The main priority at the moment is retaining the majority of the squad from last season. One of the teams greatest strengths last season was it's team spirit. If we can retain that, we'll be fine.
Has nothing to prove to anyone but himself and possibly the Manager. Will play an important part.
I'm with you on that. He is a very important member of the team and I don't understand this nonsense about his fitness.
There's a broad church on here Mark!
Re. another snippet of opinion in this thread I think there is distinct promise in KHM who whilst often frustrating has pace to burn and scored valuable goals for the team. Needs to become as good a starter as he is a sub! I do feel TFJ has a way to go though and seems to lack confidence despite his ability. Ironic really as he seems to be a bit of a charactor 'off the pitch'!
KHM probably played around 50 games as a man. Loads there to come, let them develop and gain experience , get behind the young ones and they will be more consistent if theyve showed they have the goods.
IF Pires doesnt quickly pick up where he was when he left and then improve again.... i know nothing.
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Alexander O'Neal 1987 "I'm fed up cos all you wanna do is criticize "
Id say the 4 years hes been with us, his attitude, his performances have earnt him a bit of respect that shouldnt see a few same old people think they can slag off players. If half the players arent good enough, go and watch a team that are full of superstars, cheap flights to barcelona available online. There is simply no value in continually naming the same players as being not good enough when they can shove a league winners medal up your khyber. It also tends to make you look a clown.
Change the record they aint that ********* bad are they? they won the league.
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Alexander O'Neal 1987 "I'm fed up cos all you wanna do is criticize "
Its not even constructive. Its just naming players and saying they are not good enough ad infinitum.
It was repeated by the same group of people who are friends/related. Its been proved as wrong as they won the league and i think theyve all been offered terms by Jamie this season.
It serves no purpose.
As Jamie said in a recent interview about Loick, "Its my opinion that counts" So how about backing the manager and the players.
Fk me... if we are going to get the same group of "football genius fans" slag off players throughout a league winning season, it could get a bit warm on here in the Conference Premier.
chelwing you say we will all get behind the players Jamie picks.... All except this group of 4 or 5 who named and slagged off half the team last season and have started again already... i rest my case
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Alexander O'Neal 1987 "I'm fed up cos all you wanna do is criticize "
Its not even constructive. Its just naming players and saying they are not good enough ad infinitum.
It was repeated by the same group of people who are friends/related. Its been proved as wrong as they won the league and i think theyve all been offered terms by Jamie this season.
It serves no purpose.
As Jamie said in a recent interview about Loick, "Its my opinion that counts" So how about backing the manager and the players.
Fk me... if we are going to get the same group of "football genius fans" slag off players throughout a league winning season, it could get a bit warm on here in the Conference Premier.
chelwing you say we will all get behind the players Jamie picks.... All except this group of 4 or 5 who names and slagged off half the team last season and have started again already... i rest my case
I'd love to know how any player-related comment on this forum could be deemed "constructive". If you started a thread saying that "Player X needs to do A, B and C" do you really think Daisy is going to read it and go "I hadn't thought of that, I'll take his advice on board". No!
By that measure, we may as well not have a forum because our opinions are just those, opinions.
You're obsessed with creating this "them and us" mentality, putting yourself firmly in the "us" camp so you can cosy up to the players. This is a fans forum and I'll express my opinion as a fan regardless of whether a few overly sensitive players take offence (not that Clarkie is one of them, I'm sure if he reads this thread he'll be fired up to prove people wrong, not retreat into his shell).
If you find a post by me where I have slagged a player off, rather than given my logical, and fair interpretation of why I think they aren't good enough, then go ahead and send it to me. Until then, pipe down. I'm not responsible for the views of others who might share my opinion, nor have I formed my opinion just because they think the same. It would seem more likely that we agree on certain matters because they are correct!
We won the league, yes, but that doesn't mean every decision that Daisy has made has been the correct one e.g. I'm sure in hindsight he would have changed tactics earlier away to Dover, rather than letting Kinnear figure us out. Clearly he gets a heck of a lot more right than he does wrong, and I agree with keeping Clarkie here, but I wouldn't want to rely on him to play three games per week.
-- Edited by Ashford Wing on Wednesday 22nd of May 2013 12:01:39 PM
Its not even constructive. Its just naming players and saying they are not good enough ad infinitum.
It was repeated by the same group of people who are friends/related. Its been proved as wrong as they won the league and i think theyve all been offered terms by Jamie this season.
It serves no purpose.
As Jamie said in a recent interview about Loick, "Its my opinion that counts" So how about backing the manager and the players.
