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Also as leader of Dartford Borough Council and director of the football club isn't he diverting taxpayers money for his own interest.


Jeremy is a great man if you support Dartford. Anyway it was not just him who built the stadium, and of course he is not diverting taxpayers money. Are you against the the new judo club (cost £4 million), the money being spent by the council on the town park or the money given to keep the Orchard theatre going or anything else they might do to try and improve the recreation options for the people of the area. It's strange that some people only seem to mention the football ground, and I hope the Green in your name is not the colour of the eyes that you appear to be looking through. 

 



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And Mr Kyte (Kite?) had a Beatles' song dedicated to him!

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Now Now, he may be rotund, but a walrus?

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There is one thing for sure he is not a real no where man he is everywhere.

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Oh do wake up at the back "....the celebrated Mr Kyte" etc with a show on trampoline.  You must all have been babies or just a twinkle in your dads' eyes.

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Bertie was that post for the benefit of Mr Kyte?

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Am I the only Welling fan who would be pleased if Dartford do well next season?
I would like to see them together with Ebbsfleet and Bromley joining the Wings in the top six in the division.  If that were to happen, the gates for the local derby games between the clubs would be very big and all four clubs would benefit.

And if one of them can join us in getting promoted , I would be the first to congratulate them.  It would be handy to have a couple of derby games in the BSP.

I would be even happier if Woking ended up being relegated.  Well we all need someone to hate don't we?

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No i hate Dartford, they are basically a club that went busto that are ONLY back because they have a free stadium, hardly any rent, a councillor on the board. Revenue streams because they have been gifted this all on a plate. They are basically a southern league ryman team as the last decades show. Plus their fans all believe they are giants of the game with a divine right to win this league.

Id much rather Woking won the league than Council FC and i detest both clubs.

Of all the games next season as long as we beat Dartford, Dover, Woking, Chelmsford, Stortford, all home and away 6-0 i will be happy. Anything less will be unacceptable.




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I still say that Kite is an egotist and that he still hasn't done enough to improve dartford town centre due to being in the pocket of tesco.

He is diverting taxpayers money, as the money from my council tax went into building the stadium. The money should have been used on improving the town centre than in building a ground for a private company (Dartford FC).

Also i am not green with envy. If you look at some of my previous posts I have also said that i dont believe that Bexley Council should subsidise Welling either.

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Dartford Fan wrote:

greenhithewing wrote:

Also as leader of Dartford Borough Council and director of the football club isn't he diverting taxpayers money for his own interest.


Jeremy is a great man if you support Dartford. Anyway it was not just him who built the stadium, and of course he is not diverting taxpayers money. Are you against the the new judo club (cost £4 million), the money being spent by the council on the town park or the money given to keep the Orchard theatre going or anything else they might do to try and improve the recreation options for the people of the area. It's strange that some people only seem to mention the football ground, and I hope the Green in your name is not the colour of the eyes that you appear to be looking through. 

 


Great man if you support Dirtford, and of course I would love someone like that at Welling, but no-one can dispute its a massive advantage over most teams at our level.

He is diverting money from taxpayers, where else did the money come from, his own pocket ?? Its a good project for the Dirtford people and well worth it of course, but it has clearly come from the taxpayer.

Oh, and on a lighter note, yes, £4 million on Judo is a waste seeing as its a minority sport.

 



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Oh, and on a lighter note, yes, £4 million on Judo is a waste seeing as its a minority sport.

 

 


I wouldn't even call it a sport. If it is, then so are pub fights!

 



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As a Maidstone fan living in Dartford I am often amused by the crap that Dartford get regarding their stadium. For some reason I seem to know more about their arrangments than most of their fans!

Firstly, Greenhithewing, rest assured knowing that none of the money you paid in council tax went into the building of Princes Park - this was ring-fenced money paid by local developers specifically for the provision of community facilities (along with grants from other sources). With regards the rent, its complicated as money goes in both directions, but suffice to say that Dartford FC do pay money to the Council each year in return for the use of the stadium and also have to ensure the facilities are available for use by the local community at subsidised rates.

