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Pires unselfishly heads the ball across the goal but Ross fails to hit the ball.

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Corner to Salisbury, free header missed by their player.

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Strong appeal for a penalty, as Pires goes down, but waved away by the ref.

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5 mins of added time.

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PENALTY!!!!!

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Healy puts it wide.

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Sounds like 2 points dropped rather than a point gained, but we're still unbeaten at home and (I think) still in the top half of the table.

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Just got back from the game. Heard a load of our fans complaining after the final whistle to a steward about Salisbury's goalkeeper spitting at them after over celebrating. Whatever happened, he was a classless **** and the rest of his team weren't much better. Not a very good match at all, due to Salisbury being a hoofball team and unbelievable time wasters.

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Salisbury started the time wasting in the 46th minute. Terrible team only came for a draw and sadly got it. Definitely 2 points dropped.



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Should be reported to police, not just a steward. I know of many occasions where people have been convicted of assault after spitting at someone.

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Salisbury started the time wasting in the 46th minute. Terrible team only came for a draw and sadly got it. Definitely 2 points dropped.


 Actually I thought we got found out today. Never mind the penalty miss...that happens, but they could have been 3-0 up in the second half. Two games in two days was too much. Shapeless in the second half due to fatigue? Remember, they only had 10 men and could have taken all three points. Is that just the downside of being part-time or something to do with non use of substitutes?



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We were poor today. Even if Healy had scored, we wouldn't have been worthy of the three points. A real shame, especially against 10 men, after such a fantastic display at Woking. Let's hope it's just a one off and we don't rue the two points dropped come the end of the season. One player we really missed was Beautyman; he;s been a class act since joining. If you would have offered me 4 points from the weekend's games, I would have taken them!

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We drew today and the players looked tired in the 2nd half. I'm not going to get on their backs as most would have taken 4 points before the start of the weekend. Salisbury did everything to time waste today. We need some fit subs that should help and hopefully next Saturday some of the injuries should have cleared up. Onwards and upwards. COYW



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Would of taken 4 points at the start of the weekend, not a great game ruined by awful time wasting, think we edged it slightly buying am biased!

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Edged it, but I am biased. That was meant to be!

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I agree we looked tired ( no problem with that).....It was as Matt said we need options on the bench and we dont have any at the moment to change a game...yes they time wasted etc BUT it is up to us to play through that and today we didnt!!!

I would have taken 4 points too at the start of the weekend so all good so far!!

A good weeks rest now and go again at Edgar Street

On another day we would have won that 2 or 3 - 1.....Rosco will not want to see his miss again or indeed One Joe BUT these things happen....we didnt lose


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Should be reported to police, not just a steward. I know of many occasions where people have been convicted of assault after spitting at someone.


 Fully agree Moo. Having been on the receiving end a couple of times when I was working for London Buses I can assure everyone the police take this very seriously.



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I agree we looked tired ( no problem with that).....It was as Matt said we need options on the bench and we dont have any at the moment to change a game...


There are 26 players listed on the back of today's programme.



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My thought also, Russ.  Why do we fill a bench with players not likely to feature?  Also, how many of those 26 players are injured, on the way back from injury or on loan to other clubs?



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Yeah...get the youngsters involved...I dont get that at all



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I think some of us were spoilt by the first 30 mins at Woking,  the best I have seen us play for many a year.  We will have good games and bad games and what appears evident is that we do not seem to react well to sides going down to 10 men (both Sat  and today). In my humble opinion we did not create enough goal scoring opportunities to say that we was robbed of three points.  Penalties will be missed from time to time and Joe Healy gives us so much that nobody should get on his back over this slip. What puzzled me was the lack of attacking options on the bench, Keirnan was there but he was not used, is he still carrying an injury?



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I think some of us were spoilt by the first 30 mins at Woking,  the best I have seen us play for many a year.  We will have good games and bad games and what appears evident is that we do not seem to react well to sides going down to 10 men (both Sat  and today). In my humble opinion we did not create enough goal scoring opportunities to say that we was robbed of three points.  Penalties will be missed from time to time and Joe Healy gives us so much that nobody should get on his back over this slip. What puzzled me was the lack of attacking options on the bench, Keirnan was there but he was not used, is he still carrying an injury?


I can't imagine anyone will get on Healy's back about the penalty. I certainly won't, he's pure class. Although I will say he didn't have his best game today (who did after all?). I'd actually been looking forward to seeing him in the centre of the park for some time because I think that's where he can cause the most damage, but we seemed to lack a bit of drive and ball-carrying ability in the middle today. I also thought our delivery from wide positions wasn't anywhere near it's usual high standard. Far too many in-swinging crosses that even a pub-standard keeper such as Puddy could come and claim.

