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According to the official site will take place this Thursday...come on, guesses on the compo...

I'll start the bidding at 5k

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22k

20% sell on

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So what happens if the tribunal gives a figure that Stortford cannot afford what do we do to get the money

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My prediction is that it will be cancelled because of the weather.

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£11,000 - £15,000 with a 33 per cent sell-on clause - backdated with interest!

Stortford have to pay - one way or another.  And I don't think we should accept a staged award considering they have had him for free for more than half a season.  

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Stortford have let two more players go since the turn of the year for budgetary reasons, and are second bottom of the form table and dropping like a stone in league places ... my guess is that they arent flush with money at the moment. I do hope the Hobbins have the wisdom to raise the "how will they pay it" issue once there.

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I've read on a number of forums that Teddy's boy will be leaving Stortford as soon as the white smoke emanates from the tribunal meeting. That being the case, it might be a good idea for Welling to try to persuade the FA to insist that any transfer monies due to Stortford are diverted to Welling direct otherwise there's a very real danger, I would have thought, that Stortford might find any number of alternative ways to spend it which may not include sending it to Welling....

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Well do we bank the money, for next season war chest, as we seem to have a good squard, also with the weather we may see Lawson back ?.......
Don't think Storfords fans know about Thursday

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Stortford fans have been moaning on their forum all season about the lack of information from their club. Until today, that is, when this appeared in the Herts/Essex Observer-

http://www.hertsandessexobserver.co.uk/hertsandessexobserver-sport/displayarticle.asp?id=476269

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name & dob wrote:

Well do we bank the money, for next season war chest, as we seem to have a good squard, also with the weather we may see Lawson back ?.......
Don't think Storfords fans know about Thursday


I would suggest that we need to get real about any monies the tribunal may award.  In my opinion far from providing funds for players this or next season it will go to ensure the survival of the club this season.  Compared to last year, when we weren't exactly flush, our current average attendances generate not far short of £1k per match less, we are without a main sponsor and we don't have the £10K WSU put into the playing budget.  I can't see the tribunal awarding anything like the 35K or so shortfall from these areas alone.

 



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Peter Foster (Chelmsford City) makes a strong, albeit speculative, point about transfer dosh arising if Charlie moves on to another club once the Tribunal makes a ruling.

I would have thought that he could not go anywhere unless monies due from the original transfer from Welling are paid in full to the Wings?  I'm not certain about this, so perhaps somebody could explain whether or not this would be the case?

Also, if there is a remote possibility that he moves to another club in this January's transfer window, I would hope that the Wings insist on a fairly hefty sell-on clause.  And could not that money be paid directly to the Wings by the buying club?  The one problem with sell-on clauses is that you get "b-all" if the subsequent transfer fee is less than that set by the Tribunal.

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My sources tell me that we will get a 5% sell on clause.
The only snag is that we are going to buy him back from B.Stortford.

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Trigger - top man

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Would someone remind me, what fee welling received for MR KEDWELL also lets not forget the current financial crisis in general.
I believe bishops stortford will get off light.
Mr HOBBINS must insist on full payment without delay whatever the outcome of tribunal.
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DK-we got £12k for Kedwell.

My thoughts are that we will get £4-5k ,bearing in mind that he was only here one season and we can hardly say we were fundimental in his development.

Whatever we get it should go straight into the bank-we have no sponor, gates are falling and we haven't played in a while and I suspect released messrs King and Johnson due to budget.

I think as a club and like many others and others business we are finding things hard.

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peter foster wrote:

I've read on a number of forums that Teddy's boy will be leaving Stortford as soon as the white smoke emanates from the tribunal meeting. That being the case, it might be a good idea for Welling to try to persuade the FA to insist that any transfer monies due to Stortford are diverted to Welling direct otherwise there's a very real danger, I would have thought, that Stortford might find any number of alternative ways to spend it which may not include sending it to Welling....


He left us for them to be nearer his home, not for financial reasons, so why would he want to leave?

 



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£11,000 - £15,000 with a 33 per cent sell-on clause - backdated with interest!

Stortford have to pay - one way or another.  And I don't think we should accept a staged award considering they have had him for free for more than half a season.  


Is he on contract there? 33% of nothing is ....

 



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Surely as he weren't a product of our own development or youth academy, we aren't entitiled to a sell on clause?

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Sometimes I am amazed at the rush to suggest a "reasonable fee" for Charlie which, unintentionally, can only give comfort to Stortford.  Today, our Club's representatives will be at a Tribunal trying to get as much as they can for a player who was our leading goalscorer and who is now leading goalscorer for Stortford and a leading goalscorer in Conference South. 

