KOTR wrote:

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Wellingking.
You started thread.
You asked the ?s
Put your thoughts answers up

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 I am just as clueless thats why I am asking. I have heard the manager of Thamesmead is good or VCD but apart from that what is better than what we have? 

This forum is a joke....Keith mcmayon from vcd...get a ****ing life.

Tom why don't you just come out...will whatever his name done it from x factor...anyway people's views on this forum are no better than Hitler. It's best to say **** all then talk bollocks..

Chris wrote:

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TheGhostOfJodyBrown wrote:

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Agreed, Nobody at a struggling Ryman club should be anywhere near the job if it became vacant. Its rumoured we get loads applying and often some names, so take a chance on a name who might have some clout and respect and be able to bring in players. Someone who has proved they have contacts and success is the bare minimum.

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 Do you not think Keith McMahon has good local contacts from VCD and Thamesmead? His achievements include promotion from the Ryman League North with Thamesmead.  

There are always lots who apply and lots more who are active in leagues below who would be interested but the club needs to approach them in the correct way. However managers who are currently in the Ryman League may be the best we can hope for. I think I'd prefer that to an ex pro who is used to greater resources or a youth team coach who struggles to adapt to managing in senior football. Much of the problem that we are in stems from the clubs decision to effectively go full time with the 3 daytime sessions a week training. That has created a rod for our own back in terms of the players we can bring in. 

So anyway some names

Jamie Day

Barry Ashby

Dean Frost

Keith McMahon

Tony Russell (Cray Wanders boss)

Richard Hill

Justin Merritt (current Oxford City manager)

Alan Devonshire

 

 

 

 

 

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 I think for that entire list I can answer either "we definitely can't afford them" or "Are you kidding?!"

-- Edited by WingsTillIDie on Sunday 6th of December 2015 10:49:53 PM

A few more that I've thought about overnight and this morning...

Mark Stimpson

Peter Taylor

Liam Daish

Bobby Wilkinson (Hungerford Town manager)

Jimmy Dack

Phil Handford

Dean Holdsworth

Steve Lomas

Iffy Onura

Nicky Southall

Dean Brennan ( Hemel Hempstead manager) 

Chris wrote:

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A few more that I've thought about overnight and this morning...

Mark Stimpson

Peter Taylor

Liam Daish

Bobby Wilkinson (Hungerford Town manager)

Jimmy Dack

Phil Handford

Dean Holdsworth

Steve Lomas

Iffy Onura

Nicky Southall

Dean Brennan ( Hemel Hempstead manager) 

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 Are you trying to assemble a vets team or looking for a new manager?!?!

If Jamie Day can't/won't come back then Phil Handford is the one name that might merit consideration.

Has done a lot of work at this level for FGR, knows how this club operates and was around during a very successful era at the club - that assumes he would be interested of course.

Gavin Rose was the manager for us after Jamie left. Missed opportunity.

Another option is to quit moaning and get behind Faz 100% considering you all demanded he gets the job after being catertaker despite knowing he had no mangerial experience.Hes bound to make mistakes and i sure Jamie Day made errors at the start.Its disgusting people want him gone so soon,we must give him a season at least to prove his worth.

Odin73 wrote:

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Another option is to quit moaning and get behind Faz 100% considering you all demanded he gets the job after being catertaker despite knowing he had no mangerial experience.Hes bound to make mistakes and i sure Jamie Day made errors at the start.Its disgusting people want him gone so soon,we must give him a season at least to prove his worth.

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 Hear, hear!

ide rather be a yo yo club then a team that gives managers 6 months....we have been relegated once in 40 years unless im mistaken.

If the other 3 are the ones with the managerial experience then perhaps its them that should go...were they Faz's picks?

Odin73 wrote:

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If the other 3 are the ones with the managerial experience then perhaps its them that should go...were they Faz's picks?

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 Faz has run Total Football Performance with Matt McEntegart for a number of years, so yes. 