Kiernan is still getting over an injury but really there shouldn't be an excuse not to have some youngsters who are dual registered - Ouani, Hudson, Corne etc on the bench. I'm not saying they're first team material yet, but we could have done with freshening things up in the last 20 minutes when it was pretty obvious some players were feeling the effects of 2 games in 48 hours.

A poor performance still got us a point. And I'll happily take 1 poor performance for every 4 good ones, because it means we'll be battling for a place in the top half which shouldn't be beyond us. COYWs!



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BBC page and of course radio wiltshire so only Salsbury manager interviewed. On a positive note no Salisbury badge eithersmile

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23764074?forumid=725328



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I think some of us were spoilt by the first 30 mins at Woking,  the best I have seen us play for many a year.  We will have good games and bad games and what appears evident is that we do not seem to react well to sides going down to 10 men (both Sat  and today). In my humble opinion we did not create enough goal scoring opportunities to say that we was robbed of three points.  Penalties will be missed from time to time and Joe Healy gives us so much that nobody should get on his back over this slip. What puzzled me was the lack of attacking options on the bench, Keirnan was there but he was not used, is he still carrying an injury?


I can't imagine anyone will get on Healy's back about the penalty. I certainly won't, he's pure class. Although I will say he didn't have his best game today (who did after all?). I'd actually been looking forward to seeing him in the centre of the park for some time because I think that's where he can cause the most damage, but we seemed to lack a bit of drive and ball-carrying ability in the middle today. I also thought our delivery from wide positions wasn't anywhere near it's usual high standard. Far too many in-swinging crosses that even a pub-standard keeper such as Puddy could come and claim.

Kiernan is still getting over an injury but really there shouldn't be an excuse not to have some youngsters who are dual registered - Ouani, Hudson, Corne etc on the bench. I'm not saying they're first team material yet, but we could have done with freshening things up in the last 20 minutes when it was pretty obvious some players were feeling the effects of 2 games in 48 hours.

A poor performance still got us a point. And I'll happily take 1 poor performance for every 4 good ones, because it means we'll be battling for a place in the top half which shouldn't be beyond us. COYWs!


 

Having just watched Daisy's interview I'll amend my last sentence:

A poor performance still got us a point. And I'll happily take 1 poor performance for every 4 good ones, because it means we'll be battling for 20th which shouldn't be beyond us. COYWs!

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Don't sound like i missed much today, think we would of all taken 4 points off this weekend at the beginning of the season so not to worried. On another note, how many pens has joe healy missed now? I've guessed correctly which way he's going on the last few i've seen, seems to open his body up to much when hitting it. Think its time somebody else stepped up. (it happened to clarke when he missed a couple).

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You cant have it both ways. We have Blaine and Doug on loan with no call backs.

If clubs will take our youngsters on to give them much needed experience and game time you cant just call them back to sit on the bench when one week you have a few knocks, whether there is a call back or not in the loan deals if we kept calling them back the clubs wouldnt take them in future.

Hopefully we will have a bench full of fit subs on Saturday. I think the fact we are naming a full bench in the last two games is psychologically a good thing.



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Ref was not good yesterday imo, tried to let the game flow to his credit and not blow for free kicks but other than that not good imo.

Never ever in a month of Sundays a red card, but then their keeper should have got a red for a second yellow. Also the time wasting.... he went to two of them and waved his hands in their faces and said you and you no more timewasting early in second half, then let them all timewaste all half before booking the keeper in the 85th minute when it doesnt affect them.

You cant do a lot when they go down 10 times with head injuries but when the keeper timewastes or the team do it by delaying the game at free kicks and throw ons thats your chance to clamp down on it and i think he failed to do so.



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Strange how the ref was from Dorset in a game in Kent featuring a Wiltshire side. Maybe at Luton we will have a ref from Maidstone.

The pen was stonewall, Puddy has gone right through Doug and put him in orbit. Its probably a red in its own right never mind a yellow.



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Yeah...get the youngsters involved...I dont get that at all


 Surely using keen, fit, youngsters would be better than some unfit or injured people on the bench who were not used?



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Two tired teams yesterday, lacked a Clarke/Beautyman to join in with the forwards.

Thought the ref was poor. The refs do seem to be struggling to keep up with the pace of this league.

However,

Unbeaten at home,

1 loss in 5.

Only lost once against 3 ex league clubs, who are fully pro possibly paying 5 times what we can.

Winning at Woking...

Great positive start.

When the crowd get into the game it clearly intimidates the oppo and the officials, need more of that, clubs won't enjoy coming to PVR....



