Three players (Jefford, Corne and Vidal) currently on four yellows and one game away from suspension.
We can seldom do without any of those players let alone two or three
Interesting calls to be made for the game at the weekend.....
Rest all three Saturday, one or two on the bench. Play Nortey in midfield with Lee and a choice from Wellard, Harris, Semedo or Fagan if he is fit. Play King. Sorted.
Also, while the players concerned are honest and hard-working, I think it would play on their minds that a slip or two, or a misjudgement by the ref, could cost them a place in the Cup match. Probably, on that basis, better not to play them at all as it could affect their game.
Normally I would agree with you Mark that league games should take prioritu but this cup tie could be so massive to the club financially in terms of the prize money on offer for a win and, more importantly, what could happen in round 2 when most of the clubs in the draw are likely to be football league clubs, I wouldn't be unhappy if the players on four yellows are rested at Guiseley. Guiseley are on a bad run at present and with the loan players back I think there would still be a good chance of picking up points there without those three.
After the match on Sunday one of the excuses for the poor performance was that there were 11 player unavailable to play, surely bringing some of these back into the team on Saturday, and resting the guys with too many yellows must be viable. Given our financial constraints I'd certainly focus on the cup match.
Still stick to best team every time......whatever will be will be....there are only a certain amount of very winnable games in this league and Guisely is one of them
Still stick to best team every time......whatever will be will be....there are only a certain amount of very winnable games in this league and Guisely is one of them
The problem is that three members of the "best team" may or may not be able to give of their best because the thought of suspension is at the back of their minds. We have fresh players who are not allowed to play in the FA cup - play them all on Saturday and reshuffle the team. Barwell is a massive game which, with entry into the next round, could provide the finances to further improve the team and to retain our key players for future league games. Of course, the other issue is whether Barwell's pitch will suit players like Xavi Vidal.
I am all for playing the best team but our resources for Cup games are threadbare enough as it is and losing one or more of those players would seriously damage our chances at Barwell. Of course it could all go pear shaped in the Cup game anyway and then "resting" them would look foolish. So....
A) Play all three to try and secure a potential 3 points in a league game against a team around the same level as us at the end of October with over half the season to go or
B) Rest all three and give ourselves the best possible chance to win £18k and potentially more revenue from participating in the second round.
I never thought I would say this but I am edging towards option B.
Regardless of suspension, would Faz and co not have thought about resting Vidal and Corne anyway? We have replacements for these guys who should be fresh legged and ready to play against a team who played 120 mins on Tuesday?
The tricky ones are Jefford & McEntegart. Jefford who I think we don't have anyone who could play at left back half as well as he does week in week out. Unless we reshuffle and go to 3 at the back. McEntegart, I personally believe King is a better GK but to be fair to McEntegart he had a great game on Tuesday, do we want to knock his confidence before the FA cup in which he will be playing?
The other thing is that Barwell have Leamington in the Trophy on Saturday. Would be nice for that to go to a replay next week (unless they have already decided to jointly implement a single game agreement)
My mistake I thought it was Forest Green at home Tuesday coming but it not, it the following Tuesday, anyway still best team possible for Saturday in my book.
I don't suppose London Senior Cup matches count towards serving suspensions, just incurring them. Kent Senior Cup likewise - a pity because these matches could then be taken a mite more seriously.
I don't suppose London Senior Cup matches count towards serving suspensions, just incurring them. Kent Senior Cup likewise - a pity because these matches could then be taken a mite more seriously.
I don't think they would be taken more seriously, it would just mean the first teamers have a different reason for missing them.
Normally I would agree with you Mark that league games should take prioritu but this cup tie could be so massive to the club financially in terms of the prize money on offer for a win and, more importantly, what could happen in round 2 when most of the clubs in the draw are likely to be football league clubs, I wouldn't be unhappy if the players on four yellows are rested at Guiseley. Guiseley are on a bad run at present and with the loan players back I think there would still be a good chance of picking up points there without those three.
The romance of the cup vs the bread and butter of the league - to me this is a total no brainer - the league MUST take priority.
The season's precept must obviously be, we want to win every game we play, and go to Barwell to try and win an additional £5,500 prize money, then if successful a chance, just a chance remember, of another £9k by beating whatever second round opponents are thrown at us. But at what price if our better players are rested for the league and points lost as a result? I am certain the National league will bring in more than the additional £14.5k that on paper we MAY have a chance of? I stand to be corrected but think just one TV appearance in the National league will cover the cup prize money we hope for.
I trust Faz and his team to ensure we select the best available for the job at Guisely tomorrow. I can understand that if Kabba, and Jefford (who will be most missed if not there) are sore, then maybe a week off will be beneficial, and no doubt some of those who have been featuring in just the cup team including McEntegart, understand the score, and their confidence will not be affected by them being on the bench.
As things stand we are on target for the magical 50 points and just need to draw every league game from here! But with Forest Green (H) and Grimsby (A) as our next opponents, it makes it crucial to me to bring something back from Guisley in order we stay on the survival track. Three points from those three games will keep the status quo towards the 50. Now which game looks our best chance, and which games look best for serving out suspensions? Lets hope after Grimsby we will be commenting on 9 points gained, a cup win and no further yellow or red cards! Damn, who just woke me up!!!!
