Polo wrote:

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I do. I've only missed 3 games in 5 years home and away. Can you say the same? Forget money, what would your reasons for keeping Faz be?

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 The answers in your question. We MAY not have the money to bring in a replacement. Neither you or I know what the clubs exact financial situation is but would you like me to remind you what nearly happened the last time we overspent.

The board will have heard the opinions on the terraces and the forum regarding the current situation. It's up to the. To weigh up the pros and cons and whether to change management, and ultimately it's the board who risk the most financially (Which lets be honest is what matters most to them).

In the meantime the perpetual negativity is not going to do the club many favours. Can you honestly say the forum at present is a good advert to any floating supporters.

Ashford Wing wrote:

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I notice you've abandoned your "we're not even in the relegation zone" point of a few weeks ago?

If that was justification for keeping them in charge a few weeks ago, I assume it is now justification for their swift removal?

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 It was that and that nobody other than the board know the state of the club's finances.

As I've said in another post, the silence of the board is deafening.

WingsTillIDie wrote:

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Mr A Realist wrote:

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WingsTilIDie. If you could educate me on anything you have seen, heard or read from the board, WUSA, a large collection of season ticket holders of more than a decade, and my own opinion, please do.

I see one person and one person only being positive at the moment. Why might that be?

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 For the 1000th time, nobody other than the board knows the state of the clubs finances.

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 I am currently sitting next to a member of the board who I have known for 20 years. That kills that one. 

After seeing that we are definitely better off with a manager from the crowd. The club have got to take responsibility for this the longer it goes on the more it is damaging Welling. we played Dover in the cup at PVR last season even though we lost it was a competitive game but a year on we looked like the standard of a Ryman team. How can we call it progress if we are in a worse situation than last year. 6 wins in the league says it all and lets face it what new supporters are going swell the crowd when we are playing in a lower division. Teams below us have started to win and we wont just be 4th from bottom. Are we going to beat Braintree away and Dover? it doesnt look likely as in both home fixtures against these 2 we were less than competitive. 

Mr A Realist wrote:

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Pathetic .... youtu.be/A1okCrIQiNs

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 So who has to learn very quickly ?....As we have been told week after week " The boys have been training hard all week & we have given them all the information they need ......" 

You can keep  trying and trying and never give up....But if your not good enough. Then that's down to THE MANAGEMENT 

Yesterday was a lot of people felt our best starting 11. However set pieces and corners woeful . Free kicks again woeful. The only big men in the team never attack the ball on the rare occasions the ball gets in the box. one one on the keeper .  George Porter heads the ball across the empty goal for our striker to tap in ........Oh his not there .....

We start to Attack with 4mins to go WTFP......

So i / expect the MANAGEMENT in their interview to sound ..look so what upest ...angry.... Well i would be.

So they blame the players ..Well you sign them ...

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First of all credit to Dover on Saturday - they were well organised, adaptable and had numerous goal threats around their team (the polar opposite to us you might say) Now I don't expect we can compete with them financially but they are still pretty much a part time club and it shows what can be achieved if you have good management allied to good players. I want to see more entertaining football but I would settle for seeing some winning football in the short term and some entertainment after that. As others have said the product on show at the moment is dire and it is turning off regular supporters but a couple of wins would soon get them back. It is a crying shame that we made such a poor showing against Carlisle when we  had a lot of old faces and some floating supporters return for the day. To be honest we don't have one consistent goal threat in our team and that is not a new problem but one that became apparent around September time. Anyone else notice that Marsh, Pugh, Guthrie and Ademola/Emmanuel all found the net at the weekend........

The four wins in a row were achieved with two good strikes against Gateshead, an entertaining if fortunate win against Chester (who hit the woodwork three times as I recall) and two wins against the two worst teams in the division in Halifax and Kiddy who couldn't buy a point at the time. That was almost three months ago. Since then it has been cup results that have kept us going and let's face it the standard of opposition was the main reason we managed (eventually) to win those games.

The substitution fiasco with Lokko/Fagan summed up the complete laughing stock we have become. We played for around three minutes with 10 men and Dover could have scored twice in that period. If the player is injured (and it worries me that the physio gave him the thumbs up to continue...) then he stays on the field of play until the sub is ready to enter the field of play. This is not the first time we have seen this at PVR this season and surely one of our "management team" has the nous to work this out...?!

