Almost a Damascene conversion, Chris.  I agree with you though, time for me and others to banish all negative comments during the match and to fully encourage our team. If it does not work, we can have a damn good moan afterwards.

Losing 1 0 at half time

Thanks Dave

Sidcup Graham wrote:

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Aside from in front of goal, I thought it was a well battled performance against a decent big fast side

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 Thank you. I was starting to wonder if I was the only one watching the whole game instead of just moaning and looking for the negatives.

-- Edited by WingsTillIDie on Saturday 19th of December 2015 06:30:13 PM

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One of our best home performances of the season. But what we lacked today but had in our previous 4 home wins was luck. Of course we lacked a decent striker, or any kind of threat at set pieces, but then we have lacked that all season. 

A change at the top is required as the current trio seem unable or unwilling to address this.

-- Edited by Chris on Saturday 19th of December 2015 06:56:21 PM

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 I fully respect your view Chris but in the same post you've said it was "one of our best performances of the season" but want the management sacked as well. 

The strikers we have were signed because they were the best we could obtain at the time of signing them. KSA and Kabba have all shown glimpses of what they can achieve. The only people that can bring them back to their best, are KSA and Kabba themselves. A new manager will not get more out of them. We signed Tash to give more depth to the squad, and was the best option we have at the time. I believe he could perform at this level but sadly his performances have been somewhat lackadaisical to put it mildly. People claiming we turned down Tyrone Marsh need to remind themselves why he left (££££££).

As I've said before, the board have the real overview of the clubs finances and it's down to them to decide whether money would be better spent on a new striker or whether a gamble should be taken on a new manager. We might not have money for either.

Whatever will be, will be. In the meantime we need to support the lads who gave their all today. We have to remind ourselves that most of them are u21 (correct me if I'm wrong) and most have never played at this level before. Many of them have the potential to be the next Jamie Vardy or Charlie Austin but they need us to support them and give them that belief.

I believe we can get three points from Dover. The team just need to keep doing the things we did right today, hit the training ground hard to iron out the little mistakes, and to go into the Dover game with the same positivity and belief that got the team three points against bigger teams like Gateshead, Kidderminster and Lincoln, as well as valuable points against Forest Green, Tranmere and Eastleight.

COYW!

 

The strikers we have were signed because they were the best we could obtain at the time of signing them.

 

......I'm not convinced of that. 

And Tyrone didn't leave for money. He was on loan to us and was then signed by Ebbsfleet. Wrong again. Regardless, if you were working somewhere and a similar company offered you a lot more money to move to them you would take it. So would I and many others. Why should football be any different

In the summer we made a decision to sign Kabba who had to make a step up as opposed to Tyrone who scored goals at this level.

KSA did play well at the back end of the season, but i think having Roscoe and Dom Vose helped that.

The things that you post that are not correcr are undermining your argument. You wanted Jody Brown to stay and that would have relegated us. I believe that sticking with Loui also means we will get relegated. How long do you keep plugging away at things?

 

All this talk about what we can afford is also wrong. In our first season we had Beautyman, Franks, Berqvist, Dyer, Guthrie, Roscoe. Any of them in my opinion would walk into this team. The budget has not changed since then, so we were able to bring those types of players in then, why can't we do it now?

-- Edited by Polo on Saturday 19th of December 2015 08:25:00 PM

The strikers were signed right at the start of the summer. Who knows what better options might have come along later had we waited?

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The budget has changed since then Polo. It's gone up!

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 Has it? How would you know?

WingsTillIDie wrote:

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Mr A Realist wrote:

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The budget has changed since then Polo. It's gone up!

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 Has it? How would you know?

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 Because I heard it from two directors in person earlier this season, Sept/Oct time. The budget is the highest it has ever been. 

Obviously happy with the situation.....very odd!

I won't.

6 points from a possible 30 ...last 10 games.....one win!

That makes you want to cry!

if they are not gone after Dover I would really be shocked. I cant see us beating Dover the most would be a score draw but who will score for us? Vidal is always on the bench and any dangerous player we have like Bakare is now a sub and the management seem to want to pick a player who is unfit and not sharp enough for this level of football. Performances by some of the bright lights like Porter and Harris are beginning to tail off because there is no end product from their efforts. Where is our captain in all of this? he should be taking a lead on the field but very few times does that happen and yesterday it was a poor performance-yes lots of effort but all we do is kick the ball up in the air and hope. why cant they put the ball on the ground and play with it. When we do this we negate the size and power threat that the bigger teams always pose. Southport beat Bromley 5-3 yesterday only because they can score goals-how long will this go on with the ''happy with my squad'' mentality of the 3 amigos. I dont understand anyone who wants to stick with this, perhaps they are expecting lots of wins in the South but I have got news for you, we go down there and we arent getting out of it for many years. and there are better teams in there than us on our present form. Wake up those of you who are happy with the mess! yes Welling have a difficult decision to make because Loui is a good man and we all like him-but we must not forget we support Welling and not one man(3) and at present it is not working

I thought Willard did well yesterday and could hear him instructing players and telling porter off for being offside when he really shouldn't have been, much better in the middle. Think they play KSA as they think we need a big man to win headers etc but neither him or rash can do that job, I think we should be playing on the floor and just play a front 3 of Kabba, Harris and porter. At least they'd be faster then most defenders and create chances.