Bexleylion is gracefully licking his wounds and acknowledges his misinterpretations of the cup prize money! Indeed, it appears the prize at stake for beating Barwell is £18k and for the possible victory in round 2, a further £27k and the chance of a tv game - that puts me back in the mix, especially as I can find no information relating to the worth of finishing 20th or above in the National league. Anyone got any ideas? I think I would go for the best team for the job in hand week by week irrespective of the competition and the possible accrued suspensions?
-- Edited by bexleylion on Friday 30th of October 2015 09:15:57 PM
The romance of the cup vs the bread and butter of the league - to me this is a total no brainer - the league MUST take priority.
The season's precept must obviously be, we want to win every game we play, and go to Barwell to try and win an additional £5,500 prize money, then if successful a chance, just a chance remember, of another £9k by beating whatever second round opponents are thrown at us. But at what price if our better players are rested for the league and points lost as a result? I am certain the National league will bring in more than the additional £14.5k that on paper we MAY have a chance of? I stand to be corrected but think just one TV appearance in the National league will cover the cup prize money we hope for.
I trust Faz and his team to ensure we select the best available for the job at Guisely tomorrow. I can understand that if Kabba, and Jefford (who will be most missed if not there) are sore, then maybe a week off will be beneficial, and no doubt some of those who have been featuring in just the cup team including McEntegart, understand the score, and their confidence will not be affected by them being on the bench.
As things stand we are on target for the magical 50 points and just need to draw every league game from here! But with Forest Green (H) and Grimsby (A) as our next opponents, it makes it crucial to me to bring something back from Guisley in order we stay on the survival track. Three points from those three games will keep the status quo towards the 50. Now which game looks our best chance, and which games look best for serving out suspensions? Lets hope after Grimsby we will be commenting on 9 points gained, a cup win and no further yellow or red cards! Damn, who just woke me up!!!!
Good stuff, Welling got 12.5k for beating Grays and would get 18k if they beat Barwell. cracking post.
The romance of the cup vs the bread and butter of the league - to me this is a total no brainer - the league MUST take priority.
The season's precept must obviously be, we want to win every game we play, and go to Barwell to try and win an additional £5,500 prize money, then if successful a chance, just a chance remember, of another £9k by beating whatever second round opponents are thrown at us. But at what price if our better players are rested for the league and points lost as a result? I am certain the National league will bring in more than the additional £14.5k that on paper we MAY have a chance of? I stand to be corrected but think just one TV appearance in the National league will cover the cup prize money we hope for.
I trust Faz and his team to ensure we select the best available for the job at Guisely tomorrow. I can understand that if Kabba, and Jefford (who will be most missed if not there) are sore, then maybe a week off will be beneficial, and no doubt some of those who have been featuring in just the cup team including McEntegart, understand the score, and their confidence will not be affected by them being on the bench.
As things stand we are on target for the magical 50 points and just need to draw every league game from here! But with Forest Green (H) and Grimsby (A) as our next opponents, it makes it crucial to me to bring something back from Guisley in order we stay on the survival track. Three points from those three games will keep the status quo towards the 50. Now which game looks our best chance, and which games look best for serving out suspensions? Lets hope after Grimsby we will be commenting on 9 points gained, a cup win and no further yellow or red cards! Damn, who just woke me up!!!!
Good stuff, Welling got 12.5k for beating Grays and would get 18k if they beat Barwell. cracking post.
It is not cumulative though - 12.5 k already in the bank and another 18k on top of that for beating Barwell.
Also that could mean a second round game on the telly. Full game on BT Sport gets 67.5k for both teams and even a Sunday highlights on BBC gets something like 12.5k as well.
Hang on, I thought we already have £12,500 in the kitty for beating Grays and then we get another £15,000 or so if we beat Barwell earning the club about £27,000 or so? If that is the case, rest all the players on four bookings.
Hang on, I thought we already have £12,500 in the kitty for beating Grays and then we get another £15,000 or so if we beat Barwell earning the club about £27,000 or so? If that is the case, rest all the players on four bookings.
Correct therefore FA Cup is the priority, most Welling fans would agree. The league will take care of itself and a good run in the cup could help Loui strengthen. The post by Bexleywings is codswallop. Excuse my obviously excellent sarcasm in my previous post.
-- Edited by TheGhostOfJodyBrown on Friday 30th of October 2015 04:22:06 PM
Hang on, I thought we already have £12,500 in the kitty for beating Grays and then we get another £15,000 or so if we beat Barwell earning the club about £27,000 or so? If that is the case, rest all the players on four bookings.
Correct therefore FA Cup is the priority, most Welling fans would agree. The league will take care of itself and a good run in the cup could help Loui strengthen. The post by Bexleywings is codswallop. Excuse my obviously excellent sarcasm in my previous post.
-- Edited by TheGhostOfJodyBrown on Friday 30th of October 2015 04:22:06 PM
Bexleylion is gracefully licking his wounds and acknowledges his earlier misinterpretations of the cup prize money! Indeed, it appears the prize at stake for beating Barwell is £18k and for the possible victory in round 2, a further £27k and the chance of a tv game - that puts me back in the mix, especially as I can find no information relating to the worth of finishing 20th or above in the National league. Anyone got any ideas? I think I would go for the best team for the job in hand week by week irrespective of the competition and the possible accrued suspensions?