Fk me... if we are going to get the same group of "football genius fans" slag off players throughout a league winning season, it could get a bit warm on here in the Conference Premier.
chelwing you say we will all get behind the players Jamie picks.... All except this group of 4 or 5 who names and slagged off half the team last season and have started again already... i rest my case
I'd love to know how any player-related comment on this forum could be deemed "constructive". If you started a thread saying that "Player X needs to do A, B and C" do you really think Daisy is going to read it and go "I hadn't thought of that, I'll take his advice on board". No!
By that measure, we may as well not have a forum because our opinions are just those, opinions.
You're obsessed with creating this "them and us" mentality, putting yourself firmly in the "us" camp so you can cosy up to the players. This is a fans forum and I'll express my opinion as a fan regardless of whether a few overly sensitive players take offence (not that Clarkie is one of them, I'm sure if he reads this thread he'll be fired up to prove people wrong, not retreat into his shell).
If you find a post by me where I have slagged a player off, rather than given my logical, and fair interpretation of why I think they aren't good enough, then go ahead and send it to me. Until then, pipe down. I'm not responsible for the views of others who might share my opinion, nor have I formed my opinion just because they think the same. It would seem more likely that we agree on certain matters because they are correct!
We won the league, yes, but that doesn't mean every decision that Daisy has made has been the correct one e.g. I'm sure in hindsight he would have changed tactics earlier away to Dover, rather than letting Kinnear figure us out.
You really are a complete muppet
Theres a difference in saying player x has to release the ball or not run into players rather than hes **** so is he and so is he.
You really are an absolute clown, dont talk to me. LOL cosey up to players... like the 15 you and you little slagging off group of fwends have as Friends on facebook LOL... the only player i have on facebook added me. You really are a belle end . Go and like their statuses then slag them off on here go on... two faced muppet
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Ah, the JGFC trademark: Resorting to slagging off forum members and retreating when asked to provide some evidence for whatever bull**** he claims.
I'll try and allow the thread to get back on topic now, seeing as every thread where he doesn't agree with an opinion turns into his own little one man show with a focus on discrediting the poster rather than constructing a logical counter-argument and debating the point. The latter is, after all, the purpose of a forum. But you'd never know it.
Edit: I should say this is in response to JGFC saying "Go away tool. you arent worth the time lol". I highlight this due to his knack of deleting any post which he may later decide makes him look like an idiot.
-- Edited by Ashford Wing on Wednesday 22nd of May 2013 12:15:37 PM
I would say saying that you are wrong for saying players arent good enough when they went on to win the league is a pretty water tight counter argument, but try and come back with arsey digs like you usually do.
Lets forget you decided you wanted to get personal. I'll get personal, we will have words when i next see you. The minute you get personal with me, you have a problem. Just like its up to the players if they say anything to you and your fwends for the comments you make about them. We are all accountable for our words, some will react differently than others.
Glad thats all sorted.
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Alexander O'Neal 1987 "I'm fed up cos all you wanna do is criticize "
Its not even constructive. Its just naming players and saying they are not good enough ad infinitum.
It was repeated by the same group of people who are friends/related. Its been proved as wrong as they won the league and i think theyve all been offered terms by Jamie this season.
It serves no purpose.
As Jamie said in a recent interview about Loick, "Its my opinion that counts" So how about backing the manager and the players.
Fk me... if we are going to get the same group of "football genius fans" slag off players throughout a league winning season, it could get a bit warm on here in the Conference Premier.
chelwing you say we will all get behind the players Jamie picks.... All except this group of 4 or 5 who named and slagged off half the team last season and have started again already... i rest my case
I think this a little unfair.
I can't speak for others. Many posts on this forum are made by my friends, yourself included Tom, and also by my brother. However, I form opinions myself, I do not just universally agree with someone comments, positive or negative, as they happen to be related to me, or a flat mate or a friend.
I have never slagged a player off. I have however probably said sometimes X has not played well. That is fact. No-one performs to their best every game. I don't think that is an unreasonable thing to do. What others say or do is not my responsibility, fault, nor concern. Again, I do not just universally agree with everything.
I do not think that people have been proved wrong. Yes, the team won the league, but that doesn't make every individual within that team beyond improvement, criticism, or otherwise. Does Michael Owen having a Premiership medal mean he was as important to the team as Rooney, Ferdinand, etc. I think not.
You are right that it is the managers opinion that counts, and I have faith that he knows what he is doing, but this forum would become very boring very quickly if no-one dared have a differing opinion and was allowed to express it. Albeit that how that is done is sometimes far from ideal ... or equally ... mis-interpreted and then jumped upon.
