Yesterday I watched the Mighty Wings get relegated from the top tier of Non league football for the second time. The big difference was that the first time we went down with a fight, yesterday we went down with a whimper.
This season has been a struggle from start to finish, bad decisions made by a "Management Team" along with unbelievable stubbornness in refusing to admit they were wrong and try something different. However in my opinion what has led to our demise is the attitude of many to play as individuals rather than as a team. I don't ask for much I fully understand that a small club like Welling was always going to be the underdog, but when along with a dedicated bunch of supporters I put in the time and effort to follow the team, It would be nice to see the people who take my hard earned cash as a salary give something back in return. So to all those(You know who you are) who have pulled on the shirt with pride, given your all on the pitch and showed fight and passion, I thank you and sincerely hope you are back with us next year. To the rest(you also know who you are) who consider the pound note to be more important than pride and ambition, please stick your attitude where the sun don't shine, and ply your trade elsewhere. Enjoy spending the rest of your careers in the county leagues, as that is quite clearly where you are bound. This Club is, was and always will be bigger than you, and we are far better off without you.
I'm sure that next season will be a better one and that Welling United will bounce back as they have in the past. COYW
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Completely agree, some players we ev seen this season could not give a ****, obviously a few exceptions. Can raise it against the tramere then complete tosh against kiddy. Much worse then not having ability!
Not all doom and gloom potentially 4 Kent derbies,trips to Brighton Portsmouth Bournemouth,plenty of new teams to play yes I know we have to visit canvey,Weston but if we stayed up we would have boringwood,Braintree and Dagenham ....keep the faith
I also agree with Odin. With a quite a few new teams in conf south compared to last time and also more local derbies, we'll probably have more visitors compared to this season.
If we can have a good start and get up the conf south table I'm sure alot of the floating supporters will come back. We managed to get four figure crowds towards the end of our last stay in the conf south so it can be done. Also with the ongoing saga at Charlton we could pull of their supporters into our gravitational pull as well.
I also recall going down before and seasons where we've struggled and only stayed up by other teams going bust. But I can NEVER recall a season where there has been such little fight or determination by the team. Some notable exceptions but generally the attitude seems to have been more akin to KSA than Mike Rutherford - do you remember him, it was said he'd run through a brick wall for the team.
So now we need to get past the last couple of matches, bid a fond farewell to those acquaintances we see on the terraces, get all those jobs done at home to stop our partners nagging, and look forward positively to a new season, a new look team and some new opposition.
Imagine if we got the full suite of 4 Kent games! Hopefully we'll think about cashing in unlike the Carlisle debacle. Also not forgetting the best fixture for me, Eastbourne v Wings!
For some reason my email to the club is not sending, so maybe they'll read it on here instead.
Dear Welling United - my beloved local side,
I am sure, like most people at the club, that whoever watches over this email address is a volunteer, correct? Would you please forward this email to Mr. Hobbins, as I really do wonder if he deems himself fit and proper to run Welling United Football Club?
I have been a season ticket holder at Welling for this season and have been attending Park View Road over the last 5+ years, (constantly volunteering to help the club in any aspect however receiving no response from you in three occasions) and with a heavy heart I shant be renewing, as I refuse to put my hard earned money into your pocket Mr. Hobbins for you to pay off players and managers contracts on a regular basis.
Appointing Loui Fazakerley as manager alongside his companions was an absolutely shocking decision right from the start. This was NOT a league for thoughtless experimentation. There were surely actual proven managers willing to come into the club to try their luck in the National League? This decision, ultimately, lost the club a legend, a solid right-back, two coaches and a physio. As well as the whole contract situation, and the failure to replace Lafayette in two full seasons? It isn't great is it Mr. Hobbins?
Second of all, the social media side of things is, to put it kindly, an embarrasment. The tweet sent out yesterday afternoon was almost a celebration that the club was suffering a relegation. Disrespectful towards the supporters who spend their hours standing on those shoddy dangerous Park View Road steps, and those who travel to watch the football club that you own. Your volunteer clearly has no social media experience and it is incredible how you seem to accept such unprofessional standards.
I fully respect your time and effort you have put into the club, however, it is clear to see that Welling is a club which is rapidly sprialing downwards without any kind of parachute.
I would be very open to reading a response from yourself Mr. Hobbins - although giving my unsuccessful attempts offering to volunteer on multiple occasions I strongly doubt that you will respond.
Sheedy the fans wanted Loui so Hobbins gave them what they wanted so if your saying he shouldn't have been given the job then the fans are as much to blame as him. Everyone loved him for keeping us up,I didn't see you calling for his head then.....
Am sure everyone was hoping he would be the new Jaime Day but it wasn't to be
Personally I think that Loui deserved a shot at the manager's job. Yes Alfreton fell apart towards the end of the season but we did seem to pick up in performances towards the end of the season.