Bakare - has shown he can contribute something in the League with our current players around him

Vidal - has shown he can contribute something in the League with our current players around him if played in a suitable position.

Kabba - has shown he can contribute something in the League with our current players around him if only for 60 minutes.

Wellard - has shown he can contribute something in the League with our current players around him if he is played in the correct position (and this might conflict with Vidal)

Fagan - has shown on occasion he has a contribution to make, if selected, although this may now be diminished due to the weight of splinters in his backside!

KSA - I'm still waiting for evidence, with these players around him, could be a while.

Tash - I'm still waiting for evidence, with these players around him, might be longer.

 

If we had consistently picked the players that had demonstrated a contribution and found a system that allowed them to make that contribution then I would agree you are gambling purely on a different manager making a motivational difference. We may have no money, we may have some but I can't tell you if we need to spend it or not because I don't know if what we already have if selected and played in a formation to suit would be good enough. Does anyone feel we are doing this?

WTID, if you employed a builder to do some plumbing and they consistently sent an electrician to do the job you'd not be happy, you'd probably def them off and get a different company to do the job. We well know as its football our business is not going to go to the next one down the road so you are then left with trying to force the bloody company to send the metaphorical plumber. And that might mean getting the staff manager changed.

If you are an experienced manager and can't make it work you'd expect the boot. If you are inexperienced you have to rapidly pick up and demonstrate the ability to learn and adapt if you aren't successful and that is not currently being outwardly demonstrated in either results or selection.

In a League where we have to get everything right pretty much to stay in it, if we played our best contributors and that isn't good enough, I don't go down happy but I feel we did what we could. I can live with that in the League below. I had 14 years or feeling we didn't give it our best shot last time round and that wasn't fun. I don't really want that again but at the moment that scenario is firmly on the cards, which is doubly bloody annoying given some of the crap and financially hamstrung teams in this division.

If the current management team are trying to prove a point they had better get it to work pretty damn quickly against someone at our level and pile up some credible evidence otherwise the only point they are proving is they are not adaptable, skilful or fast enough learners for the current task.

 

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Bakare - has shown he can contribute something in the League with our current players around him

Vidal - has shown he can contribute something in the League with our current players around him if played in a suitable position.

Kabba - has shown he can contribute something in the League with our current players around him if only for 60 minutes.

Wellard - has shown he can contribute something in the League with our current players around him if he is played in the correct position (and this might conflict with Vidal)

Fagan - has shown on occasion he has a contribution to make, if selected, although this may now be diminished due to the weight of splinters in his backside!

KSA - I'm still waiting for evidence, with these players around him, could be a while.

Tash - I'm still waiting for evidence, with these players around him, might be longer.

 

If we had consistently picked the players that had demonstrated a contribution and found a system that allowed them to make that contribution then I would agree you are gambling purely on a different manager making a motivational difference. We may have no money, we may have some but I can't tell you if we need to spend it or not because I don't know if what we already have if selected and played in a formation to suit would be good enough. Does anyone feel we are doing this?

WTID, if you employed a builder to do some plumbing and they consistently sent an electrician to do the job you'd not be happy, you'd probably def them off and get a different company to do the job. We well know as its football our business is not going to go to the next one down the road so you are then left with trying to force the bloody company to send the metaphorical plumber. And that might mean getting the staff manager changed.

If you are an experienced manager and can't make it work you'd expect the boot. If you are inexperienced you have to rapidly pick up and demonstrate the ability to learn and adapt if you aren't successful and that is not currently being outwardly demonstrated in either results or selection.

In a League where we have to get everything right pretty much to stay in it, if we played our best contributors and that isn't good enough, I don't go down happy but I feel we did what we could. I can live with that in the League below. I had 14 years or feeling we didn't give it our best shot last time round and that wasn't fun. I don't really want that again but at the moment that scenario is firmly on the cards, which is doubly bloody annoying given some of the crap and financially hamstrung teams in this division.

If the current management team are trying to prove a point they had better get it to work pretty damn quickly against someone at our level and pile up some credible evidence otherwise the only point they are proving is they are not adaptable, skilful or fast enough learners for the current task.

 

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Yes but they will have ALL 3 games over Christmas....aint gonna change anything in 3 days

Sadly I predict nil points. Depressing to watch and depressing to read about. Enjoy Christmas everyone as the football is going to be dull.