I hope I will be allowed to continue to praise the fantastic achievements of the players for their past glories, and hopefully coming performances too. However, I also hope that if someone has a poor game I am still allowed to say so.
-- Edited by Kevin on Wednesday 22nd of May 2013 12:28:25 PM
I also think it's a very important signing. The last thing to do after a promotion is rip out the core of the team. Clarkie is a huge influence in the dressing room and can still offer a lot on the pitch. Also, would we have re-signed Kurtis Guthrie if Clarkie wasn't here next season? Both travel from the Peterborough area so signing both of them is likely to cut travel costs etc.
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Lee Clarke is a leader, always gives 100 %, scores a few goals and doesn't do anything daft. How some people are questioning re signing him I do not know!!
I think that you will see that any club that gets promoted will look to strenghten. They will release some players (as we have done) and look to sign players who can add to the squad. Players who don't get a regualr start at BSS level may not be able to step up to the next level. Jamie will know who he thinks has the potential to develop as he sees them in training every week. I will trust his judgement and we will all get behind the team he picks.
Doesn't mean we won't get frustrated with some of the players from time to time and it will be the death of this board if we are not allowed to express our views and frustrations.
I'm not disputing it's the right decision, but I hope the intention is for him to play 25-30 games, not 40-50. He's clearly an integral part of the great team spirit we have.
In terms of ability he's good enough for the BSP, but there were a few defeats this season (WSM away, Salisbury away etc) where I thought he, more than any other midfield player, was really struggling to keep up with the pace of the game in the second half. I hope he turns up next season fitter than he has ever been, because we're going into a league where we'll see less of the ball than we're used to.
Its not even constructive. Its just naming players and saying they are not good enough ad infinitum.
It was repeated by the same group of people who are friends/related. Its been proved as wrong as they won the league and i think theyve all been offered terms by Jamie this season.
It serves no purpose.
As Jamie said in a recent interview about Loick, "Its my opinion that counts" So how about backing the manager and the players.
Fk me... if we are going to get the same group of "football genius fans" slag off players throughout a league winning season, it could get a bit warm on here in the Conference Premier.
chelwing you say we will all get behind the players Jamie picks.... All except this group of 4 or 5 who names and slagged off half the team last season and have started again already... i rest my case
I'd love to know how any player-related comment on this forum could be deemed "constructive". If you started a thread saying that "Player X needs to do A, B and C" do you really think Daisy is going to read it and go "I hadn't thought of that, I'll take his advice on board". No!
By that measure, we may as well not have a forum because our opinions are just those, opinions.
You're obsessed with creating this "them and us" mentality, putting yourself firmly in the "us" camp so you can cosy up to the players. This is a fans forum and I'll express my opinion as a fan regardless of whether a few overly sensitive players take offence (not that Clarkie is one of them, I'm sure if he reads this thread he'll be fired up to prove people wrong, not retreat into his shell).
If you find a post by me where I have slagged a player off, rather than given my logical, and fair interpretation of why I think they aren't good enough, then go ahead and send it to me. Until then, pipe down. I'm not responsible for the views of others who might share my opinion, nor have I formed my opinion just because they think the same. It would seem more likely that we agree on certain matters because they are correct!
We won the league, yes, but that doesn't mean every decision that Daisy has made has been the correct one e.g. I'm sure in hindsight he would have changed tactics earlier away to Dover, rather than letting Kinnear figure us out.
You really are a complete muppet
Theres a difference in saying player x has to release the ball or not run into players rather than hes **** so is he and so is he.
You really are an absolute clown, dont talk to me.
Boo hoo hoo, dry your eyes.
As I said, send me the link to a post where I have just gone and slagged a player off.
Ah, the JGFC trademark: Resorting to slagging off forum members and retreating when asked to provide some evidence for whatever bull**** he claims.
I'll try and allow the thread to get back on topic now, seeing as every thread where he doesn't agree with an opinion turns into his own little one man show with a focus on discrediting the poster rather than constructing a logical counter-argument and debating the point. The latter is, after all, the purpose of a forum. But you'd never know it.
Edit: I should say this is in response to JGFC saying "Go away tool. you arent worth the time lol". I highlight this due to his knack of deleting any post which he may later decide makes him look like an idiot.
-- Edited by Ashford Wing on Wednesday 22nd of May 2013 12:15:37 PM
Atleast he is leaving me alone now lol
Only joking we are entitled to our opinion and should be respected for it rather than ridiculed
