Geoffro.... Thanks for giving us a chance to pay our respects to Stuart...
I think it would be great if this could be an annual event..
how about alternating grounds.... i think more welling fans would attend if it was at welling....
or could it be held pre season.... that way it could be on a saturday which would also encourage more people to attend....

Judie,
          I think they are discussing about holding it pre season and i think it would be a very good idea to hold it alternate years at Welling.  I will suggest it to Tony.
                                       Geoffro

It was nice to meet up with you all, and seeing you do your best on the pitch. We had a great side when you lads played at Welling United, and those memories will always remain with me.
All the best.

Sorry i forgot to mention that i had nothing to do with organising the match i merely passed on the message of thanks. I could'nt make it but it would have been nice to see you again Eric and also the boys.
Geoffro

I have'nt a clue - sorry. However for a small fee (all going to the charity) I am prepared to sit and tell you just how good I was on Friday.

Just as a matter of interest, what was the score last week?

JgFc wrote:

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Copes the DVD, how much will it be and will it all go to the charity.

Is bob keen charging £13 and keeping all/some of the profits? Or making it a reasonable amount and passing all moneys to the kitty.

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I was asked to film the game and did so at cost to myself. Unlike many people that film football matches as a hobby, I do it for a living and consequently cannot afford to run expensive Broadcast Television equipment without charging anything at all. I do provide free highlights of games and other free services and do not expect to sell more than 12 or so copies of this match (if it ever gets produced). Of the £13 charged, £3 is donated to the charities and the remainder goes towards my expenses. I am sure you will easily be able to work out that I will make a loss on these figures and so you see it is not quite as simple as providing the whole thing for nothing. We all have to live.

 

Bob

I cant agree with that sorry, its a Charity game and you havent exactly gone 100 miles to do it (Didnt you used to do Ashford Games). To make £10 a DVD off the back of Stuart White no longer being around i feel is in bad taste.

Rather not get in a row over it , its just how i feel and i would feel thisabout any memorial match.

I did not say I do it to make money. I have demostrated above that it actually costs me money. You still don't seem to understand that. I have not detailed all of the attendant costs involved. I merely metioned deisel as you cited travelling.

As I said, I did not want to film this game. I am in a no win situation. If I had declined to do so, the organisers would have been unhappy and now that I have done so you are unhappy.

My matching offer above is still open. Do you wish to take me up on it?

I have done nothing of the sort. As I said I did originally decline to film this game but was persauded to do so. The illustration below will demonstrate that I have still lost more money than you have contrbuted to the event.

If you would like a complete breakdown of my expenses here they are.

Travelling cost £10.
10 hours studio work to produce DVD £120 (this is time that I otherwise would have been earning and so must count as a cost)
Video tape £5. Tapes are £30 each and can be used 6 times.
Blank DVD media including case and laser printing £1 per DVD (assume 12 sales thus £12)
I hour designing, preparing and printing DVD sleeve £12.
None of the above takes account of the cost of running and maintaining a £20,000 television camera, electriciy, editing equipment etc
I have also not included my time in attending one abortive evening and the second filming evening. This would usually attract a filming fee.
If we therefore add up the above conservative figures we get a total cost of £159. Television cameras have hours recorded on them much like car mileometers.
They must be serviced at the required intervals. Every hour recorded on the camera lessens its value if sold on.

The return (gross) on the projected sale of 12 DVDs would be £120 after deduction of the £3 to the charities.

I have therefore made a loss of more than £39 which would have been £159 if I had done it your way.You do not seem to appreciate the difference between
someone doing this for pleasure and someone having to make a living. As demonstrated, I have not made money but merely limited my losses.

However, if you would like to pledge £159 to Gary Kirton, I will match it. I notice you have not responded to this aspect even though I have now mentioned it 3 times. This suggests my good faith. What about yours?

Chelwing i and others would like to pay for the DVD but not if the money goes to someone earning from it taking money away from the charity.

Thats whats wrong with this country chelwing, someone takes the p1ss and when they are pulled up on it someone comes out hugging trees.

Im out of the discussion. Let people make their own mind up, but theres a lot of exaggeration from Mr Keen on his time and figures, which leave a sour taste.

-- Edited by JgFc on Wednesday 17th of November 2010 03:31:27 PM

Taking on board Chelwings comments i have nothing further to say.

From what i can recall

Ashford town 5-4 Welling Utd