with a chance of a play off spot. Then when I looked at the season results so far I suddenly realised we have been top 10 for the past three months, so had been consistently successful without me having realised it, as I had just looked at week to week results, rather than the overall trend.

Some of the teams we are against, like Ebbsfleet and Havant, have retained 15 players, we only have 4 from last season, and the Welling sources recognise we need to have longer stability in our team retention. So that is where we are, a new team quickly learning what our strengths are, and how to play to them.

Something I have only just realised is how our fixtures have been so unbalanced, as I have only just realised that we have played 8 of the top 11 teams in our 15 games so far (ie had a tough set of opening fixtures, so being 8th after them is really good) but after we play Dartford we have 9 matches in November and December, 8 of which are in the bottom 12 in the league, so hopefully we can do really well in the next two months.

The complaints about the long ball is one I hadn't quite understood before, as I was thinking only about long balls from the keeper, and not also considering clearances from the defenders, but now I know that we are talking about clearances from the whole defensive set up it makes more sense. I suppose it is another part of us being a new team, so this is an area that will improve as our team gets more experience of playing together. Some of my favourite goals this season were our Cheshunt goals, playing down the wing, so yes, I totally get now how playing more that way, rather than more random long clearances is a useful change.

And now to watch the highlights and to count our chances, because the reason I liked this game so much was that we were creating so many clear chances, and the 1 - 0 score doesnt reflect just how well we created chances.

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The thing is that it took a penalty to put this team to bed, when it should been far more straightforward.
Personally think they were the worst side we have played this season.

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Not the prettiest performance but the main thing is that we got the three points. That's all that matters at the end of the day. It seemed strange to me that we started with 5 at the back at home against a side down the bottom of the table. Personally I would have preferred a more attacking formation in 3-5-2, with the back 3 as they were and Chi and Cox playing more as traditional wingers instead of wing backs.

Having seen some zoomed in pictures of the Red card tackle, to me it's clearly a Red, Kassarate's right leg is over the top of the ball, making contact high on the shin of the Hungerford player. No complaints from me on that. However the thing I can complain about is the awful decision by Packman to not issue a second Yellow card to the Hungerford 17. Clear clear Yellow card foul, and he gave him a final warning. The bench took him off straight off after that!

Hopefully the team can build on that going into Tuesday's game against D******d. For me we still need an out an out striker, someone with real pace/ poacher, and we also need at least 1 Winger. We've not really had any wingers since the King year with Brendan Kiernan and Nassim, and it would offer something different to what appears to be a lot of long ball.

I felt for Ade Azeez today. He should have scored at least a couple of his chances but it just wasn't his day, hopefully he's saving at least 4 goals for Tuesday!

Onwards and upwards hopefully!

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Hungerford were dreadful but we were lucky to get in at 0-0 at halft time.

The red card was very harsh but actually so was the penalty.

Playing 3 centre halves is ludicrous, they were letting the ball bounce and were too rigid in their positioning. 

The football is dull, negative and long ball.

If we had the same budget as last year, or even slightly more, then I'd be quite happy being 8th and watching 'Feeneyball'. But our budget is rumoured to be substantially more and if the new owners want to fund this with an expanding fan base then we need to provide better football than the dross that was served up in the first half yesterday. Callum Andrews needs to start, what message is it sending down to our academy when he is over looked for lesser talents who happen to be 6'ft+ tall.

 



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Not the prettiest performance but the main thing is that we got the three points. That's all that matters at the end of the day. It seemed strange to me that we started with 5 at the back at home against a side down the bottom of the table. Personally I would have preferred a more attacking formation in 3-5-2, with the back 3 as they were and Chi and Cox playing more as traditional wingers instead of wing backs.

Having seen some zoomed in pictures of the Red card tackle, to me it's clearly a Red, Kassarate's right leg is over the top of the ball, making contact high on the shin of the Hungerford player. No complaints from me on that. However the thing I can complain about is the awful decision by Packman to not issue a second Yellow card to the Hungerford 17. Clear clear Yellow card foul, and he gave him a final warning. The bench took him off straight off after that!

Hopefully the team can build on that going into Tuesday's game against D******d. For me we still need an out an out striker, someone with real pace/ poacher, and we also need at least 1 Winger. We've not really had any wingers since the King year with Brendan Kiernan and Nassim, and it would offer something different to what appears to be a lot of long ball.

I felt for Ade Azeez today. He should have scored at least a couple of his chances but it just wasn't his day, hopefully he's saving at least 4 goals for Tuesday!

Onwards and upwards hopefully!


 Couldn't agree more, the current two we have up front offer exactly the same. IMO what we need is somebody to offer something different, a bit of mobility and speed who knows where the net is. Such players come at a premium but from what I have seen recently, we need one. 



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First and foremost this is a fans forum and everyone should be able to give their thoughts as they see fit. I often come on here and think I have watched a different game to a lot of people but they probably think the same when they read my thoughts. One thing I would say JH - we have played 15 games and 8 of them against teams currently in the top 12. Therefore we have played 7 teams in the bottom 12 - not exactly lopsided...

It was an important and deserved win yesterday which should have been wider than the final scoreline. Our front two could/should have scored at least one each and we can't afford to miss those chances against better sides. Not sure why we are still playing three centre backs as we have largely had better results with a back four..?? Having good seen a few different images I can't argue with our red card but I will argue that they should have had one red (or two yellows) before that and another red at the end of the game.

One league where we are flying and on course for the Champions League is the ill disciplined league. After 15 league games I make that six red cards (including the two the manager has picked up) We have already lost 2 players to suspension for accumulating five yellow cards and both those players have then gone on to pick up red cards on their return to the team after suspension..! At this rate we will have more cards than Clintons come Christmas time...

On to D******* on Tuesday evening and, contrary to the manager's interview, this is not " just another game" to a large number of Welling fans. Will we get the Welling who busted their balls off at Ebbsfleet or will we get the Welling that rolled over and surrendered last Tuesday...?? Hopefully it will be the former and we will put up a fight - our record against them is shocking in recent years as has been both the size and manner of many of those defeats.  There should be a good turnout of away fans and let's hope the team give them something to shout about..

Up the Wings!



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