For those who could not make the game today you missed nothing and i can assure you ask ANYBODY there and they will tell you, you missed NOTHING apart from a very good second goal from Maidenhead, i was very impressed with the way the fans were discussing amongst themselves the game rather then venting there anger towards the team even though there was a few occasions when certain people vented there thoughts, not naming names but some guy who was not sure were his coat was springs to mind. Knowing many off you that follow the team home and away i am sure you will agree that performance deserved to be slated and that we as the fans deserved more and i am sure that the players would agree, i really thought that Andy Ford would come over at the end and say look guys i am sorry for that it was that bad, Sanchez ming must of been on the razzle last night or not just been bothered, Moses and Baker didnt really get much service but when they did, there was no need for us to get excited because they were so far apart it would have taken a day to trek with a team of huskies to reach one another and support arriving from midfield, well i cant really remember and and that is me being serious. Harry Arter has got all the talent in certain areas but were was the player off the past two games anyone else thinking that there may have been scouts at the games with the top two he was aware off but not at this game?
On a final note and i know that we have just had two great results previous to this but can anyone help me with this question - how does a manager of the team on the verge off the playoffs who have been told this week that they cant go up get there team up for a game against us who have just come off two wins against the top two, and we go out there and produce that drizzle what was said surely they were up for it you would think but after that performance you have to think twice?
I must point out that there was a great away following and they deserved more.
I totally agree. There may have been some comments from some people including myself at times that were not needed but today was awful and embarrassing. What was also not needed was comments from the bench regarding the comments made by the fans. I felt annoyed that at the end of the game in the bar none of the players or management came over to thank us for the support today and it makes me think why i bother, why i've bothered to book time off work to go to Team Bath or Havant away when the effort put in by today's team does not match the effort or money spent by the supporters who came to support the team today. If the team want to take the compliements from the last game then they have to take the criticisms when they played badly. I have no problem in losing to a side better than ourselves but to lose to a side when we put little or no effort in is inexcusable, so many times today players could have won balls but simply made no effort to try and win them. If this club wants to take the applause and praises of the supporters from games like Wimbledon and Hampton then they need to realise that we as supporters have a right to voice our opinion when games such as today occur. I have not seen any word from the club thanking the fans from the support in the last two games and wonder whether the supporters attitude today will be mentioned in the press this week. To put it simply today was not good enough
who sent the steward over ?... Sorry buv i dont know your name, have seen you at all the games i go to. you stood up and told them what all of us behind that goal were feeling. as out there there was no leadership, no fight, remember Eastleigh away. so the next time fordie starts banging his gums about fans not turning up, just remember what you and your team show us at Maidenhead . . oh one last thing mr ford, at the end of the game, if you want to applaud the welling fans who have make the effort to come from far and near, at their cost. we are the ones behind the goal your team are ment to be attacking...............that feels better see you all at PVR on the 4th !!........can only get better
Toatally agree with all the above. This has sealed our hopes of a playoff fight.
We were second to every ball, rarely beat the first man on a set piece and they beat us by playing the same way at PVR by hoofing it through the middle where most of the game was. Couldnt work out Sanchez, looked injured and was hobbling about and then would run like a gazel next. Harry Arter had a poor game, which I guess every one is allowed but the most dissappointing thing was the totallack of passion. This should have been one of our cup finals and we didnt turn up.
Fair play to the guys behind the goal who turn up, spend their money and support at every match. Some one needs to recognise their efforts before its too late and they decide they have better ways to spend their money and spend their time.
It was summed up for me at the end of game, the fans trudged off, the team trudged off, no one acknowledged anything and then the management came on and bollocked everyone on the pitch- oh and if I never seen Madenhead again it will be too soon, crap ground, crap pitch and someone had in the gents urinals-quality!
Lee Blackburn Would say that he seems the only 1 who acknowledged us when he was taken off. Why did the management take the team to the other side of the pitch ?, maybe so they didnt have to walk passed us fans waiting at the gate !...
