No point in panicking at this stage in the season. With such a young squad and most probably the lowest budget in the league, this season was always going to be tough.
Hopefully the lads can keep their chins up, and just look forward to the next game.
Regarding the attendance of 521, it looks like the novelty for away fans of visiting Welling has well and truly worn off now. One of the reasons I was slightly gutted that BT chose Tranmere as our televised fixture is that prior to that it potentially could have meant a decent number of away fans visiting. In reality many will probably just stay at home and watch it on TV instead...
We are in trouble already....need to beat the likes of Braintree .....
The team survived last season on goal difference, the squad has lost some good players, but the defeats are only by the odd goal, it could be worse, but most would take survival if offerred right now.
Reality is:-
we are not good enough to play 3 at the back. To do this we would need players at the capability of Fyfield who can do centre half and full back at constant top level standards. Nothing against the blokes we have they just lack the depth and experience
We need to create and compete in midfield. Presently we have people who are not doing this ala Braintree and previous home games
up front we need a decent striker or two. little seemed to have been seen today or before to persuade otherwise
All this goes to show Faz is not the messiah. He has chosen the team based on the budget he had available and should be judged as such. An assessment of where we are should be made at Christmas this is when the season really starts after suspensions and injuries kick in
This isn't intended as negative just a view from where I am. Some may see different and I don't argue with them that's there opinion. Fact is we are punching above our weight and have done since we have been in this league. That alone is some achievement but beyond reality if we expect to be in this division next year bearing in mind the competition already there
The season does not really start at Christmas, it has started already. Waiting until halfway through the season to take action will lead to relegation.
I've seen all but one game this season, friendlies included, and the faults in terms of personnel and tactics are fairly obvious for me and most of the regulars I stand with/around. Harsh decisions are needed promptly to rectify the faults.
"Excuses" like "we are punching above our weight" aren't acceptable and is defeatist. Yes, we have a low budget, but whether the smallest or biggest budget in the league, when you notice something is wrong, you need to take action and correct it.
Lokko, Chambers, Jefford, Lee and Corne are the only people regularly performing to their level at the moment. King too apart from one major error, and Vidal and Porter both putting the yards in, but not in areas of the field they should be used.
-- Edited by Kevin on Saturday 29th of August 2015 09:45:17 PM
Sadly losing by the odd goal has made us 5th from bottom is the reality check. But a win on Monday can change all that.
I accept all the budget etc comments but in my view for what it is worth we need to play to people strengths to compensate for the low budget,
Again only opinion as I see it: Kabba and Porter will close down defenders and false them into making mistakes. put them on together. Reece is more dangerous on the left play him there. Wellard need to play in a central role today he got the ball and was cutting inside and the defender's knew what he was going to do and tackled him. King has a effective big kick the players should know roughly were it is going to land a midfielder flicks in on or shield it to let it bounce for Kabba or Porter to run on too today we flicked it on and nobody was their and all we did was give back possession.
If we are going to play with a big fella up front instruct him to stay between the width of the D which will either prevent the central defender moving across to support the full back and thus if the winger beats the fullback the winger should get more crosses into the danger area or if the central defender moves across the space will be available around the danger area where the striker is waiting. today our striker kept going wide to support the winger.
Having two big men up front does not work for me, today both were occupying the same space but if we are going to have this as a pairing they need to work together with using the width of the D as starting point and not enter each other space
-- Edited by morph on Saturday 29th of August 2015 09:53:27 PM
"Excuses" like "we are punching above our weight" aren't acceptable and is defeatist. Yes, we have a low budget, but whether the smallest or biggest budget in the league, when you notice something is wrong, you need to take action and correct it.
-- Edited by Kevin on Saturday 29th of August 2015 09:45:17 PM
Really? We have tiny crowds and, it seems, we are struggling commercially from what's been said in the programme. So if we want better quality players then we need to pay higher wages and how does the club do that. For whatever reason local business people don't seem to be rushing to put their hands in their pockets for their local club. We are punching above our weight. It's a fact.
"Excuses" like "we are punching above our weight" aren't acceptable and is defeatist. Yes, we have a low budget, but whether the smallest or biggest budget in the league, when you notice something is wrong, you need to take action and correct it.
-- Edited by Kevin on Saturday 29th of August 2015 09:45:17 PM
Really? We have tiny crowds and, it seems, we are struggling commercially from what's been said in the programme. So if we want better quality players then we need to pay higher wages and how does the club do that. For whatever reason local business people don't seem to be rushing to put their hands in their pockets for their local club. We are punching above our weight. It's a fact.
We are punching above our weight in terms of division given the ground, crowds, finances, etc. But a lot of it is self-inflicted.
My point was that we can't sit and use excuses, be it budget or otherwise. Whether bottom or top, when things aren't working, they need correcting. We have several players not performing, several not good enough, and several injured. "we've a poor budget" won't keep us up, action will.
I found it strange that when porter came off kabba didn't go on. To me we need one of those two chasing down everything to force mistakes and run onto the long balls. Afo or Tash will not do that job.
Going on what I've seen so far this season I don't see anything other than a relegation battle. I don't see a team that will or can dominate the opposition. We've not been on top in any game, including our only win against Guiseley. Pretty much one shot on target all game which was our goal. Braintree, who ain't that good enjoyed the most of possession and territory. Their back 4 had pipes and slippers. This shouldn't be happening in home games. Fortress PVR. mmmmm.. I'm not seeing that at all. I hope the management and players prove me wrong but lower bottom half of the table is where we are as a team at the moment and I can't see that changing anytime soon.