Where I do agree with most is Mr Kite - whilst I'm sure he is doing nothing wrong, somebody in his position should be whiter than white and this is clearly not the case.

As for the strikers, worry not - we have had both Pugh and Cumbers on loan over the past couple of seasons and you have 2 of the best prospects in Kent football. Pugh is the more intelligent footballer of the 2, but Cumbers is a more natural goalscorer. Mr Hessanthaler has made many mistakes over the past few weeks and letting them go is 2 of his biggest. For my money, both will get more goals than Sheringham next season.

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No i hate Dartford, they are basically a club that went busto that are ONLY back because they have a free stadium, hardly any rent, a councillor on the board. Revenue streams because they have been gifted this all on a plate. They are basically a southern league ryman team as the last decades show. Plus their fans all believe they are giants of the game with a divine right to win this league.

Id much rather Woking won the league than Council FC and i detest both clubs.

Of all the games next season as long as we beat Dartford, Dover, Woking, Chelmsford, Stortford, all home and away 6-0 i will be happy. Anything less will be unacceptable.




-- Edited by JgFc on Thursday 24th of June 2010 04:52:11 AM


Gravesham council paid £600,000 last season to buy Ebbsfleet's ground, they charge a peppercorn rent of £1 a year. Also the worlds richest club Man City play in a council owned stadium.

The great thing about the non league game is the friendly rivalry,  the ability to enjoy a pint and a chat with the opposition fans. Win lose or draw the majority of non league fans are honest about who were the better team on the day.

You sir are the exception to the rule, which makes me wonder if you actualy go to any games? You take every opportunity to belittle others on this and other forums.

Dartford fans do NOT think we have a divine right to win this league, the vast majority know full well we will have a tough season, and will be more than happy to consolidate our position in the league. I have not met one that thinks we will win it, so its a big surprise to see your comments. 

Playing budgets would be based on average gates, nothing BBB about that but the fact remains Dartfords gates are twice that of Wellings so it would be true that our budget may well be bigger. Saying that, its no guarantee of success having a bigger budget.

Welling are vastly experienced in this league, dartford are not but you can bang on all you like about dartford being a ryman team but thats not the case anymore.

I will be looking forward to the coming season, its great that there is so many kent derbies, im not a bitter, i think its good for kentish football.


 



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Gravesham council paid £600,000 last season to buy Ebbsfleet's ground, they charge a peppercorn rent of £1 a year. Also the worlds richest club Man City play in a council owned stadium.

The great thing about the non league game is the friendly rivalry,  the ability to enjoy a pint and a chat with the opposition fans. Win lose or draw the majority of non league fans are honest about who were the better team on the day.

You sir are the exception to the rule, which makes me wonder if you actualy go to any games? You take every opportunity to belittle others on this and other forums.

Dartford fans do NOT think we have a divine right to win this league, the vast majority know full well we will have a tough season, and will be more than happy to consolidate our position in the league. I have not met one that thinks we will win it, so its a big surprise to see your comments. 

Playing budgets would be based on average gates, nothing BBB about that but the fact remains Dartfords gates are twice that of Wellings so it would be true that our budget may well be bigger. Saying that, its no guarantee of success having a bigger budget.

Welling are vastly experienced in this league, dartford are not but you can bang on all you like about dartford being a ryman team but thats not the case anymore.

I will be looking forward to the coming season, its great that there is so many kent derbies, im not a bitter, i think its good for kentish football.



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I noticed you have changed your original post with its references to Dartford being a pub team.
Maybe you could do a post on Wellings history, how they were a pub team untill 1977 and enlighten us how they got to play at Park view road in the 1st place. Wasn't it the home of the now defunct Bexley United. How did you put it now! "only back because we got a free stadium" How did you get yours?