Yesterday was awful. I'm not really surprised that the team / management didn't acknowledge the fans at the end of the game. The team were given quite a lot of stick for a really woeful performance. The trouble is I'm not really sure that getting on their backs is the best way to motivate them. People are entitled to express their opinions - they have given up their time and paid their money but when does it start to become counter-productive? Anyway whatever the rights or wrongs of it, it isn't really surprising that Andy and the team didn't acknowledge our "support" - I wouldn't have done in their position.
Yep your right it does become counter pro-ductive but people are hardly likely to applaude a lack lustre performance when you have shelled out hard earned monies in difficult times.
I guess it comes back to the difficult argument in football of supporters v customers. Whatever way I'm sure the people who will have no doubt been down this road before will be back at the long haul at Weston to cheer the team on.
I guess some acknowledgement from the club sometimes of appreciation goes a long way. Fair play to Barrie, he always seems to spend time with the fans and I'm sure this hasnt gone unnoticed.
They were terrible and as people have said Maidenhead seemed to be more up for it than us. Maidenhead are physical and we struggle against those types of teams. It shows how far away this team is from being a genuine promotion contender. Fordy needs to get in a few tacklers and battlers for next season. We have some good players but they need a good pitch which York Road certainly isn't and/or a football playing opposition rather than the hoov it brigade. The one who disappointed me most yesterday was Moses who looked like he had a busy Friday night. He didn't want the ball and seemed to be scared of the giants who inhabit Maidenhead's backline.
At least we have the Kent Senior Cup final to look forward to :)
Andrew this has to be bought up mate i have seen a hell off a lot worse at wings games, as in terms of fans venting there anger compared to yesterday, never understood when people go we should not have a go its counter productive didnt think we were watching the under 11's yesterday this was mens football, i am sure you have played yourself and people have said on your team sort it out or you yourself are going round thinking i am having a shocker. And to say that you would not have acknowleged us in that position is crazy mate as i have stated in the past we the fans are lucky to get a clap off the players regardless off the position the game is in, i know Matt and there are not many people who have more passion for this club then him and i back what he said to the players and what everyone else said behind the goal its not on we have done nothing in the ten years i have been supporting the wings but i will keep going and hoping we get the chance to progress, thats why i fill many were really pissed off yesterday as there was a chance and unless things go are way big style till the end of the season we will be going back to that ****hole again next year, not have a go mate just fill this is men and due to there total lack of passion we were venting ours.
I think certain members of the bench were pointing me out and saying "I bet he will put something on the forum" Well here I am!
First of all yes critism is counter productive, however when I have ever watched or participated in football all I have ever known is give 100% and no one can ask anymore than this. Did we see this on Saturday from the team, maybe not.
Secondly we the supporters WSU have put our money where our mouth is this year, we have seen a fantastic development on the team year on year, but I do believe we have a team capable of sitting comfortably in the top 4, I didn't think I would be saying that 12 months ago. My anger is born out of missing one of the best opportunities since Adies reign two year's ago, we should be in those play off's mediocrity becomes exceptable in life far to quickly.
I know you the players read this message board, there are 7 cup finals lets give it the best shot!
i "dont get t o all the away games so maybe im not entitled to criticise thse who do but slagging off our won team is counterproductive and does us no good - just cos we beat wimbledon away doesnt entitle us to beat everyone in the league
we will turn into charlton if we arent careful where we boo and criticise because we dont win and the players "dont show commitment" which is stupid because of course the players want to win - lets not turn into a set of fans who boo every game Ford is doing a great job and lets not drive him out with stupid clueless comments about "no commitment" and "no effort"
J, its not the fact that they lost. its the way they lost...that what matt the hat going on about. did you go to Eastleigh ?...we fought all the way to the end. Saturday i dont think their keeper had to make a save, we was 2nd to every ball, sometimes not even 2nd !..... so lets see if they can pick themself up for saturday !!!.....see you all there........
any consumer will always have the right to give opinion on the product or service they get for their money. good point made by matt about the wsu providing funds. PLEASE dont take this the wrong way. But IMO re-signing Ju ... Baker sends out a message you can do what you want and we will sign you back or pay you. If a manager lets one of his staff take the P1ss its odds on more will do the same. Now Andy has to get them all guns blazing because Welling have just blown a tremendous chance to put the pressure on those clinging on to the playoffs. Lets see if Andy can get them going and if any of the players give a t0ss. If they dont then sling them out END OF STORY. Andy is STILL the man for the job and i think all or most of us believe that. But you cant let the players take the p1ss and then when they play shyte and they get some stick. Dont slag the customer off. Sort the product out that they are paying for.
