Kick off your slippers and put out the cigars. The adjournment two weeks ago didn't signify it was time to relax, it signified the opposite.
WE HAVE 12 WEEKS TO RAISE 60 GRAND.
I REPEAT, WE HAVE 12 WEEKS TO RAISE 60 GRAND.
If that wasn't hard enough there is the possibility, abeit remote, that the club could go eight weeks without a home game following the Woking match.
A lot of effort has been expended today in posting on here but what has been achieved?
I've read that we the fans have been fabulous... but how fabulous have we been?
Yes we've raised about £9,000, which is fantastic, but half of that was raised on 14th August, almost four weeks ago; the vast majority before the court hearing. It is but a fraction of the total required, a total we were never going to raise from our own pockets.
And so, we need to raise money from outside the four walls of PVR. We need to make sure the band night is full of fans of punk/indie music; we need to fill the quiz nights; we need to get all the local rockabilly fans to the rockabilly night; we need to get West Ham/Charlton/Millwall/Fulham fans to the auction night; we need to put into action all the good ideas, and more, that were posted on here in the aftermath of the winding-up petition.
Now, more than ever, is the time that your club needs you.
100 tickets £5 a pop at the club house and have a disco or dj at the end of it from 930-12.
I can sort out all the races i have hundreds of thousands on my pc from lots of tracks, crayford, hall green, wimbledon, sheffield, monmore, notts and will just give whoever chooses the races to play a DVD with them on and they can play them before each race if they do a draw to see which race number race is played from the say 100 races on the dvd.. AFTER the bets have been placed and the betting is closed..
This saves anyone thinking its hooky.
Then you can sell race sponsorships at £25 or £50 or sell a dog at £5 with the winner getting a bottle of Wine or £10-15 and having the ability to name the dog what they like.
Possibly could earn more this way. Or you can go for the crayford night and have a greyhound night at the club and could get the players involved.
See what people would prefer. The benefits of a clubhouse night is bar and sponsor takings aswell.
-- Edited by JgFc on Friday 10th of September 2010 05:01:34 PM
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And you get like 25% reduction from the tote on the night too from each race. Could easily raise 4 figures if you had a DJ or one of the fans could DJ and hire the equipment.
10 races 15 minute gaps start at 700pm races over 930ish. If you go to the track all you are doing is putting money over their bar and in the bookies pockets. Plus you can run a raffle on the night too.
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Forgot about the Auction night on that date. Have n't booked anything.
A race night at PVR is a fair idea. But its got to be on a sat night after a home game when the bar has not been booked and there is no big 5:30 game in the PL
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It was confirmed at the WSU meeting last night that the auction night planned November has been postponed. As far as I recall a revised date has not yrt been decided upon.
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Forgot about the Auction night on that date. Have n't booked anything.
A race night at PVR is a fair idea. But its got to be on a sat night after a home game when the bar has not been booked and there is no big 5:30 game in the PL
Why does it have to be a Saturday?
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"The worst thing you can do is make a committment and not meet it and I understand that." Barrie Hobbins 14 August 2010
The trouble is none of these ideas, big friendly aside, will raise anywhere near £60k, surely a decision needs to be made in the near future as to whether outside funds are going to be made available in the form of a sponsor or an investor or whether we need to look at seeking to raise some serious money from our existing fanbase be it through the issue of shares or whatever. Everything else will raise £10-15k maybe, which is great but getting us nowhere near what we need.
We do need big fundraising or sponsorships and having a friendly/benefit match is one of the best ways of bringing in big money. 12 weeks left, was 14. People will say it will be hard but unless the club contact all southern premiership or championship clubs you wont know.
These teams have squads of 25 and probably loads more in the ressies. If we got a first team fantastic and we could sell out. If not and we get 3 or 4 names guaranteed to turn up we will get a big crowd. If 2 of them will only send an x1 then take them as thats 2 crowds of 1000 hopefully which will bring in 20k.
Maybe one of the 2 commercial managers could phone round unless they have a better idea for bringing in 20-30k in one hit aim for a big glamour match and see what we get offered. If a club says we will send you a team down with 2 or 3 "stars" then accept in principle and get back to them.
If we raised 20k plus and the club raised others and the commercial manager brought some in , the 63k would come down. As it is its still 63k and people are talking about raising 300 on a gig night. Fantastic for when weve paid the HMRC but we need the big figures to clear the 63k as you arent raising 500 quid 125 times in 12 weeks.
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I agree with all of you...BUT we DO need to know where and if it is likely that the potential outside investors are likely to come to the party
I also agree that it would be nice to know as the figure goes down...
