Having actually bothered to read a few other forums in the last month or so, the following occurs to me.
It appears that just about all supporters in this league, us included, reckon the opposition go down too easily and wail for free kicks. Tough luck, get on with it. If we have learnt to do it like everyone else, so be it.
If you think a team that is top of the league is long ball, worse than your side or both, fine. Probably you should be asking that if your side is better than the one at the top of the league why you have been less efficient in disposing of the other 20 clubs in the league. If you don't want to give credit for that, then I suggest that you should be mightily hacked off with your team that they are behind a supposedly inferior team in the table.
Welling are not going to play well every game, nor are we going to have our top rank team out each game and frankly we a have played a few distinctly average games and a couple of stinkers this season. Therefore if you caught us on those days you are entitled to your opinion.
However, given we have the best attacking record in the division and one of the most efficient defences, if you have caught us on one of the better days your opinion may be, even if grudgingly, that this team can play more times than it doesn't. Own goals may be lucky, last minute ones are no more so than first minute ones, it just means you play to the final whistle.
On the balance of seeing about 20 games this season I would back this team to give a very good game to most of the teams that have won this league over the last few seasons and, as certain suspensions and injuries clear, to complete the job. We may not do it in the style everyone, including some of our own support, would like in the final games but I firmly believe this team will find a way.
If anyone else doesn't like it or reckons we will have a problem if we get promoted, frankly that is a problem I am happy we will have next season. Certainly beats the years scrapping around the bottom of the table when everyone could see we were horse manure!
I cannot agree with you more...it is the same when certain forum members of other boards say....Look at wellings crowds...so low ..how can they manage on that......well they should look at their own team and management....if they get higher crowds then the money is not being spent very wisely....look at Chelmsford...they had a great cup run and no money left to pay players.
I actually quite like it that we are seen as 'little' Welling as when we do beat these teams it makes me feel even better!!!
yes we cannot always play well BUT good grief it was onlyy a few years back when we struggled to win 12 games in a season let alone the 25 we have now.....happy days...now finish the job and 'little' Welling will be in the TOP 22 Non League Teams in the country
Apparently we dived and fouled all over the park. The dives from Salisbury were Olympic standard, and some drew bookings (Kiernan, Ben and Barney) Plus every time the ball went out it was 45 seconds before they restarted. Clarkie needed lengthy treatment, as did Kinchy (both were for 2 minutes or more) and Ross.. i am not sure a team that was losing would be time wasting after diving... laughable bilge from our strange cousins in Salisbury. Especially when their 9 goes down more than Nanetti at Havant. its a joke.
Couldn't watch that all season, fouling, diving, and just launching the ball into the oppo box from just outside your own box all game at every single opportunity.... and thats at home where you can be expansive and entertain your fans and play with freedom and pass it a bit more.
Apart from 20 mins at our place i thought Salisbury were average for this division. Ref was piss poor and helped their style of play but we havent had many consistent ones from the west country all season. That said we hoofed it as well after they scored and we have hoofed it a lot at away games in recent weeks probably why the results have been mixed at best. A little more football and i think we would have been home and hosed by now, no need to play it in the sky for 90 mins against poorer teams all the time on our travels. Makes it a lottery and negates much of our advantage imho.
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Alexander O'Neal 1987 "I'm fed up cos all you wanna do is criticize "
Well said, Stafford. It's good to see a constructive post on here, which I completely agree with.
The other thing that could be added to that is that our part-timers have outperformed the fuller-timers of Salisbury over the course of the season so far; let's hope this is a shape of things to come if we are in the Premier next season.
All teams in this league will have supporters that think all other teams cheat in some way, and the fact of the matter is, they probably do, but that's all teams, not just the opposition. Some of you have said that Salisbury are diving far too much, and fouling too much, but I think that's just your biased point of view, just like a lot of Salisbury fans watching the match on Saturday thought that Welling were the ones making the majority of the fouls, and in some cases, getting away with some very dangerous challenges. In my opinion, your players were very physical, and did make quite a lot of fouls, and the amount of yellow cards that Welling recieved backs that up. I don't feel that Salisbury were making as many fouls, and I certainly don't feel as if our players were diving, but then again, maybe that's because I am biased. At the end of the day, most supporters will be biased, of course they will be, that's part of football, and supporting a team, you are always going to be at least slightly biased in favour of your team. One thing I think we can agree on, is the fact that the officials in this league are terrible, they miss a lot, and most seem to have problems with consistancy. And the linesmen don't seem to know what the offside rule actually is.