Sorry but I just don't agree with so many comments about Louis
Yes I would not have played KSA and one or two others but to me when Louis kept us up last year that entitles him to this season
Booing at the end of the game (fortunately not seen on tv highlights) would not encourage anyone who came to the game who is not regular to come back
We lost against a team a league higher, full time and with some referees decisions in their favour
We are not in the relegation zone and with our budget and part time status probably and realistically where I would have expected us to be - we are quite clearly one of the minnows of this league

For me Louis has this season - If we get relegated that leaves us in the same position as would have been had Jody lasted any longer

The Peoples Poet wrote:

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Sorry but I just don't agree with so many comments about Louis
Yes I would not have played KSA and one or two others but to me when Louis kept us up last year that entitles him to this season
Booing at the end of the game (fortunately not seen on tv highlights) would not encourage anyone who came to the game who is not regular to come back
We lost against a team a league higher, full time and with some referees decisions in their favour
We are not in the relegation zone and with our budget and part time status probably and realistically where I would have expected us to be - we are quite clearly one of the minnows of this league

For me Louis has this season - If we get relegated that leaves us in the same position as would have been had Jody lasted any longer

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No no no no and no again - he/they did not keep us up - Alfreton kept us up by being useless and letting in more goals than us last season. We got 12 points in 11 games under the current trio which is hardly earth shattering stuff.

On the basis that we did survive I can understand why they were given a crack at the job but we are still around a point a game (and much worse than that over the last 10 games) so we won't be staying  up unless changes are made. Winning a couple of cup games against vastly inferior teams is just papering over the cracks.

Let's bear in mind the mess we got in this time last year where we hired a new manager at a time when he had 3-4 games in 7-10 days with no training session in between, and not even the opportunity to meet the players before going into crucial games.

If Faz were to go today hypothetically then we could interview and hire prior to Xmas. If we dont then he'll have to stay over Xmas really, no matter how bad it gets, or sack him and we'd play without a manager, and by the time we then interview and hire in second week of January it could be too late.

A change of manager alone is not the answer, the club also needs a complete overall restructure of the club.


I am fairly confident that this club could become a division 2 club within 5 years if it wanted to.


However to achieve this the board would need to be open and be prepared to allow positive changes within the club from the top to the bottom or the bottom to the top.



(Yes I did say Division 2 Club within 5 years.)

-- Edited by morph on Tuesday 8th of December 2015 03:47:23 PM

OldOak2 wrote:

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If anyone "kept us up" it was Rosco. The performance on Sunday was bad, KSA was useless and, for me, the post match interview with the three amigos said it all - they were all smiles and not a word of apology to the fans for the p*** poor performance. If they think they did a good job preparing the team then they need to be replaced. BUT as pointed out elsewhere we are still above the drop zone and a few good results over Christmas could see us set up for a good run into the end of the season. BUT if the Christmas matches don't yield at least 2 points a game on average then the team management must change in time for a new manager to save us from the drop. So I'd say time is running out for Faz & Co, but not yet the end.

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 I think the result on Sunday should not be the reason for the sack. The management selections were bizarre and that if anything is consistent but it is consistently poor. They all tried hard on Sunday though crazy to put KSA in I think that was just setting him up for  failure and showed that the fortunes of Welling United are not safe in their hands.  I still do not understand why Loui is happy with the team and does not want to add to it, is he worried that that is an admission of poor management? what happened to the defender Fitchett he looked ok on trial. It is a worse situation than last year we dont have Rosco and Vose to get us out of trouble. Gavin Rose or Ashby would be good to take over because we need a tough manager to get this lot caring about the shirt they put on its not enough in dribs and drabs it needs to be every game. 

KOTR wrote:

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League 2 rubbish

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 maybe now with the team with have at present it is unachievable but with new investment and a plan it could work but people have to be ambitious. Why not?

Park Football - National conference 50 years so why not league 2 in 5 years


Southampton nearly went bust in the championship and are now in the premier division and competing against money bags teams they want champion leagues football with in 5 years and have a strategy to try and achieve this. The FA want to win the World Cup and have a strategy in place to try and achieve this. so why don't we sit down and build a strategy to achieve this?, it cost nothing but time.


Put it another way what would you prefer to invest in if you would be a potential investor sponsor or a potential new supporter go to.

club A: Vision: Unknown club B) Club Vision To be in the league 2 within 5 years

Values: Unknown Values: Creativity, Unity, Accountability, Aspiration, Respect


And we are going to achieve this by doing X Y Z. We also have a club DNA running from the under 8's to the first team for in possession /out of possession / transition so that any player breaking through the ranks knows the Welling Way no matter who the manager of the future is and what tactic's they play.


I would go for club B any day.


We start by everyone connected with the club from Paul, match day volunteers, community scheme and academy staff, the management team, players rep, WUSA reps, board members sitting down with a blank piece of paper and come up with vision and a set of values for the club and and then have a debate on how we can achieve this, and write a strategy paper on how to achieve our vision and deliver it.


We also have a separate meeting with the management team and community and academy staff and agree a DNA for the teams and introduce it into the team ethos.



-- Edited by morph on Tuesday 8th of December 2015 06:14:37 PM