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He tweeted a pic from hospital with ankle strapped

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That's a big blow

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How long is he out for ?

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Surely not another training injury?  What a terrible season for injuries - and still we march on.  But Faz is a big loss.  I know money is tight, if not non-existent, but if we are to make a challenge then I reckon we will have to dip into the loan market - too many quality players are injured.

 



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I agree.....I am not sure that Fraser at RB with ben and Ach in the middle is our finest grouping

Lets hope he recovers quickly

We bloody need him right now

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If Faz is injured, would it not be wise to play Barney Williams?



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He commented last night that he didn't think it was too bad, was going to see how it was in the morning.

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Agree about Franks at RB, I would probably prefer to see Joboe at RB with Franks in the middle.

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Hope all goes well and he is back to his usual self.



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I agree with Mr 'Vanman, get better soon cheeky chappie Faz.  I hope all of our casualties, and longer-term ones, are not in too much pain.  I suppose, like all supporters, I tend to see injuries in relation to the team's prospects but we should never lose sight of what injury means to our players in terms of pain, possible loss of earnings from their other jobs and the worry of not being able to play again.  They put themselves on the line for the fans and the club and we should not forget them in times of trouble.



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Errrr and they earn money from it....it isnt ALL bad for them

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Really hope injury isn't too bad, been our best and most consistent player over a good four or five year period now.

Agree with above posters, can't really play Fraser at right-back with Anthony/Ben at centre-back - as a horrorshow against Truro. Personally would definitely play JoeBo at right back over Williams



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I think some people think players play for nothing or rather clubs will let their player play for nothing, good luck getting Evans in or a silmilar player. Jamie MAY be able to get someone in if he can work miracles with a manager he knows, Otherwise he will probably play Barney or Joebo or Fraser there. I am sure whatever he does will be his best idea that he thinks will work for us. You wouldnt bring in a work experience player when we have Barney whos done well and Joebo likewise. They only get experience if you play them and both have been decent when theyve played as cover.

Been unlucky with inuries Cumbers, Connor, Faz, Jake... but we are still in great form and 2nd with the leaders in sight.

Can Odemwingie play full back?


When this was last brought up you said he was no better than what we already had, whereas this sentence implies he's above our level - which is it? He's played for us before, was available for nothing, and wouldn't have commanded huge wages, why wouldn't he have joined?

Irrelevant now anyway, unfortunately. I thought at the time we were missing a trick - Connor was injured as it was, and Faz if fit could have played right wing with Evans at full back. Where would that have put Kiernan, you ask? Up top with Roscoe probably, as Guthrie is now injured. Things may have panned out differently - but it would have given us some more flexible options which would have been very welcome at the moment.



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Let's hope the injury isn't too serious - we need Faz, top player, top man.



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Ben and Anthony have let no-one down as a pair. Fraser is more than capable of playing right back if necessary. Truro was just one game. Youngsters are all very well but they don't have the experience.



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Faz has broken his third metatarsal, so looks like he'll miss a few matches :(

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Didn't Becks have a similar injury just before a World Cup? 8 weeks recovery?

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Should have signed Jack Evans when avaliable!!

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Didn't Becks have a similar injury just before a World Cup? 8 weeks recovery?


 Yes but this is Loui Fazakerley - not some mere mortal smile 



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This is true Blobster. Speedy return Faz. Loan signing or go with Joebo or Barney?

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I think some people think players play for nothing or rather clubs will let their player play for nothing, good luck getting Evans in or a silmilar player. Jamie MAY be able to get someone in if he can work miracles with a manager he knows, Otherwise he will probably play Barney or Joebo or Fraser there. I am sure whatever he does will be his best idea that he thinks will work for us. You wouldnt bring in a work experience player when we have Barney whos done well and Joebo likewise. They only get experience if you play them and both have been decent when theyve played as cover.

Been unlucky with inuries Cumbers, Connor, Faz, Jake... but we are still in great form and 2nd with the leaders in sight.

Can Odemwingie play full back?

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It was a post to Muzza who feels Evans is better, so it was saying good luck getting better players than we already have when we have no spare budget for one. I feel that Faz and Connor are at least as good as Jack Evans and i feel that Barney isnt far off if he is at all (Maybe a little experience) and havent seen a lot of JoeBo but hes done well. Unfortunately none of us are that gifted to see that 2 very good right backs would have long term injuries when another gets released from Gillingham.