P.S I do read the BSS forum where you constantly ridicule. Looking forward to the Welling history post!

 



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Welling 14 years in conference or that should be just under 33% of their history.
Did all this without rolling up trouser legs and having Dartfords HUGE budget and Council Stadium.
How many years have Dartford played in the conference and conference south by the way? Welling have for the last 25 years over half of the time they have been in existance.

Where have you been for a quarter of a century please. We dont seem to have met all that often since we left you behind decades ago.

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Have a look at what you could have won.

Dartford fans seem to be seething and have chips on their shoulders. I admire the confidence, but i say again where have you been for 25 years?

We have had to have Maidscum, Dover, Fisher and Bromley as local rivals. As our standard seems to have been somewhat beyond your grasp for decades.



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Crawley Town another club who play in a conferance standard stadium built by their local council. I think years ago their council also spent money on their old ground at Town Mead.
Yes Dartford are doing well at the moment and a lot of it is down to Princes Park, they were very lucky to get it, and it happened at the right time, as a matter of fact it must be doubtful that they would still be going if it had not happened. Even Maidstone fans don't seem to sledge it as much as some others do, and look what situation they are in.

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Welling 14 years in conference or that should be just under 33% of their history.
Did all this without rolling up trouser legs and having Dartfords HUGE budget and Council Stadium.
How many years have Dartford played in the conference and conference south by the way? Welling have for the last 25 years over half of the time they have been in existance.

Where have you been for a quarter of a century please. We dont seem to have met all that often since we left you behind decades ago.

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Have a look at what you could have won.

Dartford fans seem to be seething and have chips on their shoulders. I admire the confidence, but i say again where have you been for 25 years?

We have had to have Maidscum, Dover, Fisher and Bromley as local rivals. As our standard seems to have been somewhat beyond your grasp for decades.



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Didn't really think you would answer the question, thats not really your style is it.
The club from the borough of Greenwich that squatted in Bexley united's ground like pikies! lucky heather JgFC. 

Did you roll  up your trouser legs and build your own ground? nah 25 years in the conference and you have not spent a bean on improvements. 
You thought Crayford was in the borough of Dartford, which shows how much you know.
So you paid sod all for your ground which was built by another team, and yet your obsessed with knocking others, ironic isn't it.

  



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Welling 14 years in conference or that should be just under 33% of their history.
Did all this without rolling up trouser legs and having Dartfords HUGE budget and Council Stadium.
How many years have Dartford played in the conference and conference south by the way? Welling have for the last 25 years over half of the time they have been in existance.

Where have you been for a quarter of a century please. We dont seem to have met all that often since we left you behind decades ago.

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Have a look at what you could have won.

Dartford fans seem to be seething and have chips on their shoulders. I admire the confidence, but i say again where have you been for 25 years?

We have had to have Maidscum, Dover, Fisher and Bromley as local rivals. As our standard seems to have been somewhat beyond your grasp for decades.



-- Edited by JgFc on Friday 25th of June 2010 11:37:32 PM


Lets have a look at this post and assume it's not just a wind up. Here are some answers.

1. No one is saying that Welling have not done well over the years to play in the conference like they did.
2. You can't put the blame on Dartford for you being black balled, and do you realy know for sure that Dartford has a huge budget. If so what is it?
3. They had one season in the old Alliance Premier League, and two in the Gola League finishing 3rd in the first year when John Still was manager.
4. Since the club reformed in 1993 they have ground shared at Cray W, then Erith & B, Thurrock, Gravesend, Thurrock again until the opening of Princes Park, and they also played one home game at Barking after the fire at Erith. 
5."Our standards seems to of been somewhat beyond your grasp for decades"
That's very true without our own ground we could not progress and did well to stay in the Southern league. But of course that has changed now. Could this be that's why you seem a bit anti Dartford, another team for you to be in the shadow of beside the one over Shooters Hill, Yes the Darts are back three cheers for Jeremey and DBC and God save the Queen. 