Dont give up but agree with Matt that weve just possibly blown a glorious opportunity. On reflecting the season no doubt the management will say 10th is good. FORGET that the team went missing a few weeks ago and then decided to BOTTLE it when it came down to it.
Andy sort them out and dont let the players (only a few) take the p1ss out of you, the two Hobbins and the fans. The rest of the players who have performed well for a lot of the time keep performing and drag those that couldnt give a fck up off the floor and demand more.
Keep pulling it aint over yet.
-- Edited by JgFc on Sunday 29th of March 2009 11:14:20 PM
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Sounds as though we didn't raise it like at AFC - big questions have to be asked why? With the play offs in sight I can't understand it, surely that's motivation enough.
Perhaps our squad isn't big enough or the young age could be a factor?
I don't think we've gone 6 games all season without losing and I can't remember when we've put a couple of wins together (apart from christmas). To get in the play offs we need to go unbeaten for 6 games. A big ask.
1) 2 weeks ago 6 points out of those thrre games would have been deemed a good return. If the results had been in a different order we'd have probably been a little more positive at this point.
2) Some crap\inefficient performances earlier in the season (Braintree\Basingstoke away for example) have piled the pressure on the end of the season to get results if you are going to make the play offs. If we were 'good' enough to get those results, realistically, I don't see us winning the number of games we need to out of the last 7. we probably wouldn't have had those results earlier on.
3) Annoyingly, this will count as a missed opportunity as the Chelmsford bandwagon appears to have turned into an Austin Maxi!
4) How to motivate a side that has just been denied what you are going for. Easy, I'm afraid. You merely encourage them to make sure we do not get what they cannot have.
5) I don't think we were any more dire than we were at Basingstoke, Maidenhead just had players who could capitalise where Basingstoke could not.
6) Nature abhors a vacuum. If I could have seen anyone on the pitch\bench getting stuck into\trying to raise their fellow man I'd have a lot more sympathy for those who think Matt is out of order. We were probably poorer at Hednesford for the first 30 minutes than we were at Maidenhead but players and management rectified what was wrong and the spirit\effort was there. That didn't happen Saturday. It didn't take much to get a more positive reaction as was shown after 85 minutes when some decent play engendered an improved crowd reaction.
7) For those of us have been around ages we have witnessed good teams with good effort, tripe teams with good effort, tripe teams with no effort and good teams with questionable effort and they aren't difficult to spot either on a day to day or season to season basis. And I can tell you the latter is by far the most annoying.
Who has criticised the fans? I hope not Andy who has already made the faux pas of demanding more turn up through the gate while he himself had missed a few games while being here.
It looks like despite Andy being a very good manager over all, he doesnt know when the staff and possible even the supporters need some gentle encouragemnt or need to be roughly man handled and headbutted to knock them into shape.
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After two brilliant performances it really was back down to earth with a bump. I dont know why but we just didnt perform, now I can take that as even Man U cant play well 100% off the time. The thing that got to me the most though was the lack of fight and passion in such an important game, with Chelmsford losing it was our opportunity to grab 3 points back on them
As it turned the team that CANT even make the play offs, the team that WOULD give there left arm to have a shot at the play offs played with more passion,deternimation, creativty than the team WITH a chance of the play offs and that for me was what pissed me off the most about Sat game.
As I have said before though this is a good young Welling side and hopefully we will learn from this although I fear that this result may have destructed our play off chances this year.
