People have always commented that the PR at PVR leaves a lot to be desired.
If and i stress IF the Hobbins have indirectly threatened 2 fans not to provide updates, what does that tell you about how they feel about their supporters? IF however the hobbins have said no such thing then we are closer to exposing the fan or fans that are INTENT on stirring via the forums.
Your thoughts?? (Naturally anonymous digs in this thread will be removed, if you post and are not registered simply add your nome de plume at the foot of your message)
I know who 2 of the fans posting anonymous digs are, if its not the hobbins threatening the 2 lads and someone is exposed it would be interesting if its the same persons digging on the forums.
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Alexander O'Neal 1987 "I'm fed up cos all you wanna do is criticize "
what a fukkin joke, i seriously would doubt it is the hobbins, more some fan being a dik.
i was looking forward to the match commentary today. the sooner scum like this is exposed the sooner all this crap will end.hopefully all will be in the open if the comentator says who told him not to do the comentary
Personally i think its a good thing. If it is the Hobbins at least we know and if not and its someone stirring/jealous it will expose thaem and the incessant anonymous bitching will stop. James knows who it is and elects not to sanction them and expose them. Its his board fair enough, but he seems to condone the anonymous **** stirring.
Im pretty sure that one way or another we are nearer to all the crap stopping.
Really cant see it being the Hobbins, he let us Video the games and always has been ok to my face. I dont think its Graham's style. We shall see an email has gone out to the club cc'ing the local papers/online papers that cover us/welling websites to see who is behind this the club or a fan/site/group of people.
The bitching MUST stop or those at the center of it need to be exposed as they prevent the club from being as ONE.
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Alexander O'Neal 1987 "I'm fed up cos all you wanna do is criticize "
James Wings fan informed me that the Hobbins have been ordered by the conference to stop allowing radio shows and that a fee will be charged to the club if it carries on. Unfortunately James has deleted the thread and locked it despite it being an amicable conversation. (WEIRD)
I have emailed the conference, the non league paper and coppied all welling websites into an email sent out to Welling United FC about the radio shows. They have not responded yet.
James said he has been told (by someone) that the Conference have ordered the club to stop the radio shows. Hopefully soon we will have clarification.
Its interesting that James knows whats going on isnt it?
-- Edited by JgFc at 19:43, 2005-08-29
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Alexander O'Neal 1987 "I'm fed up cos all you wanna do is criticize "
Absolutely Marshy, havent got a problem with James, I am seeking Clarification from the League and Club, have contacted them both. Im glad James told me that the Club have banned Radio Wings (because the Conference are demanding a fee). I am somewhat concerned they make this public knowledge without letting us know. Its the way this club does things sometimes!
Will know where we stand when the Conference get back to us. Ive also contacted a few Broadcasting Authorities. Its weird how they are allowing Video and Audio interviews to be aired and sold?? Double Standards?? Being Petty??
We shall see when all the facts are out and Welling United have stopped playing Chinese Whispers. There are ways to do things, an email or letter would be expected not behind the hand slagging and **** stirring.
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Alexander O'Neal 1987 "I'm fed up cos all you wanna do is criticize "
Im shocked, i only listened to the histon one and thought it was tremendous. Im very interested in finding the clubs reason for banning you from the ground. please let me know.
Thanks for the pms and emails and messages of support we've received. If on finding that the Club wants a fee paid to provide commentary or the Conference and there are people who wnat the service we will still look to provide Radio Wings we have over 20 people per match listening so there is a demand. Does seem petty its hardly capital radio!
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Alexander O'Neal 1987 "I'm fed up cos all you wanna do is criticize "
Fuck em mate just carry on doing it, what they gonna do arrest you? So forgive me but i saw this on the connie board, is it the Club or the League telling you that you have to pay to do commentary?
I have absolutely no knowledge of the laws regarding broadcasting a telephone call from a football match and cannot comment on its legality. I do however find the situation perplexing and would make the following observations:
1. What is the basis of the action the Conference can take?
2. What action can the Conference take against Welling United for a broadcast which is made from a site which is not endorsed by them, has no input from them and is therefore unofficial?
3. Why would the Conference contact the club and not JGFC? It is not the club that is broadcasting but JGFC and it is not exactly difficult to track him down
4. If the Conference can take action about a live internet radio broadcast what about the filming of matches and selling DVD's/Videos of them
5. How different is broadcasting a live telephone link via an unofficial site from a supporter publishing details of the teams and giving regular updates of the score and cards issued on another unofficial site?
