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https://www.kentsportsnews.com/hungerford-town-v-welling-united-preview-7-03-03-2023/



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Here is our Leader speaking ahead of tomorrow, who hates more who as Warren certainly has no love for the fans, just like the fans have no love for him. A marriage made in heaven


https://www.wellingunited.com/watch-feeney-looks-ahead-to-hungerford-town-a/



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The bingo card is getting worse. See Dulwich have appointed what would have been a good potential replacement if the pin was pulled

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And "as I says to you" topped the 7 mark during this clip. Is this a record?



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I am a believer in the view, "If you are not part of the solution you are part of the problem". So one can quiet, keep ones head down, and hope things improve. But by now it is obvious they won't improve. We have won one home game in 4 months, and 3 away games in the same period, so have won 4 games in 4 months, won a game a month. So it is worth speaking up.

One of the lovely things about football is it is so approachable, MODERN football people understand the importance of social media, Rashford and Guardiola's account are open to anyone who want to have a word with them. I talk tons online with all sorts of people in the football world, bouncing ideas around. Famous people, less famous people, just as anyone else can. Naming no names, but I know of a club whose manager is a disaster, one relegation after another. He publicly abuses his players, and I know from private conversations with players they HATE it. Players are in awkward positions, they can't publicly challenge the manager as they know he will get them back, by branding them as troublemakers, which would affect their future moves, and marginalise them into never playing in the current team if they are unlucky enough to have a bitter grudgeful manager who cuts them off if they do anything, ANYTHING, he doesn't like. I knew if he carried on like this all players would disappear at the end of the season, as let's be honest, who wants to be publicly abused all the time? So I diplomatically pointed out to him Gareth Southgate, the England manager, who one can safely assume knows more than the mouse of a manager who abuses his player, has an approach of not coaching in matches, as he trusts his players to do what he has coached them to do. The mouse of a manager replied to me with an emoji of a face laughing and crying, and told me not to talk to him again as lions don't listen to the opinions of sheep, and that I was the only one to think the way I think, so keep my views to myself. This reply was so funny, as he is no lion, just a mouse who thinks he is a lion, and it is all so sad, the team have great players who always do their best week after week, but are let down by a arrogant manager who has no interest in any one else's ideas on how to improve, so keeps making the same predictable managerial mistakes. It is so sad and predictable, I wanted to avoid the players will walk, the team will be back to square one of starting off with just a few retained players, against other teams who enjoy playing for their manager and choose to stay for another season. So this nameless silly manager was too arrogant and too much his own worst enemy to understand the help he was being offered to widen his thinking and so make a team players would want to stay with.

And moving the talk onto Welling, as none of the above could possibly apply to Welling or its manager, could it, I was actually sad watching the Chippenham game, seeing a lovely group of guys giving their all for each other, knowing that next season most of them will have gone as they wont want another season with someone. This is a great squad, I love watching Chi, Taylor M, Ade, everyone, and would love to see this team again next season, but this is pay back time, a mouse who thinks he is a lion and treats the players like crap, and guess what, they walk. And thinks fans are just stupid sheep who dont understand what they are seeing. I remember patronising talk saying the talk was to help me. The silly person not realising he was the one who needed help, to stop this from being yet another dismissal. He is his own worst enemy.

So Hungerford are second from bottom, we beat them 1 - 0 last time we played them, so it should be an easy win for us? Except we are going SO backward, teams we beat or drew with earlier this season are now beating us, as they have improved, while we have got worse, with 4 wins in 4 months.

I have no idea what the owner sees in the manager by now. It can only be that the owner is so inexperienced as an owner he hasn't realised months ago who the Big Time Charlie mouse is, who bluffs, but has no answers to fix things, so just attacks or totally cuts off anyone who questions him.

I love this time of the season, the way a team ends a season gives an advance indication of how they will do next season. Man U have blown this season, but wow, their second half form looks really challenging and next season will be a whole new story. We on the other hand will have yet another rebuilt side as our current players will walk to avoid another year of someone, against other more settled teams, our form for the past months is relegation form, with no sign the manager can spot what needs to improve.

The manager gave his usual interview, saying people that criticise him dont know what they are talking about. What does he show he knows about football, he has had a year in the job, which for him is unusual, he has normally been rumbled long before this by more experienced owners who can spot a fraud. We are 8 points off 12 spot (midtable) 15 points off play off spot, which with our squad should have been a minimum target rather than the aimless "play each game and see where it gets us".

Longest post ever, sorry, but a total of two shots on target in three home games at this stage of the season, two games with no shots on target, means this is all the final straw. It is sad to see players and fans being let down by the wannabe a manager mindset of a guy who lacks the skills to do the job, no connection with fans, players dont listen to him, just creates toxicity. When Pele died someone said of him "He was a lovely, lovely guy and there was never any sort of hint of Im up there, youre down there. He never once abused his status or reputation. He had time for everybody. This guy was the real deal and something truly special because he was so down to earth and so normal." I don't remember the genius lion Pele saying he was a lion, or that fans just made noise, and didn't understand football. Just 6 home games left, a great group of guys who deserved better, as do the fans. Warren took over with 10 games to go, enough to make a mark, I think it is time for someone else to have the same time to make a mark. A presumably away fan said on our twitter site, "he won't get you to where you want to go". Very concise, but sadly all too spot on, as shown in the past 4 months results. NOT OPINION. NOT NOISE. DEMONSTRABLE RESULTS AND FACTS.



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0-0. We've got our point back.

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Toxic manager = miserable players = miserable football = miserable fans.

Our manager said "I dont take criticism". He shows how true this is, the mouse can't handle criticism, so just dismisses it as noise. Proper, successful managers value criticism and use it effectively. A top quality successful manager like Guardiola knows how useful criticism can be if used well, recently saying, "I prefer they boo and criticise than be silent. I want my fans to demand the maximum when we don't play good, I think they when they are with this energy the players feel it. The players feel it, I feel it, everyone feel it."

A fan of another team was saying about their manager, "He wants to control his image in the media rather than dedicate himself to improving, which means accepting the negative but accurate analysis - his absurd formations and tactics don't work with a bunch of Championship dross."

I guess he avoids social media as he is control driven, so doesnt like people he can't control to stop them from criticising or exposing his flaws that he tries to cover up by misleading about his win rates, inaccurately spinning our 5 wins in 5 months is progress.

A bad manager is a bad manager, and they share characteristics. Someone said on a forum, David Moyes shows all the traits of a bad leader. Stubborn, wont listen to outside counsel and holds a grudge. These are things that you dont want in a modern coach, manager or a CEO. In a results driven business he has had a terrible record over the last calendar year. Very familiar. So 0 - 0 against the bottom team is no surprise.

We have 5 wins from 24 league games played from October onwards. 20% wins.

His overall league win percentage with us is 13 wins from 44 games, 29%.

This is not progress or a recipe for long term success.


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A lot of hot air, but not much comment on the game.
Here goes.
Usual drab, take forward off and look for draw.
Work both wings, but keep the grass green on the middle.
Start ok first half, as second half continues, retreat.
Nice town, great pubs, lovely ground.


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Tough place to come......

Said nobody ever, including the 12 teams that all took points there before us (from 17 games)

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We get worse the more we go, since the start of the season our complete league and cup results have been

D L W W W L W W W D W D D L D L W D L W L D D W D L D L L W W L L W D D L W L D L D

We won 7 out of the first 11, then 7 out of the next 31 games.





-- Edited by Johnny Hartley on Sunday 5th of March 2023 12:18:05 PM

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