GaryH wrote:

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No way. At worst he is a rapist, at best him and his mate thought it was fine having sex with a drunken 19 year old. Shame on the football culture that created this era of players acting like porn stars and the football groupies that go with it.

I also wouldn't want to explain to my two kids what he did when they ask why he is getting abuse.

As for a second chance - forget it. If you're in the public eye then I'm afraid that's tough. Try being a painter and decorator where you won't get people paying to watch you undercoat walls.

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if only the normal pressure groups were as keen to find justice in Rotherham for rape rather than use a big broom to brush it all under the carpet....

but anyway he has an appeal coming up so I don't see why this all can't wait until after then. Plus loads of footballers play that have been convicted of worse eg killing a family drunk driving and running away from the scene

I wouldn't want him or Hughes or McCormack for that matter in my club but Evans will get taken on somewhere at some stage whether here or abroad. I am sure we have had players who had criminal tendencies in the past although not as serious or as well publicised as Mr Evans case has been.

I give players stick week in week out regardless of their past crimes to be honest!

What really grated with me at the Plymouth game last year was the way the home fans almost treated McCormack as a God when he came on singing songs in his "honour" Whether they are supporting their player and/or trying to goad the opposition fans was not clear but it left a bad taste with me and others.

I'm just baffled as to why this kind of witch hunt didn't occur when Marlon King was released from prison for sexual assault. Likewise as other's have said with Lee Hughes and Luke McCormick who actually killed people.

Ched Evans has done his time. If it's that big a problem why doesn't a club put a clause in his contract where X% of his salary goes to charity like rape crisis.

WingsTillIDie wrote:

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I'm just baffled as to why this kind of witch hunt didn't occur when Marlon King was released from prison for sexual assault. Likewise as other's have said with Lee Hughes and Luke McCormick who actually killed people.

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It may be as someone pointed out earlier, he has an appeal still to come, which means he still doesn't believe he did anything wrong.

What I find amusing in all this role model guff is that it okay not to employ him because he is a bad role model but at what point does anyone consider being a good role model for the legal system we have, i.e. you do the crime, serve the time, are not REQUIRED to apologise and are supposed to be rehabilitated (as I understand it, although I am sure Courtjester can correct me). Or are we not interested in teaching people the hard inconvenient facts of the legal system we have, just the soft, easy targets.

Football is not a proscribed profession for a sex offender. If you don't like the law, get it changed!!

Having read the rejected appeal transcript, it is a salutory tale of lack of respect for others and yourself, whether it be the presumption that sex can and should be had with anyone from casual acquaintance to complete stranger or that you should get sufficiently inebriated you lose control of yourself and your surroundings.

And that may well be a very valuable lesson to explain to your children if the role model (because not all are good) Ched Evans turns up on a pitch near you.....

Shows no remorse for his actions he can go back to his rock and stay there......

J wrote:

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if only the normal pressure groups were as keen to find justice in Rotherham for rape rather than use a big broom to brush it all under the carpet....

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What makes you think they're not?

tannoyman wrote:

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Hughes and McCormack, regardless of what you think of them, have served their time and accepted the punishment which makes it slightly different.

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 Why? He has accepted the punishment by doing the time whether he accepts the initial charge on not. Didn't have much choice and even if the appeal succeeds he will still have served that time.

cj wrote:

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The most important question is how has his bird stayed with him.

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 Difficult to understand why. My first thought was that she's a wanna be wag and likes the money. However,  it appears her family are minted (her old man is funding his appeal)

If I was her old man I wouldn't want her anywhere near him. Even if (and it's a very big if) he didn't rape the girl, he obviously didn't give a second thought to his partner. 

tannoyman wrote:

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If his appeal is successful then that would be a different matter, but I don't believe it will and it would send the wrong message if it is.

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So, were his appeal to be successful say on an arcane point of law, which neither you or I might agree with, but is nevertheless the law, the wrong message you consider that would be given out is that the law is indeed the law even if it happens to be inconvenient to a current popular cause celebre.

The day that is not actually the right message, you and I had both better hope we never have cause to appear in court. And before you tell me how unlikey that is because you are a law abiding citizen, consider how many people in Zimbabwe once thought that and now, to their misfortune, know differently...

Daveyboy1973 wrote:

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Can't we find something about welling to talk about now? I'm bored of reading about him

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 Why was this thread allowed to be started and added to on this main site in the first place?  I seem to remember my posting about Jamie Day, and speculation about him moving to Ebbsfleet, was shifted promptly, not once but twice, to "off topic".  This, in my opinion, is far more off topic but is allowed to stay here, why?

Mr Commercial wrote:

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Agree Jeff , Why is he even getting airtime

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 probably because we are inactive on the pitch for 13 days and we have a forum that commences with, "Coach travel to Forest Green"!!