 



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Welling 14 years in conference or that should be just under 33% of their history.
Did all this without rolling up trouser legs and having Dartfords HUGE budget and Council Stadium.
How many years have Dartford played in the conference and conference south by the way? Welling have for the last 25 years over half of the time they have been in existance.

Where have you been for a quarter of a century please. We dont seem to have met all that often since we left you behind decades ago.

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Have a look at what you could have won.

Dartford fans seem to be seething and have chips on their shoulders. I admire the confidence, but i say again where have you been for 25 years?

We have had to have Maidscum, Dover, Fisher and Bromley as local rivals. As our standard seems to have been somewhat beyond your grasp for decades.



-- Edited by JgFc on Friday 25th of June 2010 11:37:32 PM


Didn't really think you would answer the question, thats not really your style is it.
The club from the borough of Greenwich that squatted in Bexley united's ground like pikies! lucky heather JgFC. 

Did you roll  up your trouser legs and build your own ground? nah 25 years in the conference and you have not spent a bean on improvements. 
You thought Crayford was in the borough of Dartford, which shows how much you know.
So you paid sod all for your ground which was built by another team, and yet your obsessed with knocking others, ironic isn't it.

  





Ironic isnt it that Welling spent a substantial sum on the new stand AND got funding for it from the football foundation (Erith spent less than half) . Ironic isnt it that welling spent a substantial sum on the new floodlights (Erith spent NIL) , ironic isnt it that Welling spent a substantial sum on the crush barriers, ironic isnt it that welling spent a substantial sum putting in a second floor for administration and executive lounge.

Not bad for not spending a bean on the ground. If you are going to have a dig at least be correct.

Get your own patter please lucky heather etc and council fc and free ground are all aimed at Dirtford. Have some originality. lets be fair you have been gypsies for decades. I see this reincarnation of Dirtford as Dirtford Council FC (The Plasticos) .

Nothing more nothing less and its odds on that it will all end in tears for you all. At least you will have some excitement on the way. If you dont like it then you should realise, this is a Welling Forum not a Dartford Love in.













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The club from the borough of Greenwich that squatted in Bexley united's ground. 

You thought Crayford was in the borough of Dartford, which shows how much you know.

  
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I think its sad that we have a whole 2 pages of posts on Dartford new striker, In my opinion we have signed 2 better players the CS, but I dont see other clubs forum haveing threads on them so why should we worry about what other clubs do, I know I have mentioned Dratford alot in recent posts but my point being which is mainly aimed at JGFC we should not be little them or take them lightly they have a bigger fan base than us and will POSSIBLY have a good season and little jibes at them will only make them try and eat your words

Lets just let the football do the talking come April 2011 we will see who was the better team

This as been one of the best close seasons for the wings for many a year with the signings and information coming out to us the supporters I do think we may need one or 2 other signings maybe not now but during the course of the season just to cover any poteintal injuries but I am sure Mr Day knows what he wants and act acordingly



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FK ME hes at it again. about Dartford being a bigger club and better.

Ban him hes just a stirrer, this is a welling forum, if this happened on other clubs they would remove it.

Click his profile, then view his posts. This is a Joke, look if Dartford are that much bigger and better. FK off and go watch them.

And yes, Pugh is better than Poundnote. Well spotted.

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Wings63 (the irony in that name), Vestan pants is a new poster. Hmmm let me guess couldnt be possible its one of the dartford fans that have joined here could it?

I dont see any Welling Fans joining and posting on Council FCs forum, wonder why? Could be that we couldnt give a toss about them. The postings on the BSS have been after posters such as TOP DARTER, GRASSBANK, DARTANIAN start shouting off about how big their clubs is. Dont make out Council FC is being picked on, its mostly as responses to bilge posted by Council FC fans waving their maggots.

