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I think he could be - he has had a lot of bad luck in his career. Also, he certainly impressed Jamie. If he carries on with his work-rate and his undoubted technical ability, I don't think it will be long before a League club takes a punt on him.



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According to MG even if JD was on a contract he wouldn't have stood in his way and would have let him go to Gillingham. As for the caretakers can't judge them on yesterday as the team didn't perform and the arguing amongst the players on the pitch whilst the game was going on is not something I want to see. As for the decision to drop Nannetti for arriving 5 minutes late to yesterday's match even though the management were informed that they had been delayed in traffic is laughable, it stinks of I'm the boss and you'll do exactly what I want with no leeway. When players have to make their own way to away matches you're asking for trouble, any problems on the road and your f**ked. Hire a coach and have all the players travel together, this also gives them a chance to bond as a team.

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You want discipline, you get discipline. Then you bemoan because it has been introduced.
I managed to get there on time, so don't see the problem.
As for a coach, you offering to fund it?



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Whilst i do understand the importance of being there in time, Nanetti did call to say he was stuck in traffic.

Had Coombes been slightly late would he have been dropped? I doubt it.

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In fairness to Christian (and Archie, who was in the same car), they probably wouldn't have been late if the car park steward had not insisted on the car not stopping by the entrance and having to travel to be right next to the 5 a side pitch.



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As for the decision to drop Nannetti for arriving 5 minutes late to yesterday's match even though the management were informed that they had been delayed in traffic is laughable, it stinks of I'm the boss and you'll do exactly what I want with no leeway. When players have to make their own way to away matches you're asking for trouble, any problems on the road and your f**ked. Hire a coach and have all the players travel together, this also gives them a chance to bond as a team.


 The more I have thought about it the more it seems a ridiculous decision to drop Nanetti. Why not just fine him say £20 with the money going into a pot for the players end of season drinks? If your going to impose discipline like that then you have to be fair and consistent with every player. To drop Nanetti with Walker ready to step in was an easy decision. Would they do the same with Harry Girling if we did n't have a back up keeper and give the gloves to Danny Waldren? Or one of our center half's when there is currently no direct back up? Or The-prolific-other-clubs-are-chasing-him Adam Coombes. Of course not!

I hope MG reconsiders his plan to keep this caretaker team in charge for the next couple of games and starts looking for a proper manager urgently before the confidence and momentum built up over the past few weeks are lost completely.   



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Mmmmm

They could have left earlier!

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Why was there not a team coach?? Are we that strapped for cash? I also heard that one of the players didn't expect to play so was on the beers the night before, that's commitment for you

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Why was there not a team coach?? Are we that strapped for cash? I also heard that one of the players didn't expect to play so was on the beers the night before, that's commitment for you


 Many of our players live North of London. Do you expect them to drive around the M25 to PVR only to jump on a coach that goes back the same way? 

In his interview Harry Wheeler suggests he was merely imposing the same discipline introduced by Daisy. Maybe so but I can't remember a time in his 5 years in charge that he dropped a player for being 5 minutes late.



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Polo wrote:

Whilst i do understand the importance of being there in time, Nanetti did call to say he was stuck in traffic.

Had Coombes been slightly late would he have been dropped? I doubt it.


Maybe being punctual is just something that rates highly in my opinion.

What time did they need to get there for? Half one?

personally I would have aimed to get there half hour earlier.

as for the Coomes question, I don't think it would have made much difference if he was on the pitch or not yesterday. 

I would however, expect consistency whoever they are.

the thing is that now they know they will be on the bench if they turn up late, we could see half the team arriving at five to three.



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We're in no position to be dropping people for relatively trivial issues like being five minutes late to an away game at a ground they have probably never visited before.

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Polo wrote:

Whilst i do understand the importance of being there in time, Nanetti did call to say he was stuck in traffic.

Had Coombes been slightly late would he have been dropped? I doubt it.


 What about Girling?



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Why was there not a team coach?? Are we that strapped for cash? I also heard that one of the players didn't expect to play so was on the beers the night before, that's commitment for you


 The 16 man squad hasn't changed for weeks so who could expect not to play?



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An interesting conundrum.

 

There needs to be discipline and it needs to be consistent. If you don't have the security of the full time post do you impose it in a manner that could potentially cost you one of the few games you are to be judged on. Personally, they are in charge and it is their decision to make and they will get the consequences good or bad.

