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Southern League Play Offs on May 1st

AFC Totton v Bracknell (thankfully not Merthyr)
Salisbury v Gosport
I see the Salisbury chairman had to put a statement out condemning crowd trouble by his fans over the last month

Ryman League Play Offs Nay 1st

Chatham v The Lardy Army Horsham
Enfield Town v Wingate &Finchley

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The way AFC Totton are playing at present fancy them to win. Only promoted to Southern Premier this season, with a few quid behind them, and including some very experienced players such as Scott Rendell and ex Wing Ben Jefford.



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Next season wont be a doddle. Bit of money being chucked around in the leagues below. Understand Hornchurch are looking to join Efl as are Chatham if promoted. Even lower down the pyramid Bedford have stated their intentions as well. Unfortunately money talks and I hear and read these clubs have some great backing. Not long before some more established Efl clubs end up in non league if their not careful. 



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Worthing 2 Maidstone 1

Worthing too strong for Maidstone.

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Jimmies poised to book his Wembley tickets Bromley 3-1 up

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Jimmies poised to book his Wembley tickets Bromley 3-1 up

 Yep, see that Bromley came back from 1-0 down at half-time.

Strong second half performance to secure their place in the final against Solihull Moors. Could be a new 2 way Wembley scarf for our super statistician, J.H.

Amazing how far these clubs have progressed when we consider that it's either Bromley or Solihull Moors for League 2. Good luck to Bromley but fairly certain the pitch will have to come up if they make it (no doubt they will be planning ahead for this, if indeed the case).,

Solihull Moors beat Barnet 4-0, so after our FA Trophy loss it shows the level these teams are at.

However:

 

If the Wings are United, 

Then we'll never be divided,

 

UNITED!! ...  UNITED!! ... UNITED!!

 



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Jimmies poised to book his Wembley tickets Bromley 3-1 up

 Bromley sold 7500 so far according to their X  -   Solihull 1000 according to Conference forum.



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Solihull Moors beat Barnet 4-0, so after our FA Trophy loss it shows the level these teams are at.

 

 Barnet finished second, and didn't thrash us despite them playing a strong side. However, there is a huge jump from the National League South to the National League. I don't think that Yeovil will find it easy unless they upgrade in quite a few positions. Worthing or Braintree will be favourites to go down.



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Now we're free from relegation concerns, I feel confident speaking on behalf of all Welling fans in saying we are united about concern over the low profile of Nepalese football. Me and Riverstown think of little else! The FA is quite rightly also aware of the importance of this burning issue, and announced the England C fixture, part of a visit from the Nepalese FA to help raise the profile of football to the Nepalese community in England and increase participation from the South Asian community as part of the FAs Asian Inclusion Strategy.

It is interesting to see the non league players in the 16-man England C squad for the international friendly against Nepal on Monday 6th May. The squad consists solely of players based in the south of England, though National League Play-off finalists Bromley and National League South play-off finalists Braintree Town and Worthing have not had any players called up, likely due to their respective games taking place on the same weekend. There are 3 NLS players and 3 Barnet players named. The full squad is:

Goalkeepers: Nathan Ashmore (Boreham Wood), Elliot Justham (Dagenham & Redbridge).

Defenders: Danny Collinge (Barnet), Zico Asare (Maidenhead United), Ollie Harfield (Aldershot Town), Ollie Kensdale (Southend United), Jaydn Mundle-Smith (Wealdstone).

Midfielders: Jack Payne (Boreham Wood), Josh Rees (Dagenham & Redbridge), Sam Corne (Maidstone United), Toby Edser (Ebbsfleet United), Tyler Frost (Aldershot Town), Johnny Goddard (Slough Town).

Attackers: Jack Barnham (Aldershot Town), Nicke Kabamba (Barnet), Callum Stead (Barnet).


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The match is being played at the Recreation Ground (aka EBB Stadium) of Aldershot Town.

There is a large Nepalese presence in the Aldershot area, due to it being the historic base for the British Army, with some very good (reasonably priced) restaurants close to the centre - look for Ghurka in the titles.  There is also a Buddhist Community Centre next to the ground.  Admission is £10 Adults and £5 Juniors.



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Peter, thanks for confirming there is some planning in the FA after all, I didn't know any of that background.

The finances for promoted teams to the National League is a recent problem, it used to be a fairly easy step up from NLS to National League, but in the last few seasons promoted teams often get relegated within a season or two of promotion, and Maidstone and Oxford recently both came down totally outclassed. The obstacles of promotion are higher costs from having to play further away, and lots of National League teams are full time, whereas promoted NLS are usually based on part time, so the costs of going full time would be an additional higher cost. I went to see two National League games at Bromley, and the tickets were £22, £5 more than us, so they generate some extra money by higher ticket prices for National League. But looking at our attendances when we were in the National League, they werent particularly higher than NLS attendances.