6. Do the photographers, newspaper reporters, and the likes of Radio Kent have to pay a fee which enables them to publish their wares?
7. Who is responsible for policing radio/internet broadcasting? My only experience of illegal broadcasting was thirty odd years ago when a mate fronted a pirate radio station broadcasting from in and around Deptford. The block of flats on whose roof the mast was sited was constantly changing to keep one step ahead of the police and I think the Post Office.
8. Why was James, who is a third party with no involvement, made aware of the Conference’s contact but JGFC, who is the potential offender, was not?
I’m sure that I’m not the only supporter who finds the situation confusing substantially because the only information we have is sketchy and, such as that information is, it has been made public third hand.
It would be a great shame to lose the broadcasts which in all honesty, and with due respect to JGFC, cater for a niche market of up to 50 supporters maximum.
I trust that the club are in the process of giving JGFC the full SP and that the matter will be resolved as quickly as possible.
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"The worst thing you can do is make a committment and not meet it and I understand that." Barrie Hobbins 14 August 2010
Whats the big deal no one like jgfc especially not the hobbits, fair play for the radio thing but if he hadnt been such a twat in the past none of this would be happening would it. its obvious there is friction there and i cant see it stopping unless jgfc publicly apologises for being a numpty. We all know hes seen a million games over millions of years but what matters is now.
I have absolutely no knowledge of the laws regarding broadcasting a telephone call from a football match and cannot comment on its legality. I do however find the situation perplexing and would make the following observations: 1. What is the basis of the action the Conference can take? 2. What action can the Conference take against Welling United for a broadcast which is made from a site which is not endorsed by them, has no input from them and is therefore unofficial? 3. Why would the Conference contact the club and not JGFC? It is not the club that is broadcasting but JGFC and it is not exactly difficult to track him down 4. If the Conference can take action about a live internet radio broadcast what about the filming of matches and selling DVD's/Videos of them 5. How different is broadcasting a live telephone link via an unofficial site from a supporter publishing details of the teams and giving regular updates of the score and cards issued on another unofficial site? 6. Do the photographers, newspaper reporters, and the likes of Radio Kent have to pay a fee which enables them to publish their wares? 7. Who is responsible for policing radio/internet broadcasting? My only experience of illegal broadcasting was thirty odd years ago when a mate fronted a pirate radio station broadcasting from in and around Deptford. The block of flats on whose roof the mast was sited was constantly changing to keep one step ahead of the police and I think the Post Office. 8. Why was James, who is a third party with no involvement, made aware of the Conference’s contact but JGFC, who is the potential offender, was not? I’m sure that I’m not the only supporter who finds the situation confusing substantially because the only information we have is sketchy and, such as that information is, it has been made public third hand. It would be a great shame to lose the broadcasts which in all honesty, and with due respect to JGFC, cater for a niche market of up to 50 supporters maximum. I trust that the club are in the process of giving JGFC the full SP and that the matter will be resolved as quickly as possible.
The reason james has been told it is.... James is being paid to do the officail site soon by steve holly.
Do the Maths, hes now in the circle! oh i look forward to it, welling online is a £9.99 template, i hope the official site will cost more!
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Alexander O'Neal 1987 "I'm fed up cos all you wanna do is criticize "
I am not in the habit of responding to anonymous postings but I'm getting a bit bored with the attack JGFC bandwagon with little or nothing put forward to substantiate the personal attacks made. Just a few points for you to consider;
1. Why hide behind the tag anonymous? I am bruno and have been since the WOTW site appeared 7 years ago. I have had occasion to be critical of JGFC, James, the Club, TG and others but I have always called things as I see them and have never in those 7 years hidden behind the tag anonymous or resorted to vague statements.
2. I would like to know what you mean by saying he was to use your words 'such a twat' and that he should 'publicly apologise for being a numpty'
3. I'm sure that Graham and Barrie really appreciate being called 'the hobbits'
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"The worst thing you can do is make a committment and not meet it and I understand that." Barrie Hobbins 14 August 2010
i'd like to stress that no fans or the hobbins or anybody has bullied, threatend or put anybody under pressure directly or indirectly about anything to do with radio wings. the only people responsible for their being no radio wings are the conference for having the rule you need a licencse to do this.