Some good comments on here but feel we also need to look at our management team. Great lads and their optimistic and positive outlook is to be admired but for this level all three have no experience apart from Faz in terms of playing. When Daisy got the job he immediately turned to Barry Ashby as someone who is very experienced with 500 plus league games so knows what he is talking about. Also I often watched Barry before games preparing the back four and passing on his experience . Yesterday saw us try to play out from the back and especially in the first half we lost the ball every time. I do not think Ashby would have let that happen
I am not for one moment suggesting a change of the management team but an older experienced head, such as Barry joining this team could make a difference .
If we are looking to 'dominate' teams, that comes from possession does it not? In all my time playing sport and watching it, how many teams do you see who play the long ball tactic (that everyone would rather us do) achieve that?
We either try and play good possession football, which in my eyes is always when I have seen Welling play their best football and win games, but we may have to expect the odd mistake. Or do we want to admit we are far from good enough to do that and resort to long ball tactics meaning we have little possession and relying on mistakes from the opposition to score like we did yesterday?
I feel sorry for porter...He won't stick around long I don't think, too good for us and he has no support up there, tashan adeyinka is not a footballer..looks like he don't even know where he is half the time, can't jump, can't pass or shoot and his first touch would send you to prison yet gets bought on for our best player...:/
"The season does not really start at Christmas, it has started already. Waiting until halfway through the season to take action will lead to relegation"
Yes your right it has started and things do need to happen now. I was merely indicating that most leagues do not start sorting themselves out until this time, I do not expect clubs currentyl in the bottom four of many tables or at thetop in some instances to be there at the end of the season so in some instances its a false position currently. The strength of depth of many squads will be tested come periods after this when the injuries and suspensions kick in. My fear is that we do not have that currently let alone later on
I think everyone would agree that it's going to be a long hard season with every point vital. The defence looks too fragile at the moment and the attacking force will not worry anyone as things stand. There is a lot of effort being put in, in mid-field, but it's just not making the best of what talent is in front, or behind them. No simple answers but I take the view that you cannot loose if you don't concede, so start by playing 4 at the back and 5 in mid-field, with the 1 up front a big tough target man who can hold the ball up, or run onto the big booted clearances from King. But the main effort now is probably needed to keep the team working together with spirits high.
I think everyone would agree that it's going to be a long hard season with every point vital. The defence looks too fragile at the moment and the attacking force will not worry anyone as things stand. There is a lot of effort being put in, in mid-field, but it's just not making the best of what talent is in front, or behind them. No simple answers but I take the view that you cannot loose if you don't concede, so start by playing 4 at the back and 5 in mid-field, with the 1 up front a big tough target man who can hold the ball up, or run onto the big booted clearances from King. But the main effort now is probably needed to keep the team working together with spirits high.
Absolutley agree with Oldoaks commentsw here. In addition I'd also add that Harris should be used down the left side, as morph suggested, and Porter should we deployed down the right. Unfortunatley this squad lacks the '1 big tough target man who can hold the ball up'. Tobi Sho Silva would be an excellent loan signing for us in this role.
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If we are looking to 'dominate' teams, that comes from possession does it not? In all my time playing sport and watching it, how many teams do you see who play the long ball tactic (that everyone would rather us do) achieve that?
We either try and play good possession football, which in my eyes is always when I have seen Welling play their best football and win games, but we may have to expect the odd mistake. Or do we want to admit we are far from good enough to do that and resort to long ball tactics meaning we have little possession and relying on mistakes from the opposition to score like we did yesterday?
At this level of football it is not so much about 'possession', that much obsessed about TV statistic, but about territory, chances created and general attacking pressure.
We are not good enough to out-pass other Confrence clubs. Our lads should never decline a chance to get the ball in to the box. This may not be what they were taught at their academies but they must learn that this is the reality of matchplay in the lower leagues. If we are organised and willing to work hard as a team we can win games.
Time to start winning ugly.
COYW
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I don't think the formation has anything to do with it. As far as I can see Saturday was the first time we played the three at the back system since the season started?! The team looked at sixes and sevens for the first twenty minutes or so which may or may not have been down to three at the back?? From the outside looking in the whole thing looks muddled. We had a so called favoured system, didn't employ it for five games and then introduce it out of the blue against Braintree. I didn't understand the tactics and the substitutions were just bizarre?!
The crux of the matter is that we don't look like scoring goals. The recruitment has been poor and we have gone for spreading the load by employing three very very average strikers when we should have gone for one quality striker. This mistake has been compounded by putting them all on contract and leaving very little room for manoeuvre. Of course we might get an injury but then again we might not. I think Braintree must have erected a force field around their six yard box because I never saw a Welling "striker" enter it at any point during the match. The knock on effect from having no goals in the team means that the keeper and defenders are on tenterhooks all game because they know pretty much one mistake will lead to a defeat (or a draw at best) and this anxiety filters through the rest of the team.
I am not convinced by the keeper at all but I think the defence and midfield in general is more than good enough for this division. All the pundits say that the hardest thing to do in football is putting the ball in the net and this is definitely the case for us. Haven't seen enough of Kabba yet but, with the exception of Porter who at least seems to care and puts a shift in, the other forwards are nowhere near good enough for this level of football.
