Thanks to everyone that paid for their place on the coach on Saturday. However, Gary Staples (2 seats) Matt Kemp and Trevor Ford, can you let me know one way or another if you are going on Saturday. If the above 4 seats do not get paid for that would mean 14 people have pulled out of the coach. This has added at least £10 to the cost of everyone's ticket plus puts the coach at risk of making a loss. This may be the last coach I look to organise as I shouldn't have to be chasing people for money for something they committed to.
There are still spaces if anyone else wants to go last minute. It's £39 for WUSA adults, and leaves approx 7.30am from Welling United FC. Message me if interested.
Thanks again.
Dean
-- Edited by Polo on Monday 9th of September 2013 11:04:55 AM
-- Edited by Polo on Wednesday 11th of September 2013 03:31:03 PM
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It's be a shame if the WUSA coach service is scrapped but if that is the case then it may be worth promoting travel packages available via the WUSA spend and raise link.
I know the Trainline and other operators do deals on there, and at least then WUSA would be guaranteed a profit.
As an example, there are return tickets for the 28th from Welling to Macclesfield for £80. If booked via the WUSA link this would raise couple of quid for WUSA per person. Group bookings should be cheaper however.
We shouldn't have a situation where WUSA risks making a loss from kindly offering to book a coach, with WUSA members worried about booking a coach seat for fear of the price going up due to drop outs.
-- Edited by WingsTillIDie on Monday 9th of September 2013 12:59:45 PM
Train bookings at £80 plus are a rip off.
For less money you can easily drive to most away games on Saturdays, stay over night, and come back Sunday, and have change left in your pocket. £20 petrol per head for Hyde, and £30 in a B&B.
Myself and two/three others will be doing so for Hyde on the 21st.
If there are other people that want to get involved to share the cost then PM me ... I'd consider a mini-bus arrangement if a coach isn't needed.
thanks.
Is there any possibility of charging people a non-returnable, nominal deposit (possibly via paypal), when they book a coach seat? Obviously, there may be valid reasons for people pulling out of booking commitments, but WUSA and people who do travel should not have to pay their costs. It would be a terrible shame if WUSA stopped running coaches to the longer-distance games. Also, is there any prospect of raising money for WUSA and the Club by allowing supporters to travel with the team for certain games at a cost which reflects that privilege?
For the group of 10 i'm going with, Hyde was £38 per person, Maccesfield £31 per person and Halifax £41 per person. Never just buy return's. Look at splitting the cost of your train tickets buy buying tcikets for different legs of your journey.
Back to the coach. I only take money when numbers are "confirmed." Once you've given me the money the price doesn't go up. My main complaint is people say they are going then promising payment only to then pull out or do a vanishing act. IF and it's a big if coaches are run in the future, I will want a £20 non refundable deposit for booking a seat. At least that way we know if the numbers are there for the coach and it won't make a loss.
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Someone mentioned £80 on another thread.
Yes, booking massively in advance and in groups will save money, but as has been demonstrated with the coach, not everyone can commit weeks in advance and in vast numbers. What of the single person that would like to go to the game?
I am travelling by car for Hyde, and am happy to chat to other people wanting to consider mini-buses for future games. If we can't fill a coach at least we might fill a mini-bus
My point is though Kevin, is that if people couldn't commit then they shouldn't of said they wanted to go! That way we could of decided not to run the coach, put the prices up or as you've said try to get a minibus. But as we had over 40 people willing to go, i booked a coach based on that interest. However, then people decided not to go which puts us in this situation. I can understand a few people pulling out but over 30% of people is crazy.
Regarding mini-buses, the cost funnily enough doesn't differ that much from coaches. You've also got the problem of being a bit more cramped on a mini bus and no toilet which might put more people off.
That's why if coaches run I will ask for a deposit. That will sort out who seriously wants to go and if there isn't the interest then i won't book it, much easier that way!
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My point is though Kevin, is that if people couldn't commit then they shouldn't of said they wanted to go! That way we could of decided not to run the coach, put the prices up or as you've said try to get a minibus. But as we had over 40 people willing to go, i booked a coach based on that interest. However, then people decided not to go which puts us in this situation. I can understand a few people pulling out but over 30% of people is crazy.
Regarding mini-buses, the cost funnily enough doesn't differ that much from coaches. You've also got the problem of being a bit more cramped on a mini bus and no toilet which might put more people off.
That's why if coaches run I will ask for a deposit. That will sort out who seriously wants to go and if there isn't the interest then i won't book it, much easier that way!
Oh I agree ... 30% dropout is a joke. And obviously running the coach at a loss doesn't make sense. Taking a deposit from now on makes perfect sense.
I, like many others I suspect, am keen to go to as many games as possible, but as I work many Saturday's, I often can't commit to trips the length of the country until a few days before, and long after the train discounts are done, and the coaches are booked/not booked. Getting as many Wings fans as possible to away games will help the team.
Non-refundable does seem the best way to go. If they are commiting themselves to the coach, then they will pay the money. If for any reason they wish to pull out, they shouldn't be refunded as it causes a huge knock on effect to those who are on the coach and shows that those people are not fully commited. The coaches have been brilliant so far, so to see them go will be a huge disappointment. This should persuade more people to go! Once you've paid your money, you shouldn't expect to see it again! Lets keep them coaches running and get behind the lads!
That's why if coaches run I will ask for a deposit. That will sort out who seriously wants to go and if there isn't the interest then i won't book it, much easier that way!
It will be a real shame if what has happened this time causes the coaches to be stopped. I booked by train to Southport as soon as the fixtures were released and got a very large discount and am intending to go to Macclesfield for the weekend. However there will be games, the first of which is probably Braintree, where I would definitely go on the coach if one is running.
I think that the non-refundable deposit idea is a very good one as people would be much less likely to drop out if they had paid a considerable part of the fare and, even if they did, the money they had paid would keep the cost down for others or stop the coach being run at a loss. I do think however that there are occasions when people are unable to make a decision on whether to travel until very late, sometimes after the last home match before the game. Would there be any chance of a pay-on-the-day facility being introduced perhaps including a small surcharge to prevent people doing it as a routine in order to take in possible extra money when there are spare seats available? Perhaps any such payments could be taken into the club offices before the coach departs. Just an idea. As others have said, every Wings fan helps.
The problem with pay on the day is that we don't know how many people will turn up. I can't book a coach hoping that 3 or 4 people will turn up on the day for it to break even. Again IF the coaches continue, a deposit is the only way forward. That way if we don't get the numbers to commit then the coaches won't run. That way i'm not wasting anymore of WUSA's finances making a loss on coaches.
Braintree i've looked into but ideally we need 40 people at around £13 to £18 each to make it viable.
Anyone now can turn up on the day. The coach is only half full so if anyone wants to turn up on Saturday they can and they can travel to the game.
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For anyone still considering the coach on Saturday there are still spaces. I need 2 more people to go to break even so if 2 people come forward then I will buy them a drink of their choosing in the bar on Saturday!
We will also be doing a "First welling goalscorer" and "Correct match score" 50/50 draw which could win you some cash.
You can turn up on the day but feel free to message me first to put my mind at rest! Coaches leaves PVR at 7.30am
Dean
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