I am not convinced that we will stay up but a change at the helm (and hopefully with two or three new players) might give us a fighting chance. No change at the helm and I fear we have no chance at all of survival.

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 Yes I agree credit has to be given to Dover for taken advantage of our mistakes and lack of aggression when in possession. I think MCEntegart looked good and certainly he has shown in the last few games that he is a good goal keeper but we need 2 of them and hopefully in Jan  we can get another. I think Dover and and Grimsby cut through us again and its a real concern that we play them without Harry Lee in the team. Its desperate now and we have had little christmas cheer particularly when the club is so silent on the manager issue! I was pleased that Bromley beat Dover not just because that may affect their confidence before our game with them but because they were particularly annoying at PVR and having sat next them and listened and watched their behaviour I was quite pleased to say the least. Lets hope for a happier new year for our team in January whoever is in charge and also that some of our better players arent cherry picked like they have been in the past-particularly when other clubs buy them for peanuts

Mr A Realist wrote:

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Wellingking wrote:

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Wingnut wrote:

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First of all credit to Dover on Saturday - they were well organised, adaptable and had numerous goal threats around their team (the polar opposite to us you might say) Now I don't expect we can compete with them financially but they are still pretty much a part time club and it shows what can be achieved if you have good management allied to good players. I want to see more entertaining football but I would settle for seeing some winning football in the short term and some entertainment after that. As others have said the product on show at the moment is dire and it is turning off regular supporters but a couple of wins would soon get them back. It is a crying shame that we made such a poor showing against Carlisle when we  had a lot of old faces and some floating supporters return for the day. To be honest we don't have one consistent goal threat in our team and that is not a new problem but one that became apparent around September time. Anyone else notice that Marsh, Pugh, Guthrie and Ademola/Emmanuel all found the net at the weekend........

The four wins in a row were achieved with two good strikes against Gateshead, an entertaining if fortunate win against Chester (who hit the woodwork three times as I recall) and two wins against the two worst teams in the division in Halifax and Kiddy who couldn't buy a point at the time. That was almost three months ago. Since then it has been cup results that have kept us going and let's face it the standard of opposition was the main reason we managed (eventually) to win those games.

The substitution fiasco with Lokko/Fagan summed up the complete laughing stock we have become. We played for around three minutes with 10 men and Dover could have scored twice in that period. If the player is injured (and it worries me that the physio gave him the thumbs up to continue...) then he stays on the field of play until the sub is ready to enter the field of play. This is not the first time we have seen this at PVR this season and surely one of our "management team" has the nous to work this out...?!

I am not convinced that we will stay up but a change at the helm (and hopefully with two or three new players) might give us a fighting chance. No change at the helm and I fear we have no chance at all of survival.

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 Yes I agree credit has to be given to Dover for taken advantage of our mistakes and lack of aggression when in possession. I think MCEntegart looked good and certainly he has shown in the last few games that he is a good goal keeper but we need 2 of them and hopefully in Jan  we can get another. I think Dover and and Grimsby cut through us again and its a real concern that we play them without Harry Lee in the team. Its desperate now and we have had little christmas cheer particularly when the club is so silent on the manager issue! I was pleased that Bromley beat Dover not just because that may affect their confidence before our game with them but because they were particularly annoying at PVR and having sat next them and listened and watched their behaviour I was quite pleased to say the least. Lets hope for a happier new year for our team in January whoever is in charge and also that some of our better players arent cherry picked like they have been in the past-particularly when other clubs buy them for peanuts

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Although McEntegart was excellent against Dover, if you had seen his "performance" away to Aldershot I don't think you'd be so complimentary. He must have put 75% of his kicks, dead ball situations and those based back to him from defenders, out of play for throw-ins. A basic requirement of a footballer is that you can kick a ball with your foot. He's fair to inconsistent for my liking, hence him not starting every match this season. 

Besides, the argument is somewhat irrelevant, as soon as his brother is sacked I hardly think he'll be hanging around, do you. I would imagine that might be a large part of why the management team were not relieved of their duties after Dover at home, thinking we'd have had another game less than 48 hours later with just one keeper to choose from.

-- Edited by Mr A Realist on Wednesday 30th of December 2015 01:50:51 PM

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 That would have been a fair excuse for not sacking them on Sunday, there is no excuse for not sacking them since Monday. This is a total shambles. Every day that goes past is a day wasted for a potential new manager to assess the current squad and seek new recruit.