Macclesfield had their game called off at half-time whilst 2-0 down at home to Ashton.

moses mcneil wrote:

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What happened?, 3 goals conceded to a team in Ryman division 1 north is not very encouraging. Am not optimistic for the tough set of fixtures ahead, we'll be lucky to pick up any points I think.

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 And this happened after the subs were brought on and the lineup changed to what the know-it-alls said the starting lineup should've been...

Ashby and Frost are the only viable alternatives at this stage of the season.

Mr A Realist wrote:

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To those of you that are positive. How bad must results and performances, management team selections and tactics, be before you request a change?

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 We reached the 2nd round of the FA Cup, we're still in the FA Trophy and are currently still above the relegation zone and full-time clubs with much larger budgets when we should theoretically be nailed to the bottom of the table, as every bookmaker in the land predicted.

Whilst still above the relegation zone I would rather money was spent on strengthening the squad instead of gambling on another potential Jody Brown. Although I'd be surprised if any potential candidate for the job would want to touch the club with a barge pole after seeing the comments on this forum.

Wellingking wrote:

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I am a season ticket holder and turn up to all home games but cant make away games due to having a young family. I feel I am entitled to voice my opinion when the management are getting it so clearly wrong. Nevertheless I still watch and hope like all supporters and yes we are all moaning now because all Welling fans are proud of being in the conference and we dont want to loose our place because of inaction on the part of the management team. we all like Faz but how much can we take and how long can it be allowed to continue. I wouldnt call anyone on here a troll who is discussing a serious run of bad results for the team and club, I would instead be grateful for their honesty because we could all pretend that there isnt a problem and then wait for the last game of the season to be saved by goal difference but that wont happen every year!
Every game I watch I am optimistic of us winning because I am a fan but its clear that there is a problem. I respect all that have a different opinion and thats fine but we really need to stop implying that others are trolls because some people dont agreee with their views. Everyone here cares about the club and thats why we bother discussing it

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 Agreed

WingsTillIDie wrote:

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 Well I'm baffled.

The only thing the management seemed to do wrong was change the lineup to what many said the starting lineup should have been, and we then concede three goals.

Damned if they do, and damned if they don't.

Everyone's entitled to their opinion but many need to stop exaggerating the situation and get a perspective of the clubs position from the outside looking in.

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They brought on Fagan, who if I'm not much mistaken started against Carlisle...? So your point is b***ocks

Mr A Realist wrote:

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Because that game was abandoned. And Kidderminster's results shouldn't influence our management choice.

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FYI  That game wasn't abandoned. The result was 2-1 at FT.

I do feel that that result should be used as an example to gain a better perspective of today's win which some people are trying to make out as a loss.

Many people seem to think the grass is greener on the other side. Only the board knows what funds the club has available to obtain a new management team and maybe who is available for the job. Bringing in another Jody Brown with little or no knowledge of the club or players would be catastrophic when we're still three points above the relegation zone with a significantly higher goal difference than the bottom four teams.

Yet again, my opinion is that I believe that the limited funds the club has should be spent on strengthening the squad. I believe the current squad have the ability to push the club back up the table but need to regain the confidence with led to the win and last turnaround at Gateshead.

The team aren't going to regain that confidence with people needlessly slagging them off just to get the management team sacked in the hope that their fantasy of Jamie Day somehow returning would be fulfilled...

The board know what the clubs' financial position is and will ultimately decide whether a gamble on new management is the best choice, not the supporters.

Let's leave it at that, agree to disagree with each other, and regardless of what may or may not happen off the pitch over the next week, turn out in force and cheer the lads onto a much needed three points on Saturday.

Mr A Realist wrote:

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To those of you that are positive. How bad must results and performances, management team selections and tactics, be before you request a change?

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How encouraging a performance is, or isn't, is a largely subjective thing. And generally, a football manager's job doesn't hinge on how their teams are scored on artistic merit by anybody anyway.  Bad results get managers the sack. 

I'd be considered a positive fan, and I don't believe results can be bad when when the club is above the relegation zone they were at the start of the season expected to be in.  Making the last 84 in the FA Cup has to be judged as above average for any team in the National League. A win in the FA Trophy isn't going to tip anybody with faith in the current management over the edge.  That is only looking at this season in isolation.

It is sad to see the criticism the management have received in recent weeks on this forum and on the terraces.  It is a good club, with good people working for it, and good fans.  I had a season ticket for years at another club and haven't been at all this season partly because they sack a new manager every five minutes. Last year they had popular manager who knows they club very well, has a lot of affection for it, and represented it with great integrity.  He got five minutes too. Some five were willing to give him even less.  It is another modern day soulless football club at the moment.  

In the last three years supporting Welling has cheered me up no end.  It is much better.  Jody Brown didn't win a game and picked a fight with the fans sealing his own fate. The only Welling game I've left thinking 'well, this is ****e' was the home defeat to Alfreton last season when the club had appeared to have abandoned its policy of blooding young players in favour of fielding journey man footballers.  Rowan Vine and Darren Purse argued over who would take a penalty at 3-0 down to second bottom with three minutes left, Vine winning and Purse not even watching the kick as he sulked on his way back to the half way line. It was hard to disagree with that sacking even though it came so soon.  But I still hoped for Welling's sake that was a one off. 

When a successful season is survival, there are going to be bad games, bad results, freezing miserable shot-less home defeats to Southport when in the previous home game virtually the same team had knocked Forest Green off the top of the table and had been only five minutes from beating them. Two seasons ago there was the 1-0 home win against Grimsby and a 2-0 home defeat to Hyde United.  Everybody dreamed of an upset last week, and instead we saw professional team dish out a wupping in the end. The team selection was curious, it backfired, and mistakes were punished. Still the club earned the praise it received in the national media, and from the Carlisle fans nevertheless. It wasn't all doom and gloom. For the management team's part, they started earning the right to pick whichever team they thought best in that game when they kept Welling up last season, ensuring they entered the competition in the Fourth Qualifying Round this season, and then navigated their way successfully through the the Second Round this season.  They probably started earning the right to pick the side they thought best when three key players were caught in traffic and turned up just before kick off for a pretty much must-win home game against a Wrexham side, who had won their previous three.  They made a brave call that would have left them open to criticism had they lost. Instead they had a brilliant first forty five minutes and clung on to a win that lifted them out of the drop zone. 

To those who aren't positive, how good must results be (what does the league position need to be, which round of each cup competition should the club be making) before you'd be happy with the current management team?

Each week I look for the positives, so today was a win, POSITIVE x 4 (goals). I wasn't at the game but have read Matt Panting's report - now I understand Matt has/had connections with Welling? Let's just say he is more Wings than Tilbury although I would expect him to be unbiased? But his report scores overall damning of Welling and I quote;

" The game was lacking in quality (NEGATIVE) until Porter delivered a moment of class on 32 minutes." "Welling stepped up the pace before the break and a fortunate (NEGATIVE) third arrived just before half-time. Somehow the offside flag stayed down...", "The hosts had felt hard done by following a series of decision by referee Carl Brook but on this occasion they had just cause." (NEGATIVE) "Welling defended well...."(POSITIVE), "Tilbury's industry was rewarded..." (NEGATIVE x3 goals), "The visitors then had an effort cleared off the line...(POSITIVE), "And there was still time for Tilbury to go close again...." (NEGATIVE).

So from Matt's report I scored the game 6 positives and 7 negatives, and this against a team 3 leagues and so many table places (I can't be ar**ed to work it out) below us.

Just how are we expected to remain positive when up against our league opponents? IMO today's win was luck of the draw and just papering over the huge cracks? I fear for next week.