We'd have to pay severance pay to the current management team and compensation to any club who's manager we may happen to nab. To be honest looking at the club's budget and the negative comments on this forum, who on earth would want to touch this club with a barge pole other than a Jody Brown mark2?
Then after all that the new manager would be lumbered with the current squad we have, who they'll probably have no knowledge of. Then we'll have little left in the budget, if anything at all, to spend on strengthening the squad in January.
People need to get in the real world and remember we're not playing Football Manager 2015.
When we got promoted a few seasons ago we would have given anything to just be out the drop zone at any point of the season as relegation seemed guaranteed at the time.
We've almost certainly got the lowest budget in the league, along with probably the youngest and lowest paid squad as a consequence. Nobody else is going to come in and perform miracles like the one the current management team performed at the end of last year.
Fans were calling for the management team to be sacked with one messaging me that Jamie Day was coming back (not gonna happen!) prior to the Gateshead game. We then went on a run of four consecutive wins!
We know from that that the current squad have the ability to get on another run. All they need is to train hard and recover that confidence and belief. Sadly they're not going to do that with is slagging them off.
There are plenty of people out there within our budget, and wanting the job, based on last time which was less than a year ago, and the budget is now higher.
Yep, severance indeed, do it.
I'd rather a new manager is "lumbered" with the existing squad than the current "management team" are entrusted with adding to it. I have lost all faith in them. Lumbered is a good word, if the new manager is lumbered with the current squad you admit they are not up to it, and the current management team are responsible for that.
Performances this season, even in victory, have been appalling, without exception. I cannot think of one game we have dominated, created chances, or scored goals.
The four consecutive wins were a long time ago in terms of matches played, and three of those four victories were fortunate. Daisy worked wonders, including a promotion, on a lower budget.
"We know" the current squad have the ability. Do they? If so why aren't they doing it then? poor management and selection/tactics. If they aren't up to it, then why did the management sign them. Either way, the management are accountable somewhere along the line.
We'd have to pay severance pay to the current management team and compensation to any club who's manager we may happen to nab. To be honest looking at the club's budget and the negative comments on this forum, who on earth would want to touch this club with a barge pole other than a Jody Brown mark2?
Then after all that the new manager would be lumbered with the current squad we have, who they'll probably have no knowledge of. Then we'll have little left in the budget, if anything at all, to spend on strengthening the squad in January.
People need to get in the real world and remember we're not playing Football Manager 2015.
When we got promoted a few seasons ago we would have given anything to just be out the drop zone at any point of the season as relegation seemed guaranteed at the time.
We've almost certainly got the lowest budget in the league, along with probably the youngest and lowest paid squad as a consequence. Nobody else is going to come in and perform miracles like the one the current management team performed at the end of last year.
Fans were calling for the management team to be sacked with one messaging me that Jamie Day was coming back (not gonna happen!) prior to the Gateshead game. We then went on a run of four consecutive wins! We know from that that the current squad have the ability to get on another run. All they need is to train hard and recover that confidence and belief. Sadly they're not going to do that with is slagging them off.
Us staying up last season had much to do with Alfreton's collapse.
The management team galvanised the squad and we appreciate their success in keeping us up but 12 points from 11 games is some way short of being a miracle!
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How on earth does WTID know what is due in terms of severance pay etc. Totally blind statements. We could bring in a Jody Briwn or we could bring in another Jamie Day who is untried at this level but could prove to be a good manager. All i know is that at the moment, we are going down and very quickly
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Any club sacking a manager for performance reasons when he has them punching above their weight is asking for trouble.
Since the internet, half the football clubs in existence with a forum also had threads demanding a manager's sacking.
When a club is doing better than they're expected to, there's always the arguments that 'Leicester are overachieving to a greater extent so we still need a change.'
Leicester fans are as a good an example as any as to how those making decisions can do well not to listen to everything fans demand on a message board on the internet. Leicester fans were demanding Pearson needed to be sacked the summer before he won promotion for them with 100+ points, then again before he kept them in the PL after being bottom at Xmas, then were angry when he was sacked and angry all over again when Ranieri was appointed.
Staying up having 'as much to do with Alfreton's collapse' is clearly unfair. Southport were dragged back into it and were still not technically safe going into the final day either. The victory over in form Wrexham who had just gone to Blundell Park and ended Grimsby's automatic promotion hopes had nothing to do Alfreton.
Yes, Welling had to beat two clubs from leagues below them to reach the FA Cup second round. That privilege was earned through very good management at the end of last season that helped the club stay up. Without it they'd have been a step two club needing to win four ties to get there.
Is it really fair to say in this form Welling are getting relegated when there are five clubs beneath them in the table. Realistically, how many clubs should a decent manager be expected to have Welling above in the National League table? If the club is panicking and sacking for being nineteenth in the National League, they are going to go through a lot of managers. Nineteenth at the end of the season would seem like a good finish to me? I'd be interested to see a poll on league position expectations.
On the question of form, Lincoln went into the game last week off the back of 10 points from four games. It was less than a month ago Welling were five minutes away from beating Forest Green. Welling's very good goal being scored by a forward this management team signed.
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-- Edited by oohahhfranzcarr on Monday 7th of December 2015 05:49:46 AM
So we got a hammering yesterday, the form book showed we would loose and the refs decisions did not help. So we are in the bottom quarter of the league, but we are above clubs with a bigger budget, more experienced and larger squads, and we are not actually in the relegation zone. At the start of the season the number one aim was, and is, to avoid relegation - so far so good. In my opinion Faz and Co have made a few strange decisions, but are working hard to learn their trade. We should be supporting and encouraging them when things go wrong. Yes we should express our opinions and complain when things go wrong - like putting KSA up front yesterday - but we should try and work with Faz and the team, not against them.
So we got a hammering yesterday, the form book showed we would loose and the refs decisions did not help. So we are in the bottom quarter of the league, but we are above clubs with a bigger budget, more experienced and larger squads, and we are not actually in the relegation zone. At the start of the season the number one aim was, and is, to avoid relegation - so far so good. In my opinion Faz and Co have made a few strange decisions, but are working hard to learn their trade. We should be supporting and encouraging them when things go wrong. Yes we should express our opinions and complain when things go wrong - like putting KSA up front yesterday - but we should try and work with Faz and the team, not against them.
People have been supporting and encouraging the team and turning up week in and week out but we have been here before this season. we should not judge them on yesterdays loss as it would be some upset to beat a league 2 team.The main issue is that some decisions have really been to the detriment of the club and results. Firstly poor selection of new players who have been put on contract, poor team selection, negative play at the expense of winning games we have taken the lead in, we are on a very bad run and people are worried because teams below them are now finding form and have better players who have underperformed so far like Halifax. If we dont bounce back soon then these teams will move ahead of us. Loui must know that introducing his friend wasnt going to get a good result and why Vidal on the bench? I dont think Loui is the long-term solution and we need to recognise that. He is a young manager but needed an old head around him to guide him not 2 equally inexperienced coaches.
My view is not based on a knee jerk reaction to yesterday. It is a considered response based on their overall performance in the job and their previous experience in management prior to coming to PVR (none).
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