Just to put a different angle on it, aside from Barron, Abbott and Horton who were either top quality players already at the level we were at or much better, who has come back after being sold
eleased and made a success of it.
Steve Barnes and Standen didn't exactly set the place on fire.

Replica, A clause in a contract allowing release if a higher league club come in with a bid of £x for a player is a feature of some contracts these days and yes I believe it does make a difference. What such a contract ensures is that a club receives some recompense for the loss of a player they have 'discovered'/developed and that could make a significant difference to a Clubs ability to survive financially. Clubs like Welling who aren't able to compete for many players have to trawl the lower leagues to seek out players with potential and depending on the calibre of the manager they can unearth players with real potential upon who they take a chance. If these players do thrive having been given the chance surely the least that player owes the club is that they get some recompense for their investment in them.

I've heard the argument about the contribution they have made to the side in their spell at the club but a club who do take the gamble on young unproven players and lose them without any recompense for its initial risk and subsequent investment could easily find themselves going in the opposite direction to the players it has unearthed.

As far as the Ady/Bods situation goes my understanding from the press releases at the time is that Bods was so disillusioned that he was going to quit the game and Ady spent weeks trying to persuade him that all was not lost and that there was still the opportunity to further his career by proving himself at Welling.

Addressing the point raised by Graham yes I do believe that any player offered a contract by the Manager should sign. The Manager obviously thinks that they will be an integral part of his plans and he and his team will be investing their time and energy in developing them. If the player is not prepared to sign up for this then it is a very one sided situation. The exception to this would be at contract renewal time when as with Keds and Daisy they received better offers from another Club when they were out of contract. If other clubs want them whilst they are contracted unless there are circumstances where it is mutually agreed to release a player there should be a transfer fee.

I believe that realistically for a club like us where success in cup/trophy competitions has a major impact on the playing budget and we have to sign unproven players it is not practicable to contract every player, but proven players who are key to the managers plans should be contracted.

-- Edited by bruno at 09:42, 2009-02-09

I'll grant you Hone. To a certain extent Bartley?

We are certainly do not seem to talking about anyone in the last decade that I can remember.

Bud Boy was player of the year in both his stints at PVR.

So that is five or six in 25 years and given one of those played in the top flight and was a nail on to be ok (don't quote Keith Rowland as a contradictory argument here) it is hard to make a case that resigning Bod, Daisy, Keds etc would be a near guaranteed success.

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how can you say that about keds.his contract run out and had chance 2 play higher

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The fact that his contract ran out 18 months ago, as far as I'm aware, does not affect how he is playing now or how he would fit in now to our team.

I guess that many of the people who use this forum will have left their jobs for more money at some point, some will certainly have p!$$ed off their former employers. How much loyalty is there in any walk of life now?

The things that disappoint me are when the likes of Chapman says he wants to leqave to try and get back into the league and then drops down two levels for a quick buck, Rivs decides he needs to try somewhere else and then drops down for the money, Trebble agrees to sign a contract and then reneges when offered more by Hayes, and Baker apparently agreed to sign a contract for Ford but then cleared off.

If a player is offered the opportunity to play at a higher level, such as Bod, Daisy and Keds, I don't have a problem with it. I don't have the same contract concerns as Bruno as it can work for both player and club to be free. Ford cleared out quite a few of Smith's squad and he would not have been able to do that as easily had they been on contract.

Should a player say openly that he has left for more money, it would be slightly less annoying.