Also IMHO, Faz had a game and a half? in midfield this season and showed rustyness and was ill at ease in that position but slotted straight back into to right back and was excellent as usual. He still gets quality crosses and shots in from full back and overlaps, why would you push him into midfield and sign a full back when we have plenty of midfielders? Especially when he looks one of the best full backs in the league.



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With all due respect, and not wanting to demotivate anyone, but there is no way Barney is within a million miles of the ability of Evans at this moment in time. But its by the by, Evans is not available. Barney is a great stand-in, but we should be looking at a loan now I think. What would happen if anyone in the back four picked up a knock or a red card in the coming weeks ??

I think we need a cheap loan in asap if possible. Boost the budget needed ??



-- Edited by Kevin on Friday 1st of February 2013 12:09:25 PM

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Seen that Salisbury have signed Rob Sinclair from Stevenage. Was a good player in Lge 2 for them, but has been injured for best part of 2 years. Is only 23. Played for Salisbury before.

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Best wishes to Faz - see you back in about a month then, miracle man! Now, we are in a good place to win this league.  Can we do it with the devastated squad we have at the moment? Will we ever be in this strong position again?  Yes, experience of the dangers of unsustainable debt should inform our decisions, (and, crikey, we should be grateful that the Wings are still here) but I believe if we do not go for it now and bring in some loan players to help our challenge, we are unlikely to be in this position again to get out of this league upwards - especially if the league becomes stronger. It is decision time - ambition and risk or stay where we are with reduced risk but possible even lower attendances and the possible loss of key players to BSP clubs? Perhaps we fans and WUSA could help fund another player with a new, dedicated appeal, if called upon?  It is a tricky one for everybody involved, owners, directors, club and fans, but I would hate us to miss out on this rare opportunity.



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For the avoidance of doubt, I wasn't suggesting the current boost the budget efforts aren't great, they are, and well done to all that contribute ... perhaps I should have said "the budget needs raising temporarily" rather than it being assumed I was suggesting it should come from the fans ... the club should push the boat out a little to cover the injuries if at all possible. If not possible so be it, but given our position in the table, an extrs £100 a week must be "findable" surely.



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I've seen Faz play midfield more than the couple of appearances this season , ive seen him play right back many times , ive seen him play midfield THIS season and right back THIS season. Hes a superb right back who can play midfield ... The only way i would consider playing Faz in midfield is if we had a better right back than him.

Why play a great player out of position. For me hes a better full back than he is a midfielder, i will qualify that... hes an exceptional full back at this level.



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Oh dear, a previous poster said some people don't sponsor a goal etc. I did and don't now. Sorry. I did previously and loaned the club money at its time of need. Now, if it is finger-pointing time you can do one. I don't need snide comments like that. If you want to alienate people after 38 years of support, you have done it.  I will find another club closer to home next season after that insult



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Kevin wrote:

With all due respect, and not wanting to demotivate anyone, but there is no way Barney is within a million miles of the ability of Evans at this moment in time. But its by the by, Evans is not available. Barney is a great stand-in, but we should be looking at a loan now I think. What would happen if anyone in the back four picked up a knock or a red card in the coming weeks ??

I think we need a cheap loan in asap if possible. Boost the budget needed ??



-- Edited by Kevin on Friday 1st of February 2013 12:09:25 PM


 Totally agree with you Kevin, however there are quite a few people on here crying out for Jamie to bring in a loan player that dont contribute to boost the budget or sponsor a goal,



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I'm not crying out for it, just saying it would be wise if possible financially.
I, and many others, don't contribute to the boost the budget or sponsor a goal, but I do pay £12 every time I enter the ground. Everyone contributes in some way.

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More serious than we thought. Seem that he will be out until at least the end of the season. Hes feeling confident that he could make a stronger recovery than expected though. On Facebook he posted "For those who don't know, I've broken a bone in my foot! Hopefully I can defy the odds and be back match fit before the season is finished!"

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JGFC - if you were to dismiss Faz as a right winger on such little evidence then you'd have to apply the same rule to Franks and say he couldn't play right-back. Even if he does, one injury/suspension to AA or Big Ben - given that they're big physical lads a suspension isn't that improbable - and we find ourselves in deep doo doo. I've only seen Joe Ober make a cameo appearance, and Barnie whilst undoubtedly talented for his age, really gets targeted physically. When we played away to Hayes and Yeading they bombarded him in the air when he came on.

