cj wrote:

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Im glad the Hobbins are running the club well and not chasing the dream. Oh hang on!

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 Hobbins and chase in the same sentence... surely too much effort!

JgFc wrote:

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oooh ****, as long as weve had some excitement on the way.

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most definetly have but potential for no more in the future.....

 

How about contacting some celebrities for some fundraising help:


Finnan
Townsend
Bush
Ecclestone

Need to sort out who's club it is first.

How many people knew of a potential sale? Not many I'd suggest. The prevailing ethos has always been that we support 'their' club, which would seem to be borne out but the fact the information has only come out at a point of last resort.

I don't see how that situation could persist if general fund raising effort was required. Bearing in mind it was oft quoted that they would fold the club rather than go in the Ryman I can quite see our situation being more akin to Gaydamak than Southend or Cardiff.

It is a merry mess that we all need more information on if we are to assist, however I have no illusions a solution will be easy.

To be honest i don't think they could care less about us.

Bexley will be looking to make 20-25% savings so I can't see this being high on their list of priorites. I certainly doubt that thay would want to throw any money at us. It is also a situation that is not of their making. Their only worry wouild be loss of income from the rent/Council tax.

I suspect that we are in this on our own.

I must admit that I think Stafford make a good point above. The fact that none of us seem to have any idea that this was coming is disapointing. I wonder if Jamie and the players knew. Would they all have signed if they knew?

Shambolic ,clueless and devoid of ideas,what makes anyone think the Hobbins can get out of this mess,even the person buying the club does a runner.

I believe some decent cup runs would be very important now. Just a thought, isn't the reopening of the clubshop on Saturday going to be a rather odd affair, what with the chairman presiding over the reopening? 'Where's the money gone?' etc.

I know we can all pick holes in the way that the Club has been run - the lack of a commercial department being one example. However I have loads of sympathy with the Hobbins. This must be a really tough time for them. This is their livelihood. The fact that they may have wanted to downgrade their home is probably an indication of how tough it is for them.

I hope we can all pull together to get us out of this mess.

But we must have the full story given to us about what the situtaion is. We can't be asking people to support the club financially if they don't know the full facts.

One way to save money would have been to email season ticket holders the letter rather than paying postage on a 100 odd letters.



-- Edited by chelwing on Thursday 12th of August 2010 03:03:20 PM

Thanks for the info Bruno :)

This is a monster fact as unlike some clubs who want to pay 9p in the £ to creditors we have paid a substantial amount of debt back in one go.

Could help in rasing money too obviously that we found 30k to reduce the debt.

Well we know it couldn't have been more than £99,999 before the £30,000 was paid to HMRC, so things will be looking significantly better now.

chelwing wrote:

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I know we can all pick holes in the way that the Club has been run - the lack of a commercial department being one example. However I have loads of sympathy with the Hobbins. This must be a really tough time for them. This is their livelihood. The fact that they may have wanted to downgrade their home is probably an indication of how tough it is for them.

I hope we can all pull together to get us out of this mess.

But we must have the full story given to us about what the situtaion is. We can't be asking people to support the club financially if they don't know the full facts.

One way to save money would have been to email season ticket holders the letter rather than paying postage on a 100 odd letters.



-- Edited by chelwing on Thursday 12th of August 2010 03:03:20 PM

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agree

please no digs in that direction

 

J wrote:

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chelwing wrote:

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I know we can all pick holes in the way that the Club has been run - the lack of a commercial department being one example. However I have loads of sympathy with the Hobbins. This must be a really tough time for them. This is their livelihood. The fact that they may have wanted to downgrade their home is probably an indication of how tough it is for them.

I hope we can all pull together to get us out of this mess.

But we must have the full story given to us about what the situtaion is. We can't be asking people to support the club financially if they don't know the full facts.

One way to save money would have been to email season ticket holders the letter rather than paying postage on a 100 odd letters.



-- Edited by chelwing on Thursday 12th of August 2010 03:03:20 PM

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agree

please no digs in that direction

 

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You do not find out how you are going to solve the problem without first examining all parts of the problem. Life is not easy running a club of this size at any time, let alone in the current economic climate.

I am fully aware this is their livelihood but it is obviously not working for them either at the moment. It is not a dig to point out that stances that may have proved sustainable when you are not in the shiddle rapidly cease to be so when the boat has a neutron star growing in the hull.

They obviously do not currently have an evident path out of this now otherwise this wouldn't have happened, I'm presuming they do want a path out that doesn't involve liquidation and that is going to involve doing things that couldn't or wouldn't have been done before..... otherwise, logically, they would have done them.

And anyway, smugness never paid the bills!

Getting away with certain methods is easier when you havent got a tracer missile honing in on your arsehole.

I wish I hadn't asked now

First, very well done for finding this.

Second, and this could be good news, only HMRC are quoted in the case as the creditors(?).

Hopefully no one else is involved.

There is no doubt that this news has come as a major bombshell to all of us supporters.  Although everyone knew that budgets were tight, I'm sure that none of us would have guessed the sort of figures that are revealed in the club's letter to season ticket holders.

I can understand that some supporters are reluctant to part with cash without further details of the circumstances but time is of the essence.  I think this is the time that we, the fans, need to stand up and be counted.  I have supported the club for over 30 years and in that time I have never known the Hobbins to ask for donations of money from the supporters as they are doing now.

My guess is that the only way to stop the winding up petition from progressing into a winding up order is for all or most of the debt to HMRC being paid by the club before the hearing on the 25th.  With no immediate buyer for the club in prospect, it seems that the best chance of making such a payment will be if the fans are prepared to come to its assistance.  I see that there are over 700 registered members on this forum.  Even if 10% or so of these are not Wings supporters, this still leaves over 600 who are.  If the great majority of these were to make a donation within the next few days of the highest sum they could pay without missing it, I'm sure this would be enough to clear a large percentage of the debt.  I realise for many it's a bad time for this to be happening but I'm sure none of us want Welling to be the next Kings Lynn (wound up) or Northwich (long term administration and relegated several divisions). 

I think it's time for us to stand up and be counted.  A four figure gate on Saturday would help.  Jamie has put together the best squad we have had for years and with less travelling, more local derbies and fewer clashes with Charlton the club can expect to find this season easier financially.

Let's all help in getting over this hurdle and we can still have a great season.

er they didnt pay the tax bill and some businessmen said he will pay the debts and take over and has done as runner.

cant change the past, can make sure it doesnt happen again and help sort the winding up petition.

-- Edited by JgFc on Thursday 12th of August 2010 05:39:10 PM