Much has been made of the argument that he was with us for a season and that compensation should reflect that.  But in that season his development improved so much that he became our leading goalscorer and one of the highest scorers in Conference South.  Do not forget that.

Of course, others will say scoring goals does not count.  But not so long ago in a story in the NLP, Stortford seemed to be worried that Charlie's goalscoring prowess would be reflected in a Tribunal ruling.  And ever since the cry has gone out that he scored five of those goals against Weymouth.  So bloody what?  He scored those goals, and he has scored a lot more goals too.

Because of the delay in arranging a hearing to discuss a fee for Charlie, Stortford has enjoyed his services for more than half a season.  His goals, at one stage, had them challenging for the play-offs.  His goals may now keep them out of the relegation zone.  His two goals condemned us to defeat at PVR - goals from a player for whom we had, and still have, to receive compensation.

Speculation, I know, but there is a strong rumour that we received an offer of £8,000 for Charlie.  This, I think, has to be reflected in the Tribunal ruling. 

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Danson Mark wrote:

peter foster wrote:

I've read on a number of forums that Teddy's boy will be leaving Stortford as soon as the white smoke emanates from the tribunal meeting. That being the case, it might be a good idea for Welling to try to persuade the FA to insist that any transfer monies due to Stortford are diverted to Welling direct otherwise there's a very real danger, I would have thought, that Stortford might find any number of alternative ways to spend it which may not include sending it to Welling....


He left us for them to be nearer his home, not for financial reasons, so why would he want to leave?

 



To get paid? To play in a team which hasn't lost 14 first team players this season with more seemingly following on each week? To play in a team which doesn't boast just three first team strikers - himself, Bertie Brayley and Roy Esandoah?



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Settled 6.5k and 25% of sell on. Crap fee but good sell on

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We got less than we turned down for him from stortford and theyve had him over half a season. The good thing is hes attracting offers from league clubs so there sould be a few bob to come if he goes. Its still not a good fee.

Food for thought with tieing up Andrews, Parky and others on contracts so we dont get nothing and have to replace them.

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chelwing


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When will get the money though?

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This year, next year, sometime, never....

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£6,500 isn't a lot and the 25% is ok IF he goes for more than 15k

Do we have to pay tax on any sell on fees?

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For one year and the fact that he was out of contract and it was Palace that did most of the development work with him rather than us - I am not surprised that this is the sum they came to - I thought 5k. Remember that this is not a transfer fee - he was out of contract - just compensation for the work we put in to him during the year.

I assume that Stortford will want a higher fee for him now they have to give us 25% - may price him out of a move.

Personally I wouldn't pay much for him. Many of the Stortford supporters think he is lazy and can't hold up the ball - I wouldn't argue too much with that analyis. Not sure he has scored in months (unlike his dad!!!).

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Take your point, put cant see it pricing him out of a move ... Stortford are skint as anything, they will be forced to say yes, even if reluctantly, if an offer comes in.

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In addition, great time to play them later this month ... they are going to struggle to raise an XI the way it is going !!

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Personally I wouldn't pay much for him. Many of the Stortford supporters think he is lazy and can't hold up the ball - I wouldn't argue too much with that analyis. Not sure he has scored in months (unlike his dad!!!).

DeJa Vu - I remarked eons ago that he needed to add weight to his fragile frame to hold the ball on his chest and not have it bounce off.
I still think that he is a poacher like Lineker and could do well in our League or Conference Premier, but going further than that - sorry , not convinced.
Why did League teams get rid of him then?

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The fact that he played against us (and scored against us!) while we hadn't received any sort of payment is just an effing joke.
Charlie's gone, let's move on.

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I'm my view, the compansation is "so so", but I would be over the moon if we got £3k from a January sell on!



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WE GET £65OO FOR CHARLIE AND ON THE SAME DAY BROMLEY TOLD TO PAY £3000 PLUS 25% OF A SELL ON FEE TO ERITH TOWN FOR CASSIUS MARCUS.hmm

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Charlie scored 24ish goals in all comps for us last season. He has 14 recorded for Bish Storf this season. How many has our top scorer got.....?  I`d have him back any time. He did pretty well for us. I`m not going to slag him because he didn`t stay. How many players are loyal to one club these days... NONE!!

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I have no doubt he will score goals at our level but can not see him progressing higher than Conference South. £6500 is a lot of money for a conference south player.

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Could play Conference Premier with the right breaks.


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