I think it is the Cup matches that are losing us league points lately - good players want their spot in the limelight and the shop window and are probably anxious about bookings, red cards and injuries, and, putting youselves into that situation, who can blame them? I  just hope that on the big day against Carlisle the team turns up and does not freeze  - they owe that to themselves and to us.  Meanwhile, Lincoln up next  - time for KSA and larger units to play ahead of flair players who should be used sparingly.

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It really does anger me seeing people slagging off the management team. What do we realistically expect them to do?

- How often will a club of our size and stature find a 15-20+ goal a year striker? Even if we are lucky enough we will likely lose them very quickly.
- I wasn't there on Saturday, but I get the impression many of the players have off days, it happens. From the interview they gave it clearly shows they will be telling the players it was far from good enough and others will be given a chance. That's what managers/management teams do. Without endless resources we can't just get new players in.
- We do not see the players at training all week, I assume they play people on merit.
- Wellard, yes he has some pretty ropey games, but how many assists has he got? I often see him play good intelligent balls through, not sure he gets enough credit for that.

I get no fan likes to see a terrible performance from the team they support, but do some people need a reality check? Unless we get serious investment or magically get 1200+a week we will always be in the lower half of the table always looking over our shoulder and experience bad games and bad runs. Then again Faz kept us in the league and went on a really good run earlier in the year and we are in the second round of the FA cup. In my eyes its far from the end of the world!

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 Spot on!

Having a go at the management for yesterday and calling for them to be sacked is lunacy. I ran out of fingers to keep count of the times the management team gave specific instructions to individuals only to be pretty much ignored.

Luckily we've got compettion in the squad and players who will be training hard for a place in the squad against Lincoln and Carlisle.

bexleylion wrote:

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Then "Faza's notes" leaf of my programme yesterday, contained his notes constructed prior to the Chester game which was played on 22nd September, and player stats up to that game too! Must have impressed Southport purchasers?

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 My programme has the correct Faza's notes and player stats appear to be up to date too. 

Danson Mark wrote:

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bexleylion wrote:

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Then "Faza's notes" leaf of my programme yesterday, contained his notes constructed prior to the Chester game which was played on 22nd September, and player stats up to that game too! Must have impressed Southport purchasers?

-- Edited by bexleylion on Sunday 22nd of November 2015 02:53:22 PM

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 My programme has the correct Faza's notes and player stats appear to be up to date too. 

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 Thanks Mr Commercial for attaching Faza's notes, I shall drop my programme in for you to investigate when I am passing!?? Perhaps it could become a valuable collectors item? Can only presume I got an erroneous copy that somehow picked up a wrong page link at the printers perhaps? Spooky though if mine was the only one...

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I get your point totally...my job has changed and I work all week plus a lot of weekends....but...I coukd change flights etc to go to the games...nothing fills me with the idea I should do so.....I get 2 or 3 people who ARE at the game letting me know what it is like but words like...terrible...clueless....shocking...no ideas doesnt fill me with the enthusiasm

I fear the cup iscalso killing us right now....money earned is not benefitting the team....their minds are probably on 2 weeks time and the BBC cameras......the game against Guisely is as predicted coming to haunt us

Do I think we can go to Lincoln and get a win....right now...no chance

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Which games Mark? Like you I have to work some weekends and the evening games can be impossible and, like you, I've questioned whether I can be bothered to spend quite a lot of money going to Lincoln after Saturday, but on balance I will because if I gave up after watching a poor performance or two  I would have stopped watching Welling a very long time ago. I was at Guisely which was very poor but then we had three games where the level of performance was much improved before Saturday. Personally I don't think our supporters help turning on players, if they hear what's being said it must do wonders for their confidence. 

Andrew Nicholson aka Courtjester wrote:

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Personally I don't think our supporters help turning on players, if they hear what's being said it must do wonders for their confidence. 

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 I'm with you on this. I won't shout criticism at our players nor will I pick on individuals on here because I don't see how calling someone useless will motivate them to play better.

However, I can see the other side of the argument. It is not cheap getting into football matches even with the early bird season ticket and people are entitled to voice their views. 

Yesterday's performance was truly awful so it is not surprising that people were/are upset.

I find losing to relegation rivals Boreham Wood, Guiseley & Southport without scoring a goal & playing appallingly in all three games deeply, deeply concerning. 

We going to make up the points we threw a way against Guiseley by resting players, apparently. We can afford to sack off games , we're that good with that much strength in depth.

Firstly, I was not there on Saturday

Secondly I do not expect our team to go out and set the agenda at Grimsby, Tranmere, Cheltenham and other big guns in the league. Given we aren't going to do that and we may not pick up much as a result, we absolutely MUST go out and set the agenda POSITIVELY against teams around us. At the moment we seem to be in the former mind set against everyone and I don't think that will work long term.

Finally I realise I am an old scrote and not everyone who contributes to this board was around last time we were relegated. I cannot think of one time we 'went for it' until the penultimate game of the season, at home to the league leaders R&D and subsequently let in the goals that led to our demise. Can we not leave it until we are boxed in a corner with only difficult options this time? Last time we may have wound up with exactly the same outcome if we had been more positive however I would have at least not spent the subsequent twelve years thinking we didn't give ourselves a proper chance!