 

If we were in a position of relative comfort, this would not matter. However, we do not have the margin for error to get hung on this more than once and if there is not consistency you may as well not bother. We may have lost anyway yesterday but the impression is that we have wilfully squandered our momentum and it is now up to everyone to get their sh*t together and prove which team the real team is at the moment.



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MarkX wrote:

Mmmmm

They could have left earlier!


 

 

Exactly!!!!!!!!!

 

 



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MarkX wrote:

Mmmmm

They could have left earlier!


 Oh i say to You Maidenhead away you didn't even make the match ............



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That's not the point Chris, normally they have a pick up point if there is a coach on so no there is no need to come to PVR if they live north or wherever. The point is HW thinks that JD would have disciplined for being 5 minutes late and I don't think he would of done. What if it had been Coombes like others have said, I don't think he would have been dropped.



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That's not the point Chris, normally they have a pick up point if there is a coach on so no there is no need to come to PVR if they live north or wherever. The point is HW thinks that JD would have disciplined for being 5 minutes late and I don't think he would of done. What if it had been Coombes like others have said, I don't think he would have been dropped.


 I totally agree with you about JD I can't remember him every dropping a player for being late.

As for picking up players on the way I'm sure if we were playing 'oop' north then there would have been a pick up point somewhere on the M1. Hemel is 5 miles north of the M25 so there really is n't any point is there? 



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Jamie day dropped jake Gallagher for being late, might have home midweek game, his dad was driving and they defiantly turned up late.

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Archie's dad said that their SatNav said it would take 65 minutes and it took them 95 minutes. They left with time to spare but you can't predict traffic problem. Totally agree with Polo that if it had been Coombes,Girling,Francis they would not have been dropped. Archie was late too and he wasn't dropped from the subs bench. 



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Now George Oakley has been recalled by AFC Dons. I can't believe its because they want him in their first team squad. More that they don' t want him playing under a couple of amateurs. A new manager is needed asap.



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Wimbledon always said they saw Oakley as a 1st team player, he just need game time and fitness work after his injuries.

Maybe they are loan him out to a Conference Premier side or put him in the 1st team squad?

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Polo wrote:

Wimbledon always said they saw Oakley as a 1st team player, he just need game time and fitness work after his injuries.

Maybe they are loan him out to a Conference Premier side or put him in the 1st team squad?


 They were happy to extend his loan for a further month less than two weeks ago. I can't believe the change of management has nothing to do with it.



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It could be the change of manager prompted a recall, but it could be a combination of factors. George has been playing exceptionally well for us, and scoring goals, in a position he does not like. This, and his desire and attitude, must have brought him to the notice of not only his parent club but also other clubs too. If he is not Cup-tied, AFC may want to use him as a different approach against Sutton. Also, although they are League rivals, Ade and Daisy may want him at Gillingham and be prepared to pay for him.



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OMERTA elb wrote:

It could be the change of manager prompted a recall, but it could be a combination of factors. George has been playing exceptionally well for us, and scoring goals, in a position he does not like. This, and his desire and attitude, must have brought him to the notice of not only his parent club but also other clubs too. If he is not Cup-tied, AFC may want to use him as a different approach against Sutton. Also, although they are League rivals, Ade and Daisy may want him at Gillingham and be prepared to pay for him.



-- Edited by OMERTA elb on Tuesday 10th of January 2017 12:39:09 PM


You seem to have half our team going to Gillingham....if they are that good why are we languishing near the bottom of Conference South...?!

Perhaps they might be interested in our centre halves although, somehow, I doubt it....



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OMERTA elb wrote:

It could be the change of manager prompted a recall, but it could be a combination of factors. George has been playing exceptionally well for us, and scoring goals, in a position he does not like. This, and his desire and attitude, must have brought him to the notice of not only his parent club but also other clubs too. If he is not Cup-tied, AFC may want to use him as a different approach against Sutton. Also, although they are League rivals, Ade and Daisy may want him at Gillingham and be prepared to pay for him.



-- Edited by OMERTA elb on Tuesday 10th of January 2017 12:39:09 PM


You seem to have half our team going to Gillingham....if they are that good why are we languishing near the bottom of Conference South...?!

Perhaps they might be interested in our centre halves although, somehow, I doubt it....


 A sweeping generalisation compared with your, usual, incisive style, Wingnut. George Oakley is not "half OUR team".  It is not particularly perceptive to arrive at a degree of speculation that Adam Coombes could attract attention from the Gills and that Ade and Daisy were impressed by Christian Nanetti's work rate. And why wouldn't Ade be interested in a player that he has seen perform well out of his position - especially as he could attain First Division standard with his current club?



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