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Another one of those games that could have gone until tommorow, yet the result would have remained the same.
Bloody frustrating having a pair of centre forwards you would $hityourself from in a dark alley, yet look like a pair of puddle jumpers on a Saturday afternoonn.

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One of the worst decisions I have ever seen went against us today. We will have to suck it up and go again on Tuesday. 

Maybe it is time to move dugouts so the opposition is not in the linesman ear. 



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The first half hour or so was outstanding from us, wow, what a start, by miles the best from us so far this season, we looked like the play off team out there, the high energy prematch warm up was perfect, it set us up for a quick start to the game and the early goal (can't remember our last early goal) great link up play between Elliot and Anointed, carrying on using all their experience of playing together at their previous team. Then conceded a stupidly conceded free kick, which they scored from, and they were awarded a penalty for a handball that was clearly well outside the box. I'll have to see the highlights to decide if their third goal was offside in the build up. Our passes started going a bit astray once we fell behind as we lost our opening precision. We scored one goal from open play, so did they, plus they got two goals from set pieces freekick and penalty.

The ref was a nightmare, trying to say, "look at me I am a big boy, I am not scared to award decisions against the home team" the problem was he was so intent on making point that his reffing got totally unbalanced.

Loved to see Max Statham back, turning defence into attack with some great passes up the pitch, Sam Cornish and Martell were the only weak links out there today, players have to make an impact, and both to me at least were the only ones for us not to make an impact. Martell just doesn't link up with anyone when he is in attack, a one man band up there, and he is not a guy to create his own chances, so hard to see where his goals will come from. Apart from Antony Grant the lack of a strong ballwinner in midfield to break up their play held us back. Excellent game for Alex Lankshear, Lachlan Byrd level of excellence. When we played them last time we won with two late goals, and they will have felt they were mugged, as a draw would have been a fair result. This time round we got mugged, by the ref. But we are already way beyond where we were this time last year, and with our other league games in October being against lesser opposition than Weston, this game is like fishing, the one that got away, but we will bounce back. Tons of tidy play from Kwaku Donkor. A shame about the result, but when the dust settles, lots of things to like about the performance.

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Lesser opposition wtf. We are one of the lesser opposition in this league at the moment. Most teams look at us as a good chance to collect all three points and I include the few teams below us. Once again we are in a relegation fight. If the team go out with the attitude that they are playing lesser opposition they will lose. Simple. I am surprised a football genius like Jimmie does not understand that.

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I do understand that without referees, football as we know it wouldn't happen, and there is a national shortage particularly at grass roots level.
I thought I had heard about the worst ever display of biased and/or poor refereeing earlier this season given the events in Bath, and then Truro, (the latter not involving Welling) but then came yesterday, a certain Mr Jonathan Chadwick, (aided and abetted by 'Assistant Referee' I believe Joseph Dann-Pye). These names are indelibly etched in my brain in case they should ever return to PVR, (or any other ground I visit). I only hope they lose their jobs before others as a consequence of their ill-gotten decision making.
I can't see in any way how that penalty decision can be considered a mistake? For me it was just cheating.
With 'business' acumen like that it is no wonder Mr Chadwick's bakery business went from north to down south and beyond! That decision yesterday took the biscuit... ta ra!

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Being a football genius, unlike non football geniuses like Riverstown, I understand if you have injuries and play top clubs, it's quite possible results will go against you.

Rod's mention of relegation in the post match interview surprised me, but then I looked at the table and saw we are 6th from bottom, 1 point above the relation 4, albeit with a game in hand, so yes, we are in trouble in the table.

But unfortunately for some who dont really understand how opposition and injuries affect results, the table does not show things like which teams we have already played, who is coming up, and what our injuries are.

So to fix that, let's look at the fixtures so far, where they are in the table, and matches coming up in October to help non football geniuses like Riverstown to catch up with what's been going on this season.

Games played so far in our first 9 games and opposition position in the table. (spoiler: We have played 5 of the top 7 in our 9 games so far!)

Hemel - Top
Weston - 2nd
Torquay - 3rd
Farnbrough -6th
Boreham - 7th
Chesham - 12th
Hornchurch 18th
Bath 17th
Aveley - 22nd

October games to play

Worthing - 16th
Eastbourne - 8th
St Albans - 24th
Enfield - 21st
Dorking - 11th
Maidstone - 15th

So yeah, by the end of October we will have had a balanced set of fixtures, high and low, and if we are still in relegation trouble then I'll start to get worried. But for the moment, we are what we are, a fairly new team, still gelling, dropping players that dont take their chances to make an impact, bringing in more impactful players, with the aim of closing the gap on more settled and experienced teams.

Football is often a confidence thing, we were outstanding in the start yesterday, then we got rattled and our passing started becoming inaccurate, and that is a problem when possession is so important, don't just whack it away to clear it, but pick out a pass to one of our players. Riverstown, sorry I know this post is all way above your head, but others will understand the issues.