Agree with Kevin that we've put ourselves in an excellent position and need to make the most of it by pushing the boat out, we can't keep our momentum going for the rest of the season with only one obvious first choice full back.




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What's all this in fighting leave it alone, Faz is out for the season, but this happens with every club up and down the country. in Jamie we trust!

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OMERTA elb wrote:

Oh dear, a previous poster said some people don't sponsor a goal etc. I did and don't now. Sorry. I did previously and loaned the club money at its time of need. Now, if it is finger-pointing time you can do one. I don't need snide comments like that. If you want to alienate people after 38 years of support, you have done it.  I will find another club closer to home next season after that insult



-- Edited by OMERTA elb on Friday 1st of February 2013 08:31:58 PM


Nobody is under any pressure to sponsor a goal. Times are hard at present. As long as you enjoy what's happening on the pitch why look for another club?



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What's all this in fighting leave it alone, Faz is out for the season, but this happens with every club up and down the country. in Jamie we trust!


Who says he is out for the season?



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Golden rule of forum use - never post when pissed, especially after several pints of Titanic.  Obviously, I over-reacted to a reasonable comment and, accordingly, I apologise.  Although I am not sponsoring a goal this year, my original point was to ask whether we could help fund an additional player by making a one-off donation. I would put £20 in the pot but people could give what they could afford rather that committing to a prescribed sum or schedule of payments. Incidentally, I don't think I could ever find another club to replace my beloved Wings.



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Something like a one-off donation right now might make a big difference, with no obligations and no minimum as to what people can put in. The team have done fantastically but it is asking a lot for the squad to cope with Tuesday-Saturday games pretty much until early April, what with all the injuries we have. Perhaps there is something in a one-off scheme on top of all the great work WUSA does. A Just Giving style webpage would make it easy.

It would be great to boost the chances of us achieving automatic promotion after so many consistent seasons of getting very close. Getting into the BSP would then really help raise attendances etc, and part-time clubs like Braintree are showing what can be done, even with a small budget.


There's still quite a few kit sponsorships available if people want to make a financial contribution to the club.

Now reduced to just £70 according to yesterday's match programme. 

http://www.pitchero.com/clubs/wellingutd/a/commercial-20675.html?page=9

Match ball sponsorship is also a decent way of helping the club financially, whilst also treating the family or a couple of mates without breaking the bank.

http://www.pitchero.com/clubs/wellingutd/a/commercial-20675.html?page=3



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Something like a one-off donation right now might make a big difference, with no obligations and no minimum as to what people can put in. The team have done fantastically but it is asking a lot for the squad to cope with Tuesday-Saturday games pretty much until early April, what with all the injuries we have. Perhaps there is something in a one-off scheme on top of all the great work WUSA does. A Just Giving style webpage would make it easy.

It would be great to boost the chances of us achieving automatic promotion after so many consistent seasons of getting very close. Getting into the BSP would then really help raise attendances etc, and part-time clubs like Braintree are showing what can be done, even with a small budget.

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WingsTillIDie wrote:
ColinP wrote:

Something like a one-off donation right now might make a big difference, with no obligations and no minimum as to what people can put in. The team have done fantastically but it is asking a lot for the squad to cope with Tuesday-Saturday games pretty much until early April, what with all the injuries we have. Perhaps there is something in a one-off scheme on top of all the great work WUSA does. A Just Giving style webpage would make it easy.

It would be great to boost the chances of us achieving automatic promotion after so many consistent seasons of getting very close. Getting into the BSP would then really help raise attendances etc, and part-time clubs like Braintree are showing what can be done, even with a small budget.


There's still quite a few kit sponsorships available if people want to make a financial contribution to the club.

Now reduced to just £70 according to yesterday's match programme. 

http://www.pitchero.com/clubs/wellingutd/a/commercial-20675.html?page=9

Match ball sponsorship is also a decent way of helping the club financially, whilst also treating the family or a couple of mates without breaking the bank.

http://www.pitchero.com/clubs/wellingutd/a/commercial-20675.html?page=3



-- Edited by WingsTillIDie on Sunday 3rd of February 2013 10:15:38 PM


Whilst those are good schemes, I, like a lot of people I imagine, would want any donation to go into a designated fund specifically to bring in a loan signing or two and strengthen the squad. Otherwise there are a million other behind-the-scenes costs that it could get swallowed up into. I think that is what Colin is getting at?



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