Wings63 you are starting to annoy me, its taken some time. But to be fair, you post utter bollox continually and anti welling stuff and pro dartford almost exclusively. Now run along.

And please have some brains and dont go all tree hugger on me saying Miss Miss JgFc is representing Welling again...., this is not Welling United saying this, Or its Manager or any of its players, Or any of its sponsors, Or the pidgeons ****ting in the stand or The borough of Bexley, its Mayor, Kate Bush, Lee from Blue or This Forum or the Fan Base of Welling United...

ITS ME SAYING IT.



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I think its sad that we have a whole 2 pages of posts on Dartford new striker.

If it was any old striker nobody would have been that bothered. It is because this actual player said leaving Welling was because he wanted to go to a club nearer his home as he was concentrating on a new career in the city. Maybe it didn't pan out. 

 



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JGFC Do you think your posts help Welling get new supporters through the door, I am a welling fan and have been for many years but really with your attitude do wonder why I bother and I am sure any new supportes reading this may feel the same

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Wings63

You bore me to tears with your posts, i am not stupid and i would hope most welling fans arent either.

You must have issues and severe doubts about Dirtford, its nice to see that Welling concern you so much. You should be worried.

I think on most other forums you would be removed for constant anti Welling Posts, i seem to remember problems with you before on here. There was an anonymous poster who posted pretty much the same as you do constantly.

I actually dribbled p1ss at the Miss Miss JgFc is stopping People going to matches.

Unless you are banned i cant be bothered posting on here. Its a Welling Forum and you and a few Dartford fans are C***s of the highest order.





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Just for the record JGFC, I have been a Welling United supporter for almost 30 years - yes I am a new poster but thought Welling fans might be interested in a piece of news regarding an ex player.

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No Worries mr pance.

We are being infiltrated by Dirtford fans and they arent very friendly are they on what they are posting.



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IMO Wings63 has stated the obvious ie that Dartford (and Ebbsfleet come to that) have a distinct financial advantage over other clubs who don't own their ground by virtue of minimal ground rent and thus gate money does not have to meet this cost and that Dartford have a much higher supporter base than Welling. He obviously has a degree of interest in what happens at Princes Park and garners some information about what is going on there but are stating the obvious and in the past passing on what he has heard anti Welling?

Where I would disagree with Wings63 is that the views of one supporter would have the impact of stopping other people supporting the Club. Dartanians attempt to substantiate this with a facebook group from several years ago which had 6 or was it 7 members (from 500 or so supporters) and effectively died within days is surely evidence of this. All Clubs have supporters whose honestly held views and opinions (and I dare say prejudices) are regarded as controversial and/or provocative by the majority. What actually draws support is surely what happens on the pitch, how well the Club is run and in such a materialistic world how good the facilities are.

As far as supporters posting on rival Clubs fora this too happens all the time and I'm sure many posters on this forum are registered and/or have posted on other clubs fora.

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Bruno i would suggest the overwhelming percentage of his posts are negative about welling, pro dartford and repetetive. I am not alone in remarking about it on this forum.

I would put it to you that if you posted like him on other clubs sites you wouldnt last long.

In most posts its always putting welling down and saying Dartford are better, bigger, will get better players etc etc.

He is no Welling Supporter. Just a nuisance and stirrer.

Dartanian is just a prick behind anonymity, what a brave man he is.


-- Edited by JgFc on Monday 28th of June 2010 11:16:58 AM

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The only thing i will say to Wings63, is that he should do something about his obvious obsession with Dartford and concentrate on Welling only. His constant going on about Dartford ever since Jamie took over last year is boring to read. How about some positivity about the Wings for a change?

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Vestan Pance wrote:

Just for the record JGFC, I have been a Welling United supporter for almost 30 years - yes I am a new poster but thought Welling fans might be interested in a piece of news regarding an ex player.


Many of us are interested in nuggets of news about former Welling United players. As far as I am concerned please carry on!!

 



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