The WUSA Committee considered this at its meeting last Tuesday and decided not to produce a shirt for the playoffs. However, should we return to the top flight of non league then you can expect a 'back where we belong" or similar t shirt in time for the pre season games.
Nothing to stop a group of supporters arranging a play off shirt if you feel there is sufficient demand, can get funded and get arranged.
-- Edited by bruno on Sunday 8th of April 2012 03:11:20 PM
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I could not guarantee getting a stock of replica shirts/Macron polo shirts, even with a transfer under the badge saying (Conference South) Play Offs 2012 rather than embroidered, before the first playoff match. Based on our experience at last year's Bexley Festival they would not sell at the Danson Festival where people spent money on the small £8 or less items.
Canvassing opinion does not necessarily turn into sales, for example, there were many who said they wanted an away shirt but 4 months later there are still shirts available from the original stock of 15.
I will be at the game tomorrow and if there are 16 people prepared to guarantee purchasing a red Fruit of the Loom embroidered polo shirt with the words (Conference South) Play Offs 2012 at a cost of approx £16 see me, I will make enquiries to see if I can get guaranteed delivery date before the play offs from another of our suppliers.
-- Edited by bruno on Sunday 8th of April 2012 07:09:56 PM
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Saw a number of Sutton fans with the Notts County logo on their shirts and thought we could do the same for the play offs. As you say why stop at shirts.
The WUSA Committee considered this at its meeting last Monday and decided not to produce a shirt for the playoffs. However, should we return to the top flight of non league then you can expect a 'back where we belong" or similar t shirt in time for the pre season games.
Nothing to stop a group of supporters arranging a play off shirt if you feel there is sufficient demand, can get funded and get arranged.
I would be inclined to agree. It would make it look as if we have achieved our ultimate ambition. Maybe scarves or badges for our first ever play-off qualification would be more appropriate.
Now, should we win the play-offs, that would be another matter!!
The WUSA Committee considered this at its meeting last Monday and decided not to produce a shirt for the playoffs. However, should we return to the top flight of non league then you can expect a 'back where we belong" or similar t shirt in time for the pre season games.
Nothing to stop a group of supporters arranging a play off shirt if you feel there is sufficient demand, can get funded and get arranged.
I would be inclined to agree. It would make it look as if we have achieved our ultimate ambition. Maybe scarves or badges for our first ever play-off qualification would be more appropriate.
Now, should we win the play-offs, that would be another matter!!
I'm sure Sutton United saw Notts County as the height of their ambition, on the other hand it's just possible that they saw a commercial opportunity - I'm sure there are others who would buy a commemorative shirt for the semi-final but I bow to the WUSA's whatever.
The WUSA Committee considered this at its meeting last Monday and decided not to produce a shirt for the playoffs. However, should we return to the top flight of non league then you can expect a 'back where we belong" or similar t shirt in time for the pre season games.
Nothing to stop a group of supporters arranging a play off shirt if you feel there is sufficient demand, can get funded and get arranged.
I would be inclined to agree. It would make it look as if we have achieved our ultimate ambition. Maybe scarves or badges for our first ever play-off qualification would be more appropriate.
Now, should we win the play-offs, that would be another matter!!
I'm sure Sutton United saw Notts County as the height of their ambition, on the other hand it's just possible that they saw a commercial opportunity - I'm sure there are others who would buy a commemorative shirt for the semi-final but I bow to the WUSA's whatever.
I can see the appeal of a limited edition shirt and as was said earlier there is plenty of time. Maybe advanced orders with payment up front could be considered but it would need WUSA, who would stock the shirt, to buy into it. Will the shirt design change next season?
Yes but the shirts would be to the supporters not the good people of Bexley who are unlikely to buy a replica shirt if they don't already attend matches. No interest in the polo shirt but would deifinitely have a proper shirt. If we have the same away kit next year I'll take one of those away shirts off you - extra small please - ok large .......
WUSA need to think again - there's a huge groundswell of opinion (ok 2 or 3 of us) demanding play off items. I tell you if I go to a play off match whether semi or final and see the other teams supporters wearing a commemorative shirt and all I have is an effing badge then believe me I will be deeply unimpressed......
I was not speaking on behalf of WUSA whose view is that we should look at merchandise if we win the play offs which would be ready for the Danson/pre season, a view which I support. I was offering to assist a group of supporters if they wanted to arrange this independently.
As far as I am aware Sports Scene do not do embroidery though this can be checked out so I have looked at other suppliers who do offer this. The cheapest price I have been able to find for a Macron polo with embroidery (inc set up costs) and VAT is £19.40 a shirt, adding delivery call it £20. If we were talking about less than 20 shirts the cost increases as the setup cost is spread over less shirts. Thus we are actually talking about a shirt costing in the region of £24 at the point of sale. The normal, not guaranteed, delivery time is 10-12 working days so there is absoluely no leeway if we allow time for orders to be placed. There is certainly insufficient time between reaching the finals and the final itself to get replica shirts embroidered though if there is demand for such a replica shirt I'm sure something can be arranged as a memento of the achievement.