I too am a realist and yes we are all going to do the functions (you lot wait to see what type of auctioneer I will be!!!!) but as Andrew says we will maybe raise another 10 or 15k
That leaves us well short still
Also I would like an update on the commercial managers and what kind of interest and at what kind of money they are getting enquiries.
I think we shouldnt have this kind of information in the public domain (maybe) BUT we all have e mail addresses....we could have a weekly update!!!
If we are talking about a football match....who is contacting the clubs.....
There has been much talk of arranging these glamour friendies but are they actually going to happen? I sadly suspect not, we need help in the form of a big investor or contributor and I think that is the bottom line. The club need to keep us posted as to how much we have raised and what they have planned.
The trouble is none of these ideas, big friendly aside, will raise anywhere near £60k, surely a decision needs to be made in the near future as to whether outside funds are going to be made available in the form of a sponsor or an investor or whether we need to look at seeking to raise some serious money from our existing fanbase be it through the issue of shares or whatever. Everything else will raise £10-15k maybe, which is great but getting us nowhere near what we need.
Seconded-the sooner there is some communication the better, at least we will know whether we have a fighting chance or step on the gas from whatever source
Sitting here in my padded cell I would agree that we do need a substantial amount of money to come in to help our cause ( be it a friendly, large scale investor ect.). What I would point out though is that the quiz nights, music nights and auctions still play a very important part as it allows the club to highlight the fact that it along with the supporters are being proactive in its approach in dealing with the challenges that are being faced.
Not from a padded cell but I agree totally Trigger.
Club Aid 2010 will earn £300 on ticket sales. an amount in excess of that in song sponsorships etc and I would imagine the element which many miss when looking at events organised by WSU and in this case Sy and Patsy the bar takings which are I would suspect likely to exceed £1k for this event.
The net final figure raised will I'm sure be well in excess of £1,000 or about 2% of the outstanding £63K debt. Far from belittling/decrying the efforts of Sy and Patsy we should recognise just how much money will be raised from their efforts and be thanking them.
-- Edited by bruno on Saturday 11th of September 2010 11:35:11 AM
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I agree, all I was pointing out is that we'd need 50 such events within 14 weeks if we don't raise monies elsewhere. I also said that £10-15k from those events was "great"
I agree, all I was pointing out is that we'd need 50 such events within 14 weeks if we don't raise monies elsewhere. I also said that £10-15k from those events was "great"
I stand by my comment.
The initial comment "people are talking about raising 300 on a gig night", which grossly underestimates the revenue which has already been generated without taking into account the bar sales, and what in my opnion are dismissive references (this and other threads) to events which don't raise megabucks again in my opinion belittles the efforts of those voluntarily working their nuts off to generate that income.
There is plenty of talk but when it comes down to it aside from the initial Sponsor the Players Scheme organised by Russ at the first open meeting a month ago which has raised just a tad short of £10,000 at the last count, Club Aid aside, what else has actually been done from the supporter side? FFS we haven't even got the production and more importantly the distribution of flyers sorted.
Again my opinion but I believe that the voluntary efforts of 2 people who are likely to generate 2% of the debt by persuading fellow band members and another band to play for nothing and have managed to sell out the Wings bar warrants better recognition. I appreciate that the big earners aside from Russ's Sponsor The Players Scheme will come from the Club/Commercial Manager (who will be on a percentage) but every penny raised helps and recognition of voluntary effort merits more than a dismissive reference.
I would suggest that at this point in time be saying something like £xyz has been raised by supporters but we are still waiting to hear what the Club has achieved so far. That is not a dig at the Club who have the embargo and meetings with potential investors/sponsors on top of their normal functions to deal with but if, for example, we are to have any chance of a friendly in the remaining period of adjournment this needs to be sorted pdq.
-- Edited by bruno on Sunday 12th of September 2010 11:18:00 AM
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The efforts of people here are fantastic to save a football they love, but this is a drop in the ocean unless we know where we stand. The sooner there is some form of communication the better.
I shuidder to think that the efforts of people fall whoefully short of the amount involved. When I look at what has happened so far to other clubs I am fearfull of what could happen to us unless we come up with what is required.
The efforts made by a few are raising funds. Maybe £50 here and £50 there may not be enough to save the club on its own but surely all contributions are better than nothing. 20 x £50 is a grand, and one grand less for any potential investor to find. Should someone put up £50k all the other money (including the £8k the Conference have held back) could make the difference.
Anyone who is doing anything, no matter how small, should be applauded because apathy will get nowhere.
What we do need is to know that money raised is not good money after bad and that is where there needs to be more regular communication and updates.
