segregation would ruin the unique Welling experience!

Andrew Nicholson aka Courtjester wrote:

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£18 to get into Alfreton....does seem to be taking the mick ever so slightly. £2 off for an early bird ticket (all games segregated).

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 Just done a quick check and Luton £18, Grimsby £18 and all three (incl Alfreton) concession for over 65s where we are over 60s. 

We need to charge at least 15 prob 16. As I posted before Category games would be good. CAT A 17 CAT B 15 , if segregation give the oppo the park end and shiiiit bit of main stand. Not the best section of PVR, that's mental. oppo should receive piss poor views no bar etc, let them get wet, we will if oppo get the cricket side or we get Shiite segregated away ?.

Why crap on the regulars and give the oppo comfort , we will get the short straw away, we need to stick oppo in an end.

Make it comfortable for our fans and basic for oppo, we will see them once a season. It's not rocket science. Look after ours, stuff theirs... it will give us an advantage.

I agree with Tom that we should look after our own when it comes to segregation. Giving the oppo fans all of the E & B side and the new stand isn't doing us any favours.

Ideally we should give oppo fans the park end (a la Blackburn) but logistically that might not work. Also it might mean that I couldn't stand in my regular spot in The Panini when we attack the park end!

I am sure the team would like to play second half towards the road end (and our own supporters) if possible.

How many games are we talking about here?? We have never segregated Dartford and that will be the largest away following and we had no problems with Grimsby who brought a fair few down in the Trophy. Dartford themselves, as far as I know, only used segregation three or four times last season.

JgFc wrote:

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I'm not sure we have to give seats so put them in road end, use Erith turnstiles put gates after the toilets on Erith side let them have the second tea bar. Seems easy that way if logistics are a worry.

 

 

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 As a regular occupant of the new stand I had already queried how it was intended to segregate for the half dozen or so games likely to be affected.  I was not surprised to be told that the intention was to give away fans the new stand as, thinking of the park end, I could see no practical way of allocating this to the opposition with no access or toilet facilities there (though it will be interesting to see where the additional toilet facilities the club are now required to provide will be sited). 

However I'm not sure if anyone had considered this excellent idea of Tom's to give them the road end which would seem to solve the problems.  I suppose the one fly in the ointment is that as the gate would be on "their side of the ground" it would presumably need the agreement of E&B.  In general segregation is likely to happen when the most attractive opposition is visiting PVR and the old stand has I believe only 500+ seats.  Particularly in bad weather demand for seats from Wings fans could well exceed that number and it would indeed be galling for home fans, some of whom could be stand season ticket holders, to have to stand outside in the rain or snow while visiting supporters sit in comfort in a stand which probably would not be full.  I'm sure that no other club in the league will give the best area in their ground to the away fans and I hope that this idea will be looked at before a final decision is taken.  I do not think it is a requirement to give seated areas to the away fans and certainly we were not given one at Woking last season.  If there are a few away fans who are unable to stand for a couple of hours for reasons of age or disability, I'm sure they could be given dispensation to go in the home seated areas.

Just one more thought on the segregation issue.  I know that we don't normally concern ourselves with E&B's thoughts on Welling United matters but let us look at a hypothetical scenario:-

You are an official of E&B.  It is September 2013.  You are watching your team play a Ryman North match at Wroxham, 100 miles or more from PVR.  Welling United are playing a home Conference Premier match against one of the teams whose fans' reputation is such that the police have instructed that there should be segregation (I could mention a couple of clubs' names but I won't).  There were two alternatives possible as to where the club's fans could be housed.  One being at the road end of the ground, the other in your club's stand above your Directors' Lounge, dressing rooms etc. with your clubhouse also in their area.  Which of these alternatives would have left you just a little concerned when setting out for Norfolk?  I think I know the answer.

The clubs should be setting aside their normal differences and discussing this matter. 

Greendale wrote:

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Agreed Russ.  The gate would need to be moved or a new one erected between the toilets and the new stand.

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And at the other end of the terrace...

Also we can apply for 50% towards any new safety fencing / segregation .. and repairs to terracing,

http://www.footballconference.co.uk/football_foundation.php

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Wingnut wrote:

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I agree with Tom that we should look after our own when it comes to segregation. Giving the oppo fans all of the E & B side and the new stand isn't doing us any favours.

Ideally we should give oppo fans the park end (a la Blackburn) but logistically that might not work. Also it might mean that I couldn't stand in my regular spot in The Panini when we attack the park end!

I am sure the team would like to play second half towards the road end (and our own supporters) if possible.

How many games are we talking about here?? We have never segregated Dartford and that will be the largest away following and we had no problems with Grimsby who brought a fair few down in the Trophy. Dartford themselves, as far as I know, only used segregation three or four times last season.

 

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 We seem to be segregated where ever we go, although i think this is just down to our fairly large away following.

 

What kind af attendances do you get?

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Wonder what sort of away support travels from Luton. Last time you visited us for the FAT replay we had segregation for 79 away fans.