The reason I said 16 people is that in view of the comments made by 2 or 3 people I was prepared to speak to another supplier who could supply the non kit polo shirt and 16 is the minimum order. I have no idea what lead in times there would be as I am unable to speak to them until after the Easter holiday.
From those who have posted different one off items are wanted and there is no time to canvass opinion. Speaking personally in those circumstances I see no point in WUSA reconsidering their decision as such desires could not be met economically though I am not in a position to know the view of fellow committee members.
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I on WUSA's behalf do indeed look around when ordering goods and the issue more often than not is the required minimum order and/or issues such as the set up costs. The biggest risk in ordering blind is the quality of the goods, cheap all too often equates to inferior goods that do not encourage repeat sales and ebay is rife with counterfeit inferior goods.
The deal you pointed to was for an unspecified, in terms of manufacturer and quality, red polo shirt in a sale where there were only 4 size XXL shirts available. These shirts cost £4.99 + £1.99 postage and packing for the 1st item and £1 for subsequent items with 8-10 working day delivery (and not despatched until up to 5 days after payment has cleared) + £20 set up cost for the club logo + 20% VAT. Cost of 1st shirt £32.76 and cost of other 3 shirts available £7.18 each an average cost of £13.58 per shirt somewhat more than double your quoted £6 per shirt. If you want 6 to 7 working day delivery postage costs £4.50 per item and the cost is then £17.39 a shirt almost 3 times your quoted £6. If you quote costs you have to include the p&p and VAT as well as the item cost and any setup cost.
If you read what I put the branded and known quality of the Macron (the Club's kit manufacturer) polo shirt when embroidered is likely to cost £24 at the point of sale (i.e the customer price.)
I'm not sure where you got the figure of £16 from as I didn't didn't quote anything for the fruit of the loom shirt. I believe that the branded and embroidered heavyweight polycotton polo shirt from an already known and used supplier is likely to cost the customer around £18 provided there is a minimum order of 16.
As I said I will be around today if anybody wants me to assist them by ordering the shirts but there must be at least 16 people committed to buying one.
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Not trying to mug you off JgFc and I bow to your knowledge of ebay prices from ebay shops not being subject to VAT. I personally do not use ebay.
There items you pointed to are clearly stated as clearance sale items and only 4 shirts are available in sizes M and XXL (as is the Fruit of the Loom sweatshirt of which 4 are available in navy size L) and would not meet the suggested demand. The companies website also bears the convenient message "We are preparing to launch our new site in a few days" which rings alarm bells.
As indicated in my original post my customer price includes a mark up which you have overlooked the shirts wouldn't actually cost £24 and £16 respectively and the profits would go to WUSA.
My final words on the matter I am not trying to justify a decision made by the WUSA Committee but offering to assist supporters wanting a commemorative polo shirt and advising what minimum order I would need. They can either ask for my assistance in purchasing or not that is their choice. They may of course decide to seek your assistance.
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While I would not be interested in buying a play off shirt, I would certainly be interested in a scarf.
At present, by far the most likely scenario is that we will meet Sutton in the play off semi finals and it is possible that this could be confirmed as early as next Saturday. We appear to have a very good relationship with Sutton's supporters and, if this fixture is confirmed quickly, I wondered if there is any possibility of a joint venture to produce a "half and half" souvenir scarf with the colours of both clubs which could of course be sold to supporters of the two teams both in our shop and Sutton's at the two legs of the fixture and, if ready in time, at the last league games of the season on the 28th when both clubs are at home.
Only one team can progress to the final and if this were possible at least the supporters of the club which loses would have a souvenir of what has been a great season for both teams.
While I would not be interested in buying a play off shirt, I would certainly be interested in a scarf.
At present, by far the most likely scenario is that we will meet Sutton in the play off semi finals and it is possible that this could be confirmed as early as next Saturday. We appear to have a very good relationship with Sutton's supporters and, if this fixture is confirmed quickly, I wondered if there is any possibility of a joint venture to produce a "half and half" souvenir scarf with the colours of both clubs which could of course be sold to supporters of the two teams both in our shop and Sutton's at the two legs of the fixture and, if ready in time, at the last league games of the season on the 28th when both clubs are at home.
Only one team can progress to the final and if this were possible at least the supporters of the club which loses would have a souvenir of what has been a great season for both teams.
Absolutely magnificent idea, although i cant see Gavin letting his kids have one if it had Dartford on it haha.
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If i can get a chain mail vest I could cover it in fridge magnets thereby creating a unique play-off shirt, so I think we should go for it - I think 200 will do if I go for a short sleeve option
This may be a little out of line, but there is a company in Parr St, N1 (I worked for them many years ago) that do promotional items, and may be able to produce some stuff fast and well priced....... here's a link to their website. The do a lot of paper-based items like the "Bunting", "Flags", "Reindeer headbands" and "Santa Masks" that Shopping Centers give out (not suggesting the Reindeer/Santa stuff, but you may have seen them around). Perhaps they can do something in bulk, fast enough and for a good enough price to make a great visual spectacle for the playoffs and beyond. They may also do shirts, scarves etc for a more long term item. Here's their link:
