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Do BT Sport have a contract which states that they have to show every Conference Team at least once? If they do then are we going to receive compensation for not being shown?

If they don't then WUSA should write to the the Conference Board and request a meeting with our board representatives to lodge an official complaint.

We should also contact all the main press outlets stating how unfairly we have been treated.

I have checked the BT site and we are not going to be shown. Have any other clubs been left out? 

What a joke, we are far from being the worst team in this league yet we don't warrant any coverage.

This matter is a joke and one that is not very funny.

 



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Sorry but dont see what this has to do with WUSA or the Conference Board

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I guess that would depend on the agreement that the Conference made with BT Sport

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Sorry but dont see what this has to do with WUSA or the Conference Board


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I was told on good authority that we weren't "eligible" for a home game because our ground wouldn't have adequate facilities for cameras, commentary booth, etc etc. Fair comment perhaps.

However, it is no reason for therefore not showing us in an away game.

Without everyone featuring it is unfair. There should be a clause that states everyone must feature in some way.

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If we cannot negotiate the opening of an available and equipped additional bar facility for home matches, what chance have we got of providing facilities for TV? The home Luton fixture would seem to have been the ideal opportunity for both things to have happened? We need to up our game on marketing and make things happen...there is no point in us just complaining about the things that don't happen. Financially upping our game is not an option if we are going to remain in this league long term...and indeed challenge in it!



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I am sure that if we got an attractive home draw in the FAC, either BT Sport or ITV would find a way round any issues, many small grounds have had TV games in the past.



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Wellington Boot - What do you suggest re marketing and making thinks happen ?

Ive been working with the club for nearly 2 years and feel we have come along way in that time

on and off the pitch.

Things dont just happen at clubs like Welling !!!



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Sorry but it has everything to do with the Conference Board, I would have thought that they have negotiated and signed the deal with BT Sport who have made a claim that every team would be shown but we haven't. What is the problem in asking Mr Strudwick and his associates as to why every team was shown apart from Welling United and I think Nuneaton.
I am a member of WUSA and I thought they represented Supporters interests. What is the harm in writing a letter to the officials at the Conference and asking them why we haven't been shown.
I'm sorry but the excuses about the ground are rubbish, Brackley were on TV at night and our ground is better than that one. We could have been shown away v Dartford and countless other games.

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J Lyman Stone wrote:

Sorry but it has everything to do with the Conference Board, I would have thought that they have negotiated and signed the deal with BT Sport who have made a claim that every team would be shown but we haven't. What is the problem in asking Mr Strudwick and his associates as to why every team was shown apart from Welling United and I think Nuneaton.
I am a member of WUSA and I thought they represented Supporters interests. What is the harm in writing a letter to the officials at the Conference and asking them why we haven't been shown.
I'm sorry but the excuses about the ground are rubbish, Brackley were on TV at night and our ground is better than that one. We could have been shown away v Dartford and countless other games.


None of us know what was in the contract. I reckon the Conference signed whatever BT put in front of them and were not about to insist on equal airtime to all clubs. Let's face it the Premier League do whatever Sky wants and I suspect the Conference is no different. I suspect our ground does have something to do with it as does our boring (to everyone else) mid-table status. If Dartford v Welling had been a 6 pointer then maybe we would have been on the telly but it wasn't. Why would you show Welling away with our relatively small away support that's hardly going to create an impressive atmosphere for the cameras and I'm not sure we would have done much for their viewing figures - the "big" Conference clubs or those near the top or bottom are always more likely to be shown. Anyway that's my view. Frankly if they don't want to show us I don't care, I'll wait until we draw Arsenal at home in the Cup.



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Andrew Nicholson aka Courtjester wrote:
J Lyman Stone wrote:

Sorry but it has everything to do with the Conference Board, I would have thought that they have negotiated and signed the deal with BT Sport who have made a claim that every team would be shown but we haven't. What is the problem in asking Mr Strudwick and his associates as to why every team was shown apart from Welling United and I think Nuneaton.
I am a member of WUSA and I thought they represented Supporters interests. What is the harm in writing a letter to the officials at the Conference and asking them why we haven't been shown.
I'm sorry but the excuses about the ground are rubbish, Brackley were on TV at night and our ground is better than that one. We could have been shown away v Dartford and countless other games.


None of us know what was in the contract. I reckon the Conference signed whatever BT put in front of them and were not about to insist on equal airtime to all clubs. Let's face it the Premier League do whatever Sky wants and I suspect the Conference is no different. I suspect our ground does have something to do with it as does our boring (to everyone else) mid-table status. If Dartford v Welling had been a 6 pointer then maybe we would have been on the telly but it wasn't. Why would you show Welling away with our relatively small away support that's hardly going to create an impressive atmosphere for the cameras and I'm not sure we would have done much for their viewing figures - the "big" Conference clubs or those near the top or bottom are always more likely to be shown. Anyway that's my view. Frankly if they don't want to show us I don't care, I'll wait until we draw Arsenal at home in the Cup.


 You don't care that we are treated unfairly?



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Kevin wrote:
Andrew Nicholson aka Courtjester wrote:
J Lyman Stone wrote:

Sorry but it has everything to do with the Conference Board, I would have thought that they have negotiated and signed the deal with BT Sport who have made a claim that every team would be shown but we haven't. What is the problem in asking Mr Strudwick and his associates as to why every team was shown apart from Welling United and I think Nuneaton.
I am a member of WUSA and I thought they represented Supporters interests. What is the harm in writing a letter to the officials at the Conference and asking them why we haven't been shown.
I'm sorry but the excuses about the ground are rubbish, Brackley were on TV at night and our ground is better than that one. We could have been shown away v Dartford and countless other games.


None of us know what was in the contract. I reckon the Conference signed whatever BT put in front of them and were not about to insist on equal airtime to all clubs. Let's face it the Premier League do whatever Sky wants and I suspect the Conference is no different. I suspect our ground does have something to do with it as does our boring (to everyone else) mid-table status. If Dartford v Welling had been a 6 pointer then maybe we would have been on the telly but it wasn't. Why would you show Welling away with our relatively small away support that's hardly going to create an impressive atmosphere for the cameras and I'm not sure we would have done much for their viewing figures - the "big" Conference clubs or those near the top or bottom are always more likely to be shown. Anyway that's my view. Frankly if they don't want to show us I don't care, I'll wait until we draw Arsenal at home in the Cup.


 You don't care that we are treated unfairly?


 What is actually unfair. Is it fair that certain league clubs end up on Sky whilst others don't? Fair and commercial reality are not the same thing and I will guarantee fair isn't a word in the contract with BT.



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Mr Commercial wrote:

Wellington Boot - What do you suggest re marketing and making thinks happen ?


 Opening up a perfectly good bar for starters! I would probably buy a meal before the match if I could start eating it an hour before rather than be expected to have finished it 90 mins before the match. Ticket carnets could be a good idea whereby you get 6 tickets for the price of 5 and then use them as and when required. You might then introduce a friend to a match? If you use up the carnet you can then buy another! Very good halfway house between season ticketer and casual attender.



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No point opening the Erith Bar. Not one penny of that money would come to Welling.

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Wingnut wrote:
Mr Commercial wrote:

Sorry but dont see what this has to do with WUSA or the Conference Board


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Andrew Nicholson aka Courtjester wrote:
Kevin wrote:
Andrew Nicholson aka Courtjester wrote:
J Lyman Stone wrote:

Sorry but it has everything to do with the Conference Board, I would have thought that they have negotiated and signed the deal with BT Sport who have made a claim that every team would be shown but we haven't. What is the problem in asking Mr Strudwick and his associates as to why every team was shown apart from Welling United and I think Nuneaton.
I am a member of WUSA and I thought they represented Supporters interests. What is the harm in writing a letter to the officials at the Conference and asking them why we haven't been shown.
I'm sorry but the excuses about the ground are rubbish, Brackley were on TV at night and our ground is better than that one. We could have been shown away v Dartford and countless other games.


None of us know what was in the contract. I reckon the Conference signed whatever BT put in front of them and were not about to insist on equal airtime to all clubs. Let's face it the Premier League do whatever Sky wants and I suspect the Conference is no different. I suspect our ground does have something to do with it as does our boring (to everyone else) mid-table status. If Dartford v Welling had been a 6 pointer then maybe we would have been on the telly but it wasn't. Why would you show Welling away with our relatively small away support that's hardly going to create an impressive atmosphere for the cameras and I'm not sure we would have done much for their viewing figures - the "big" Conference clubs or those near the top or bottom are always more likely to be shown. Anyway that's my view. Frankly if they don't want to show us I don't care, I'll wait until we draw Arsenal at home in the Cup.


 You don't care that we are treated unfairly?


 What is actually unfair. Is it fair that certain league clubs end up on Sky whilst others don't? Fair and commercial reality are not the same thing and I will guarantee fair isn't a word in the contract with BT.


 But the rich get richer through TV money. I don't know if the club get any compensation from BT.

Selfishly, I'm delighted that an away game hasn't been moved from a Saturday. Overnight stays at Gateshead, Grimsby and Lincoln have been a drain on my pocket and annual leave allowance and it's not easy to explain using so much of both with a young family at home!



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Andrew Nicholson aka Courtjester wrote:
Kevin wrote:
Andrew Nicholson aka Courtjester wrote:
J Lyman Stone wrote:

Sorry but it has everything to do with the Conference Board, I would have thought that they have negotiated and signed the deal with BT Sport who have made a claim that every team would be shown but we haven't. What is the problem in asking Mr Strudwick and his associates as to why every team was shown apart from Welling United and I think Nuneaton.
I am a member of WUSA and I thought they represented Supporters interests. What is the harm in writing a letter to the officials at the Conference and asking them why we haven't been shown.
I'm sorry but the excuses about the ground are rubbish, Brackley were on TV at night and our ground is better than that one. We could have been shown away v Dartford and countless other games.


None of us know what was in the contract. I reckon the Conference signed whatever BT put in front of them and were not about to insist on equal airtime to all clubs. Let's face it the Premier League do whatever Sky wants and I suspect the Conference is no different. I suspect our ground does have something to do with it as does our boring (to everyone else) mid-table status. If Dartford v Welling had been a 6 pointer then maybe we would have been on the telly but it wasn't. Why would you show Welling away with our relatively small away support that's hardly going to create an impressive atmosphere for the cameras and I'm not sure we would have done much for their viewing figures - the "big" Conference clubs or those near the top or bottom are always more likely to be shown. Anyway that's my view. Frankly if they don't want to show us I don't care, I'll wait until we draw Arsenal at home in the Cup.


 You don't care that we are treated unfairly?


 What is actually unfair. Is it fair that certain league clubs end up on Sky whilst others don't? Fair and commercial reality are not the same thing and I will guarantee fair isn't a word in the contract with BT.


What's unfair is that certain clubs are effectively handed greater income and exposure. I would have thought that obvious. The difference with the football league and premiership is that everyone gets a dividend style payment and/or quarterly payments whether they feature or not. Yes some get more than others but all get something. Our deal as it stands means we get nothing. If that isn't unfair, or doesn't bother you, I'm amazed. 



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What's unfair is that certain clubs are effectively handed greater income and exposure. I would have thought that obvious. The difference with the football league and premiership is that everyone gets a dividend style payment and/or quarterly payments whether they feature or not. Yes some get more than others but all get something. Our deal as it stands means we get nothing. If that isn't unfair, or doesn't bother you, I'm amazed. 


 Do you know that for certain? Don't clubs not featured get any compensation?



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Wellington Boot wrote:

If we cannot negotiate the opening of an available and equipped additional bar facility for home matches, what chance have we got of providing facilities for TV? The home Luton fixture would seem to have been the ideal opportunity for both things to have happened? We need to up our game on marketing and make things happen...there is no point in us just complaining about the things that don't happen. Financially upping our game is not an option if we are going to remain in this league long term...and indeed challenge in it!


 The Erith bar has absolutely nothing to do with Welling United. You might as well say we should demand compensation from Guy the Earl of Warwick for their greater turnover when Welling are at home. Why do TV companies require the opening of that bar anyway?

We need to up our game...      Who is this 'We' to whom you refer? Are you saying we all need to up our game? Are you unaware of how much more sponsorship / advertising etc has been achieved in the last two or three years? This is an insult to the likes of Paul, and all the unsung heroes who work tirelessly behind the scenes to raise the club's profile in the area and bring in extra funds.



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If the WE in WElling WEre to become us, then WE would be much stronger.



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