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Do you consider Welling United to be a London or Kent club? [57 vote(s)]

London
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Kent
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Yes, you can argue about it being both, one or the other till the cows come home. But what's your initial reaction - London or Kent?



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Coincidentally there's a separate lengthy debate on the Newsshopper website, as to whether Sidcup is London or Kent.

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I would presume that the club Is duel registered with the London FA and Kent FA with the London FA being the "parent FA" therefore in footballing terms they are regarded as London

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In the London borough of bexley so I say London.

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Some of us remember when Bexley was in the administrative county of Kent (the biggest borough, in fact).  So Bexley (and Welling) is in London-occupied Kent - just as London is trying to take over other parts of our beloved county (Boris island airport) and dumping its problems here from its more posh boroughs in inner London. 



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The poll is more about everyone's personal feeling. If somebody came up to you in the street and asked, what would be your instinctive response? The politics of it all have been done to death.

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I think it depends on your age, as a boy growing up Welling / Bexley was always part of Kent, but ask a 10 year old and I think they would say London. But to me it will always be a Kent borough.



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Grew up in 60s and 70s supporting Kent CCC but still think of myself as a Londoner and Welling as a London club.

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There is a reason for me asking, relating to the other thread regarding what song the team runs out to.

So far, over two thirds of voters have said "Kent".

Perhaps "London Calling" was directed towards the BBC, perhaps it was just a random choice. Either way, if we play it at every home game from now on then we're embracing a status that most supporters don't agree with, as evidenced by the poll. We'll never get covered by BBC Radio London, but we may just get covered by Kent if we keep piling the pressure on.



-- Edited by Ashford Wing on Tuesday 21st of January 2014 10:58:26 PM

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I like both! Feel like a Londener as was born in Plumstead and live in London Borough of Bexley. That said am proud of Kent heritage as represented by postal address.



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It has red busses that pull up outside. London.

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Postal address reads Welling Kent. So no argument, unless it's wrong on our web site.hmm



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Eastbourne Wing wrote:

It has red busses that pull up outside. London.


 Cliff Richard drove a red bus up an Alp, is that in London?



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Eastbourne Wing wrote:

It has red busses that pull up outside. London.


 So does bluewater 



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From Wikipedia

Greater London is an administrative area, ceremonial county and the London region of England.[1] It was created on 1 April 1965, comprising the City of London and 32 London boroughs, of which 12 are Inner London and 20 Outer London boroughs

Prior to 1963 Welling would have been under the old KCC and not the LCC - the bill to create Greater London was signed in 1963 but created two years later, so  effectively we have been a Greater London club since 1965 and arguably, since 1963 when the bill was first agreed.

Post codes come from the GPO service which was abolished in 1969 and taken on by the Royal Mail, who kept the same assets and as a result did not change the DA and Kent post names which we have today.



-- Edited by morph on Wednesday 22nd of January 2014 08:19:09 PM

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If we are relying on Wiki for 100% fact we are in trouble.

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True Kevin - I was just trying to provide some background on how the London Kent issue has come about.

personally I don't really care if we are London or Kent as the team represents the community that I live in which is Welling and the surrounding area.



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sladie wrote:

Postal address reads Welling Kent. So no argument, unless it's wrong on our web site.hmm


 Plenty of room for argument as we're in the London Borough of Bexley!



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morph wrote:

From Wikipedia

Greater London is an administrative area, ceremonial county and the London region of England.[1] It was created on 1 April 1965, comprising the City of London and 32 London boroughs, of which 12 are Inner London and 20 Outer London boroughs

Prior to 1963 Welling would have been under the old KCC and not the LCC - the bill to create Greater London was signed in 1963 but created two years later, so  effectively we have been a Greater London club since 1965 and arguably, since 1963 when the bill was first agreed.

Post codes come from the GPO service which was abolished in 1969 and taken on by the Royal Mail, who kept the same assets and as a result did not change the DA and Kent post names which we have today.



-- Edited by morph on Wednesday 22nd of January 2014 08:19:09 PM


So we are, as I suggested, London-occupied Kent.  Time for Kent to reclaim its usurped areas before Boris claims the entire county! 



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Spitey wrote:
sladie wrote:

Postal address reads Welling Kent. So no argument, unless it's wrong on our web site.hmm


 Plenty of room for argument as we're in the London Borough of Bexley!


 So are you saying the address on our web site reads wrong ? biggrin



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Think we are more London boys than carrot crunchers.

smile



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sladie wrote:
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sladie wrote:

Postal address reads Welling Kent. So no argument, unless it's wrong on our web site.hmm


 Plenty of room for argument as we're in the London Borough of Bexley!


 So are you saying the address on our web site reads wrong ? biggrin


The postal address is Kent but we are governed by the administrative area of Bexley, a London Borough within Greater London. The London Postal District (Central London if you like) is smaller than the Greater London Area.

Am happy to embrace London but am proud of Kent heritage!



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Welling have played in a London Borough for all of their senior games. If we really want Bexley to take notice and assist the club shouldn't we stop pretending that we are not part of the borough and accept that, as such, we are a London club?



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From that point of view, as much as I consider Welling to be Kent, if we want the support of the Council, and its their ground we lease, I think we need to adopt London.

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London...London Borough of Bexley....

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london...

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Politically London but geographically Kent. Ask the Post Office.



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Alan S wrote:

Politically London but geographically Kent. Ask the Post Office.


 Welcome back hope your ok :)

From the official post office website our address is

Welling United Football Club
Park View Road
WELLING
DA16 1SY

Seems the PO not interested in counties as some postal areas cross boundary



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Squarevanman wrote:
Alan S wrote:

Politically London but geographically Kent. Ask the Post Office.


 Welcome back hope your ok :)

From the official post office website our address is

Welling United Football Club
Park View Road
WELLING
DA16 1SY

Seems the PO not interested in counties as some postal areas cross boundary


If you are going by postal addresses:

DA postcodes - Kent

SE postcodes - South East London



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Danson Mark wrote:
Squarevanman wrote:
Alan S wrote:

Politically London but geographically Kent. Ask the Post Office.


 Welcome back hope your ok :)

From the official post office website our address is

Welling United Football Club
Park View Road
WELLING
DA16 1SY

Seems the PO not interested in counties as some postal areas cross boundary


If you are going by postal addresses:

DA postcodes - Kent

SE postcodes - South East London


Postcodes can be misleading. Aldershot has a Guildford postcode so presumably they will be shifting over to Surrey.  



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It is clear from the poll that even we Welling fans cannot decide under which of the categories the club should be placed.

One thing I think no one can dispute is that being in this "no man's land" situation has considerable disadvantages for us and other similarly situated clubs such as Bromley and Barnet.

Not only do we as a result not get the radio coverage afforded to nearly every other club at our level, but we have to compete in two of the meaningless County Cup competitions.  Personally I wish we could opt out from both but apparently that is not allowed.

Unfortunately unless there is another local government shake up or post office re-organisation that puts areas such as ours without any doubt into one category or other, I cannot see the disadvantages of the current position being resolved.



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