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You cant have it both ways. We have Blaine and Doug on loan with no call backs.

If clubs will take our youngsters on to give them much needed experience and game time you cant just call them back to sit on the bench when one week you have a few knocks, whether there is a call back or not in the loan deals if we kept calling them back the clubs wouldnt take them in future.

Hopefully we will have a bench full of fit subs on Saturday. I think the fact we are naming a full bench in the last two games is psychologically a good thing.


I understand where you're coming from, but I think its a bit different right at the start of the season when you already know you have injuries (look at Wrexham, we only had Loick and JoeBo).

The young players' development isn't going to stagnate in the space of a few weeks while we wait for the likes of Kiernan to get fit. Regardless, Sam Corne sat on the bench for Thamesmead yesterday - he may as well have been sitting on our bench. He's only 17 so isn't going to be a Conference standard player yet, but he would at least have been a fresh body to run around for 15 or 20 minutes. 

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I agree with JGFC, i was right behind that tackle and thought a Red was harsh. I thought Kurtis was just too quick for the Salisbury player instead of it being a bad tackle.

The ref failed to get any grip on the game and stop the time wasting. Why book the keeper with 10 mins left when he had been timewasting all the 2nd half? Warn him once, book him the 2nd time he does it and then then that would have prevented it.

Yesterday was warm which would have been draining for the players, plus playing on that wet pitch on Saturday would have been difficult. But i wuld have takejn 4 points before the 2 games if asked before.

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I was worried we would only have 2 points by now...so happy days

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I agree with JGFC, i was right behind that tackle and thought a Red was harsh. I thought Kurtis was just too quick for the Salisbury player instead of it being a bad tackle.

The ref failed to get any grip on the game and stop the time wasting. Why book the keeper with 10 mins left when he had been timewasting all the 2nd half? Warn him once, book him the 2nd time he does it and then then that would have prevented it.

Yesterday was warm which would have been draining for the players, plus playing on that wet pitch on Saturday would have been difficult. But i wuld have takejn 4 points before the 2 games if asked before.


We were quite close to the incident and first thought that it was a red card.

Will have to wait for the video but he was over the top of the ball and late. Their lad knew it was a bad challenge and he stayed down to try and con the ref in my opinion. I would be surprised if it gets overturned.

As others have already said I thought the lads look tired and didn't pass the ball as well as we normally do. Hence we were crossing the ball diagonally rather than getting behind them and it became like a catching drill for the keeper. Also was a bit disappointed with the set pieces where our delivery is usually a lot better. After a hard game on Saturday on a difficult pitch and a very warm day with only 48 hours between games the tiredness is hardly surprising and most of us would have been more than happy with 4 points out of 6 over the weekend.

Just a shame that we couldn't throw on any fresh legs late in the game that might have made a difference

 



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You cant have it both ways. We have Blaine and Doug on loan with no call backs.

If clubs will take our youngsters on to give them much needed experience and game time you cant just call them back to sit on the bench when one week you have a few knocks, whether there is a call back or not in the loan deals if we kept calling them back the clubs wouldnt take them in future.

Hopefully we will have a bench full of fit subs on Saturday. I think the fact we are naming a full bench in the last two games is psychologically a good thing.


I understand where you're coming from, but I think its a bit different right at the start of the season when you already know you have injuries (look at Wrexham, we only had Loick and JoeBo).

The young players' development isn't going to stagnate in the space of a few weeks while we wait for the likes of Kiernan to get fit. Regardless, Sam Corne sat on the bench for Thamesmead yesterday - he may as well have been sitting on our bench. He's only 17 so isn't going to be a Conference standard player yet, but he would at least have been a fresh body to run around for 15 or 20 minutes. 

Does anyone know where Callum Webb was yesterday?


 I was told that Webb, although named on the bench at Woking, was injured in the warm up there and therefore unavailable for Monday?! 



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I agree with you if they arent being played at their loan clubs, especially Corne who looks decent if Jamie and Clarkie werent fit. Callum was there.

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JgFc wrote:

You cant have it both ways. We have Blaine and Doug on loan with no call backs.

If clubs will take our youngsters on to give them much needed experience and game time you cant just call them back to sit on the bench when one week you have a few knocks, whether there is a call back or not in the loan deals if we kept calling them back the clubs wouldnt take them in future.

Hopefully we will have a bench full of fit subs on Saturday. I think the fact we are naming a full bench in the last two games is psychologically a good thing.


 Our youngsters are on dual registaration, not loan, so we could call them back at any time. Someone like Ouani, coming on as a second half substitute and running at the defence would have given us something different.

Two games in three days is difficult but they only had one change to their starting line up from Saturday as well.



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