-- Edited by Liam Brown SCFC on Monday 8th of April 2013 06:59:08 PM
JGFC its time to move on. Let them say what they want and think what they like. As I posted before, their programme said we have the best attacking and defensive record in the league. Their manager said we are top because we are more consistent than them. We have had plenty of richly deserved praise this year. The player in the Eastbourne programme said we were the best team he'd played against this year. Plenty of other forums (or fora) have praised our football against them. We don't care what the Salisbury say......(or Woking for that matter)
Couldn't watch that all season, fouling, diving, and just launching the ball into the oppo box from just outside your own box all game at every single opportunity.... and thats at home where you can be expansive and entertain your fans and play with freedom and pass it a bit more.
Refer to the observations above about diving and claiming. Also about the fact you only see teams on a certain day. Suspect they have had better days and played better and have obviously been doing something right to get to second. Also what they did on Saturday obviously achieved their desired result, even if we assisted in that. I would also say it is exceptionally rare for a table top clash to see both teams with their first choice team out and in form. If you get to see one match like that every five years at this level you are probably doing well.
Lets just get on with Staines and avoid making the sort of horlicks we made of that game last year.
The table doesn't lie so make sure it is telling the story we want to hear after 42 games....
Just one more gem from their forum before we move on:
"On the subject of welling if they have played like that all season they must be the luckiest team in england to top the league plus they must have the largest squad of any team,keep believing."
Win our next two games and it should be ours. Awooga!
Agree with Andrew and Stafford about moving on, My point was how they can ignore their own constant hoof ball and diving and fouling and that they were the HOME TEAM doing it, can justify it away from home, stay solid , clear lines and try not to lose and take your half chances, but doing it at home is shocking when pointing fingers at other teams for being direct etc.
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One thing I think we can agree on, is the fact that the officials in this league are terrible, they miss a lot, and most seem to have problems with consistancy. And the linesmen don't seem to know what the offside rule actually is.
Indeed. However, they too are six divisions off the pinnacle and are in this division for a reason i.e. they are learning on the way up, falling in standard and on the way down or not good enough to go any further. And I suspect they still probably make fewer mistakes per match than most of the players, albeit more significant ones. Which is why the players should try harder not to give them the opportunity to have to make a decision!
I would agree that the offside rule definitely seems to be policed differently in this league than the Premier League though.
We should take it as a compliment, when you are up there, you will be shot at, its natural. We have been knocking on the door for a few seasons now and deserve to be where we are, we haven't had an investor come in and throw the cash around we have got there by hardwork and a brilliant young manager who has built a successful team not once but twice when certain players felt they needed to play at a higher level. We can see the finishing line, we just need to concerntrate for a little bit longer to get what we deserve. COYW In Jamie we trust
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Stafford's post should rank as outstanding in regard to it's explanation of general non league footy stuff. I am just saddened that most Salisbury fans will not have a clue as to what it means.
After the game in the bar on Saturday a Salisbury fan spoke to me and asked my opinion regarding our chances of competing should we achieve promotion.
He seemed a reasonable minded kind of fellow, but now, after reading the above posts and reflecting think there is jealousy there and all around us.
Any one who has watched us play can see we are very capable and at times play attractive effective football. The league table as it stands speaks for us.
The Grimsby travelling fans were full of praise and good wishes and I would prefer to listen this balanced point of view than that of our closest rival that is emotive and perhaps driven by envy.
The remaining few games give a chance to Jamie and all involved to show they are ready to step up a level.
I will not let them down, I will be there to give my support. If we all do that, we would have done our best,and can say we have had a very good season.
Don't listen to any one else, be proud and support your team. Staffords post is excellent.
I would like to say that I do actually think Welling are a very good side, I'm not doubting that, as has been said, you the best goal difference in the league, scoring by far the most, and conceding the second least, after Boreham Wood, and you've achieved that because you are a very good side, you have also set a league record this season, by setting the most consecutive wins ever, and that's because you have been very good this season. My last post wasn't saying you weren't a good side, or doubting your abilities, it was simply an observation of how all football fans are biased in favour of their team, and some will therefore make out as if other teams are cheating i.e. diving and fouling, or blowing what they do out of proportion, and making out as if their team don't do the same. This thread is called 'An observation or two...' and that is exactly what I have done, made an observation or two. You are, without doubt, a good team, and if you win the league, which you probably will, then you will deserve it, because of how you have played this season.