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Being a football genius, unlike non football geniuses like Riverstown, I understand if you have injuries and play top clubs, it's quite possible results will go against you.

Rod's mention of relegation in the post match interview surprised me, but then I looked at the table and saw we are 6th from bottom, 1 point above the relation 4, albeit with a game in hand, so yes, we are in trouble in the table.

But unfortunately for some who dont really understand how opposition and injuries affect results, the table does not show things like which teams we have already played, who is coming up, and what our injuries are.

So to fix that, let's look at the fixtures so far, where they are in the table, and matches coming up in October to help non football geniuses like Riverstown to catch up with what's been going on this season.

Games played so far in our first 9 games and opposition position in the table. (spoiler: We have played 5 of the top 7 in our 9 games so far!)

Hemel - Top
Weston - 2nd
Torquay - 3rd
Farnbrough -6th
Boreham - 7th
Chesham - 12th
Hornchurch 18th
Bath 17th
Aveley - 22nd

October games to play

Worthing - 16th
Eastbourne - 8th
St Albans - 24th
Enfield - 21st
Dorking - 11th
Maidstone - 15th

So yeah, by the end of October we will have had a balanced set of fixtures, high and low, and if we are still in relegation trouble then I'll start to get worried. But for the moment, we are what we are, a fairly new team, still gelling, dropping players that dont take their chances to make an impact, bringing in more impactful players, with the aim of closing the gap on more settled and experienced teams.

Football is often a confidence thing, we were outstanding in the start yesterday, then we got rattled and our passing started becoming inaccurate, and that is a problem when possession is so important, don't just whack it away to clear it, but pick out a pass to one of our players. Riverstown, sorry I know this post is all way above your head, but others will understand the issues.


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Just to clarify to avoid any confusion, the Maidstone game in October as mentioned in this thread by our super statistician, Johnny, is actually a Kent Senior Cup fixture and not a league match. Our first league meeting with Maidstone, this season, is on New Year's Day.

Back to the title of this thread... regarding the handball, initially, the ref clearly made the correct call yesterday by awarding a free kick well outside the box. Deja vu - to those that remember when we lost 2-0 away with a penalty awarded against us for handball (or a foul?) about 2-3 yards outside the box. It was against... WsM! Admittedly, it was probably over 10 years ago but, nevertheless, remarkable.

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Just to clarify to avoid any confusion, the Maidstone game in October as mentioned in this thread by our super statistician, Johnny, is actually a Kent Senior Cup fixture and not a league match. Our first league meeting with Maidstone, this season, is on New Year's Day.

Back to the title of this thread... regarding the handball, initially, the ref clearly made the correct call yesterday by awarding a free kick well outside the box. Deja vu - to those that remember when we lost 2-0 away with a penalty awarded against us for handball (or a foul?) about 2-3 yards outside the box. It was against... WsM! Admittedly, it was probably over 10 years ago but, nevertheless, remarkable.

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 Had forgotten that incident where the lino then was the only person in the ground seeing it. I have a vague memory it cost us a play off place. Same lino refereed a pre season game against Thamesmead Town at Baylis Avenue. I still remember Barrie Hobbins talking with a Thamesmead club official who gave Barrie his opinion of that gentleman. Bit like yes Barrie, we think hes **** as well.



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I dont know why Riverstown doubts my superior football knowledge, my 100% perfect stats (er, thanks for the correction about the Maidstone fixture The Poet) confirm I know precisely 0.09% about football, whereas Riverstown trails me with only 0.03%, so clearly I have superior football knowledge. OK, The Poet has 99.9% football knowledge, so holds the overall title, but I've consolation of being superior to my online stalker, who clearly has too much time on his hands!

It was noticeable our attack got worse once Elliot moved back to midfield to make way for Martell. Weve shuffled our attacking options all season long, but nothing's really worked out, I'm a believer in if it aint broke dont fix it, Elliot and Anointed proved they work together very successfully in their previous club, so already understand runs each makes, so we already have a ready made proven effective striking partnership answer for our attack, but surprisingly we usually dont use it, rather puzzlingly playing repeat underperforming one man bands Reece and Martell instead, as by now I've seen enough of Martell to see he is not our answer.

Anointed is now joint top scorer for us, but interestingly last season Elliot scored nearly double the goals Anointed got. Both look for passes to players around them. Gene Kennedy is joint top scorer, I don't know if assists are published, but think he may be most assists, so him playing in the hole behind the 2 strikers Elliot and Anointed would give us goals and assists our attack lacks, as the 3 are very creative, good finishers and our best attacking players by a distance, yet often theyve not been played in out and out attacking positions. Gene played quite deep against Weston, hardly in their box, a shame as he offers more than nearly all going forward.

