chelwing wrote:

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It is a good point Matt - I live near Bromley and there are posters all over the place. We received a letter from the school last week inviting us to Bromley's next match and discounts that were available.

Sadly I fear that despite all the good ideas on here nothing will change. I know that I don't have the time to do more and suspect many are the same.

One thing that I think is still the elephant in the room, is how well the club is run. I know we lost supporters when we nearly went bust. Sure a lot of us rallied around and the club was saved. However there were those that took an alternative route and said that they had had enough. Some may still come but don't put as much money into the club as they used to - I am one I will admit. We are not going to get these people back whilst it appears that apart from a few new boards around the ground, nothing has fundamentally changed. We still do not know what the debt is, despite us having a WUSA member on the board. And that is no criticism of Matt but shows, how despite it all, the supporters are still treated with disrespect.

Good to get that off my chest - just my opinion and others may well disagree.

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Disagree, most people come to Welling to watch football rather than worry about how the Club is run. What's changed is that over the last 3 years we've been playing brilliant football, scoring plenty and winning. That should be enough to keet people through the gate. If people stopped coming when the Club was nearly wound up then they weren't true Welling supporters. As for comments about caring about the supporters do any football clubs really care about their fans? Disrespect? How? I don't feel as if i'm treated with disrespect at Welling.

Falconwood_1 wrote:

As an aside, things like poor facilities don't help at PVR. A covered home end would be a big help, as would humane toilet facilities!

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 Chicken and egg. If more people came along, more income would be raised and facilities would be improved,

I don't enjoy the toilets but the quality of football I'm watching would drop if money was spent on other things. 

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Yes the toilets are crap, but no one comes to Welling for the quality of the toilets, and I can guarantee there's no-one out there that has stopped coming for that reason either.

Reducing ticket prices just is not going to happen. Likewise, a covered terraced area won't either due to cost.

Do simple things, and spend money on things that will generate a return, and quickly. ie, we currently lose over £500 per home game as we outsource the food and the burger guy makes all the profits. That's a missed opportunity for the club. Open the bar throughout the game, so if someone is cold, bored, tired, kids want soft drinks etc, they can spend money. Easily done, instant profit

 

Outsourcing the catering is nuts and likewise keeping the bar shut.

The rest you are totally wrong, good facilities bring in crowds.

Where would you put the catering?

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Impossible, although that tea bar under the stand was superb as we all know run by Teddy and Pam. Health and Safety closed it down as it was under a wooden grandstand and a fire hazard to those seated. Think Bradford etc etc.

I think WUSA and the club are investigating a building which will house catering where the club shop is now. Hopefully this will bring a range of food and drinks and keep the money in the club if it is possible for us to do it.

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 Would make a load of sense.

Wellington Boot wrote:

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Outside of Welling few know of the existence / location of the club, when / who they are playing, how much it costs etc etc.

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 Very true, I only knew about a football ground at Welling as about 18 years before going I had worked one Saturday as a bus conductor on the 89. The reason I went was my then 13 year old had moved in with me and he was the football mad one in the family. Actually got there at 2 p.m. to ensure we got a seat (I had no idea about non league in those days). Stange thing is I was the one who got hooked and the last time he was at PVR was as a steward for the Grimsby game.

Strongly disagree. If a leaflet appeared on a doormat on its own it would be seen, I dont read the newsshopper it goes straight in the bin. Newsshopper cost is £300 an advert for one week you could get almost 50,000 2 sided a6 leaflets printed for that and get them in the 50,000 closest houses to the ground. How many people would pick the leaflet  up and throw it before looking at it? Not many. Even if they werent interested they would see Welling United on it and if we could make it eye catching i think it would have more effect than a paper that goes in the bin or even then has an advert that may not be seen. How many newsshopper copies get delivered in Welling? *43,000 get delivered in Bexley Borough ... How many get read of those? How many read adverts of those, how many read the sport section of those? £300 for an advert that may be read or the same or lower price for more leaflets you can make sure actually get seen by someone in a local house , even if they do get thrown away at least they have to look at it to pick it up and bin it.

Its all about impact and if it arrived on the doormat on its own you can guarantee most will be seen by a local resident. The times it will be binned and not even seen is if it fell out of the newsshopper or local paper with a few other leaflets.

How about linking up with a local takeaway or pizza house, they always put menus through letter boxes, Give them an advertising board if we have an advert on the back of their menu. That way we get something delivered for nothing. I am sure we all have takeaway menus indoors... thats a corner cutting option that will still have some benefits and cuts out the legwork. I would much rather we delivered a leaflet ourselves.

Match Flyer for Saturdays game v Havant and Waterlooville
Share this amongst your email and social network , this should enable great coverage for no cost

http://files.pitchero.com/clubs/10980/Havant&W.pdf

http://www.pitchero.com/clubs/wellingutd/news/match-poster-havant-waterloo-857990.html

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Kevin wrote:

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Yes the toilets are crap, but no one comes to Welling for the quality of the toilets, and I can guarantee there's no-one out there that has stopped coming for that reason either.

The rest you are totally wrong, good facilities bring in crowds.

 

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 If Welling had gold plated taps in the toilet but the team was playing Neil Smith football do you really think our gates would be better?

Andy it should be on there , I put it on the Commercial twitter

Follow me @commercialwufc

Danson Mark wrote:

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Falconwood_1 wrote:

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Kevin wrote:

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Yes the toilets are crap, but no one comes to Welling for the quality of the toilets, and I can guarantee there's no-one out there that has stopped coming for that reason either.

The rest you are totally wrong, good facilities bring in crowds.

 

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 If Welling had gold plated taps in the toilet but the team was playing Neil Smith football do you really think our gates would be better?

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Everyone in the area knows the great football the team has been playing so maybe the poor facilities are a genuine reason. 

There hasn't been any improvement in the 32 years I've been going to pvr, indeed cover for standing fans has reduced to none at all.

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Leaflets might work but rather than someone walking the streets we have three main rail routes nearby. Giving out flyers at Bexleyheath, Welling, Sidcup, Albany Park stations etc etc. would get more eyes (if you're allowed to do it).

I always look back to the conference days where we would get around a 1,000 but that was boosted by away followings (at times) and also the cup runs we had that generated huge local interest and media.

I always think we have about 1,500 fans - 500 regulars, 500 who use to go and 500 occasionals. I saw so many faces at Dartford for the play off final and you wonder what it would take to get them down at PVR regularly?

Football has moved on big time and no matter how well we play, teams like Borehamwood, Salisbury and Hornchurch will fail to get much attention from the neutral. Whack on the lifestyle now of many people that didnt exist in the 80/90s and the price of non league football I just don't ever see us gathering new fans UNTIL we go up!

MarkX wrote:

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WDYPTC LOL!

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 In English???