However, the refusal to rectify the striker problem (Obvious in pre-season that we did not have enough firepower), the shocking team selection in the Carlisle game, and the continuing poor results meant he should have gone in November/December, giving a new manager more time to work on moving players out and getting newer players in.
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If I remember correctly Loui was the only realistic candidate when he took over.
Given the length of time that the Hobbins have been running the club it's unbelievable that they gave him so much freedom, a little more guidance on player contracts and the mix of the team could have helped.
The decision to change managers obviously came too late to turn things around, although there are encouraging signs, but I think the way the fixtures were set up over Christmas, the abandoned Dover game etc all conspired to delay taking the decision to sack Faz
but onwards & upwards - playoff next season - and good runs in the cup competitions.
Sheedy the fans wanted Loui so Hobbins gave them what they wanted so if your saying he shouldn't have been given the job then the fans are as much to blame as him. Everyone loved him for keeping us up,I didn't see you calling for his head then..... Am sure everyone was hoping he would be the new Jaime Day but it wasn't to be
Did they...?? News to me and the people I watch with on a Saturday...?!
Loui was a popular player but that doesn't make him a good choice as manager. As I have said countless times we stayed up because three teams were already down and Alfreton proved to be worse than us during the run in. We got 12 points from 11 games at the end of last season - hardly earth shattering form.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing but it was a mistake giving them the job and an even bigger mistake sitting back and letting them spunk the budget on players who were not up to this level in a million years.
We've took risks on unproven managers in Loui and Jody and ended up paying them off.
Simple, nobody gets a contract to manage us in the future. They get a 3 month probation and if they pass then they get a contract. Anyone who wants the job will take it. We will be protected too. The three amigos would have jumped at that deal and we would have had money to bring in players after they left us snookered.
If we are not going to advertise the managers job and keep taking gambles we have to protect ourselves.
Turn to page 17 on the threads when Loui got appointed didnt see anyone then saying it was a bad move .......including your response :)
I stand/sit corrected apparently
I can see why he got the job as he/they (allegedly) kept us up but it was still the wrong call as was leaving him to hand out so many contracts like sweets without any supervision.
Turn to page 17 on the threads when Loui got appointed didnt see anyone then saying it was a bad move .......including your response :)
Wrong! I did say it was a bad move when he got appointed.
And to save you having a trawl it was a bad move because we appointed him before the Southport game not after. Never understood why we did it then as we were on a wave of euphoria after Alfreton and not in the cold light of day at the end of the season. The outcome may still have been the same.
Turn to page 17 on the threads when Loui got appointed didnt see anyone then saying it was a bad move .......including your response :)
I stand/sit corrected apparently
I can see why he got the job as he/they (allegedly) kept us up but it was still the wrong call as was leaving him to hand out so many contracts like sweets without any supervision.
Especially when one of the first was to KSA. It wasn't like he'd never seen him close up. It was not a ringing endorsement of judgment of a player. However, what is an 'acceptable' level of interference from above? I suspect there was none given the influx during the Brown era, probably an equal number of which proved a success.
RE: Loui Fazakerley appointed as manager
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Let me first state that I think the appointment is correct. Personally I would have left it until after Saturday.
I don't think that the boost this week will be significant compared to the motivation the squad will already have after last Saturday. If we stay up that will be a big enough boost in itself. However, should things not go right on Saturday, this could have been a positive news story to lift some of the gloom at no extra cost, which could be extremely useful.
Don't expect anyone to agree but I just think we have done the obvious rather than the canny.
On a separate positive note, I've noticed a considerable number of Charlton fans on forums and social networks seem to be doing a Blackpool and boycotting their club for local non-league sides.
I've managed to convince a couple of Charlton mates who want to boycott, to come to Welling next season. However a lot of Charlton fans seem to be opting for Bromley and Dartford although this could be based on locality.
Either way the traditional pre-season curtain raiser against Charlton should prove interesting this year.
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Let me first state that I think the appointment is correct. Personally I would have left it until after Saturday.
I don't think that the boost this week will be significant compared to the motivation the squad will already have after last Saturday. If we stay up that will be a big enough boost in itself. However, should things not go right on Saturday, this could have been a positive news story to lift some of the gloom at no extra cost, which could be extremely useful.
Don't expect anyone to agree but I just think we have done the obvious rather than the canny.
And this contradicts what I have put above how?
You just said you didn't see anyone saying it was a bad move WHEN he was appointed. You weren't specific about what sort of bad move it was (whether it was the appointment or the timing).
I've only been waiting three months for someone to wander into that one. Wonderful thing the English language when not used precisely
I took over moderating the forum several years ago when no-one else wanted to do it. Seeing as I didn't have to explain why I wanted to moderate it and do it as a volunteer, I don't really need to explain why things are and are not deleted. Big announcements should be made by the club and that's it.
Don't like it and think the forum is dying then fine, don't post anymore! It's entirely up to you.
-- Edited by Polo on Thursday 21st of April 2016 06:33:50 PM
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