Dave Carthys not played much, it'd be interesting to see how he does on playing in attack alongside Anointed, as the two big guys would be a real handful for any opposition defence and a real game changer for us in attack. Dave Carthy impressed me against Bengal, miles more link up play and movement than Martell, but it's hard for Dave Carthy to show what he can do in attack if hes hardly played. I saw him play a game where he didnt make much impact, but with a choice of Elliot, Anointed, Gene to link up with hed then have the supply our strikers lacked so far this season.


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Having had time to look at the highlights and listen to Rod's interview compared to what I saw on the day these are my thoughts. For the 1st 20 minutes or so Welling ran the match. Scored a superb very early goal were in command and controlled the game. Gave away possession and conceded a free kick resulting in a soft goal. I felt Rhys should have claimed the cross from the free kick. The penalty well that was a joke. Never a penalty in a million years. The referee needs to go to spec savers! I did think that at the time too. I also thought we should have had a penalty second half. I wanted to check these points as they were at the park end and a fair distance from my seat. I also thought we could have had a penalty in the 1st half for a high kick. Over the 90 minutes I did think Weston deserved to win but were ably assisted by the referee. Their 3rd goal was another soft one and some poor defending from us and got caught. Game over.

The early optimism of pre-season and the early season is now disappearing over the horizon. I had expected Elliot to continue scoring with ease. That hasn't materised, though I still believe he is our most talented footballer this season. The one constant and question I've been asking all season is where will the goals come from. Our attack has only really clicked once. At home to Farnborough. Anointed has made the step up and struggled I think he plays better with two up top. Martell for me is better in a wide position. We have replaced 3 of the 4 players we let go with better players and I would argue we have a very strong defence with depth. We haven't replaced Reece Grant. Strikers are like gold dust. Even at this level they earn good money. I reckon £1,000 a week unless we have that to spend or can find it in our budget I predict another long season where we must hope there are a least 4 teams worse than us. To be successful our team desperately needs a proven striker at this level. The last one we had was Dipo Akinyemi and on loan Sonny Fish last season. We have spent that kind of money before but not got value for money, this time we must. We can't keep hoping to win 1-0. The squad is full of players with football league experience that are talented but sometimes they aren't physically strong enough and lose the battles and 2nd balls cheaply. They need to want it more than the opposition be hungrier than the opposition and have an appetite for the uglier side of the game.

For me we've had 4 consistently good players this season, Daniel Martin, who I thought was our man of the match Saturday, Dave Wingate, Rhys Lovett and Gene Kennedy. The others have all had good games but need to find that level of consistency.

On a personal note as an Arsenal fan I'm pleased to see Mitchel sign, son of the legendary DB10, and if he can set up our strikers the way Dennis set up Thierry all will be well.

Verdict: Hoping for better things away at Worthing

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Elliot is getting half the job right, he is getting in lots of shots from good shooting positions, unlike a couple of other strikers, but he is not then getting the other half right of getting them in, but that accuracy will improve if he gets a run of games in attack and gets his striking sharpness.

Anointed justifying his starting place in the team is shown by his stats, hes repaying Rods confidence in signing him, played in 7 of our 9 games, on for 494 minutes the equivalent of 5.5 games - and scored 3 goals, which a goal every other game is a very good strike rate for a guy pretty much making a step up and playing his first proper season in NLS, more experienced fans than me comment on us for many years lacking a 20 goal a season striker, but if Anointed maintains his form for the rest of the season he could be it. Martells been on for 487 minutes, with 1 goal so far. I know right now Anointed and Elliot arent experienced proven NLS strikers, but it is interesting, as the season goes on and they play more games, they become proven NLS.

I think the dip is just temporary. Our big problem right now is inconsistency. Until a month ago I'd not seen us play badly with Rod, suddenly in the last month we have had lots of bad games/ bad halves. And the bad halves is a problem, as that good/ bad bad/ good is inconsistency, and previously we have been so consistent.

It feels just now as if we fall behind we panic and rush our passes, lose the ball too easily, then we are chasing the game. So against Weston we were fantastic at the start, then were under pressure and stopped passing accurately and just started kicking it wildly, so lost our control of the game.

That first half of the Boreham game was a lesson we should've learned from, also like say Chesham and Chatham, where we gave the ball away too easily, so they scored as they'd the ball and passed it around so accurately, so we couldnt score as we didnt have it. Second half we started passing accurately and improved, until the stupid sending off messed us up. I've no idea if Rod tells players to concentrate on keeping possession with accurate passing, but the root of lots of our recent problems is we lose it too easily and dont have strong tackling midfielders to win it back. And of course players give away silly free kicks and penalties and getting dumb red cards, which they didnt do last season, or at the start of this season, so they must realise they need to stop shooting themselves in the foot and giving us mountains to climb of giving soft goals away from careless play that mean we then have to score 1 or 2 just to be level. But I believe we'll learn and improve, as it was an amazing start against Weston, and Worthing haven't won any of their last 3 games, so let's hope it is our night tonight!

I always look forward to Alan's comments, but as I am a totally impartial Welling fan with West Ham allegiances, I have to say Mitchel is much better than his dad!


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