The League has a much more balanced structure, all Division 2 clubs get £400K from the league, so any newly promoted team suddenly has £400K to play with, whereas teams promoted to the National League have no such assistance. Newly arrived Division 2 clubs can also get grants of up to £750K for their stadiums, whereas again, promotion to National League misses out on that massive club changing sum. Though artificial pitches are banned in the league, so promoted clubs with those have to remove them, and so lose all that pitch hire revenue. We are only 5 promotions away from the Premiership, and the days of Welling 2, Arsenal 0.

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Johnny, if your club charged you £22 then surely that is £7 more than us at Welling United as we were charging £15.

Our increase isn't effective until '24/'25 season.

N.B. Just the two home matches?!





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Two ells in Welling wrote:

The way AFC Totton are playing at present fancy them to win. Only promoted to Southern Premier this season, with a few quid behind them, and including some very experienced players such as Scott Rendell and ex Wing Ben Jefford.



-- Edited by Two ells in Welling on Sunday 28th of April 2024 11:52:07 AM

 Definitely agree, Two ells. We rated Scott Rendell when he was at Cambridge Utd. He was prolific at Woking years later, of course. Good to see Ben Jefford still playing at a decent enough level.



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Odin73 wrote:

Southern League Play Offs on May 1st

AFC Totton v Bracknell (thankfully not Merthyr)
Salisbury v Gosport
I see the Salisbury chairman had to put a statement out condemning crowd trouble by his fans over the last month

Ryman League Play Offs Nay 1st

Chatham v The Lardy Army Horsham
Enfield Town v Wingate &Finchley

 Play off final:

 

AFC Totton v Salisbury 

 

Chatham v Enfield



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Odin73 wrote:

Jimmies poised to book his Wembley tickets Bromley 3-1 up

 Bromley sold 7500 so far according to their X  -   Solihull 1000 according to Conference forum.

 Sorry to quote myself. However just had a nose around X and see Bromley have sold 12000 tickets for the final. If they get through I wonder how many of these glory hunters will turn up at Hayes Lane next season?



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Bromley win on penalties

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Bromley win on penalties

 Makes us the highest non league club in a South East London borough. 



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I expect better from you squareman thats a Jimmie stat

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I expect better from you squareman thats a Jimmie stat

 Just for that. Our record of 12 consecutive wins in 2012-13 still stands according to wiki smile



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Trip down memory lane for the old uns , its an Enfield win over Chatham easily

Though the stAdium looks a bit naff



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Worthing 3 Braintree 4 aet

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AFC Totton loose to Salisbury on penalties 3-4



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So, now we know who the 2024 - 25 NLS teams are:

Aveley
Bath City
Boreham Wood
Chelmsford City
Chesham United
Chippenham Town
Dorking Wanderers
Eastbourne Borough
Enfield Town
Farnborough
Hampton & Richmond Borough
Hemel Hempstead Town
Hornchurch
Maidstone United
Salisbury
Slough Town
St Albans City
Tonbridge Angels
Torquay United
Truro City
Welling United
Weston-super-Mare
Weymouth
Worthing

Towards the end of last season a couple of managers mentioned Welling were on the ascendancy. They were talking about us rising up the table for that season, but actually ascendancy applies to us longer term too, as after two bottom two finishes we've had two midtable finishes, so the next progression for continued ascendency is top half finishes. We had play off form with Rod, over all 3 months of his management so far, so it looks promising.

Gosport, Chelmsford and Maidstone all lost in play off semis, Chatham lost their final, which for various reasons I wish they'd all won. I was surprised Chelmsford lost their semi against Braintree, so watched the highlights to see what went wrong for Cheltenham, and the quality of the 3 goals Braintree scored was excellent, so no disgrace Chelmsford losing that game. Bromley got promoted to the League which surprised me on the basis of the two indifferent games I saw them play last season. I read somewhere they are the 148th team to get into the league. It's taken them 150 years to get into the league, I hope it doesnt take us 150 years to do that, or we wont be around in 90 years time to see it! NLS is tough, no easy games in the above teams, but really looking forward to the new season.

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It's looking promising for Torquay United as a Consortium has purchased the club, subject to creditor approval.

Neil Warnock has been involved in an advisory capacity and may well take on a role at the club, potentially the new manager.

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It's looking promising for Torquay United as a Consortium has purchased the club, subject to creditor approval.

Neil Warnock has been involved in an advisory capacity and may well take on a role at the club, potentially the new manager.

 I think that Warnock has a director of football type role. Someone else is their intended manager. Their budget is set to be huge for NLS standards. I look forward to Welling doubling them.



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Steve King perhaps?!!



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You would think that Mr. King would get Torquay into the play offs, at the very least, especially with a decent budget & the input of the experienced Neil Warnock. Somebody told me that Steve King is manager at recently promoted Deal Town but this is actually a different Steve King!

In any event, let's hope our away form in the 'West Country' improves this coming season. Rod Stringer is definitely the man to make that happen.

If the Wings...



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Two ells in Welling wrote:

Steve King perhaps?!!

 Paul Wotton has left Truro City to become manager of Torquay United. 



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