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In truth, any respected/experienced manager is unlikely to take the job. Word gets around in football very easily and working with MG is not going to sit high on their to do list after the way things have been.

Someone young/unproven I've never been a fan of, especially when needed to come steady the ship, but its 100% better than what we have and all we could attract at this stage.

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 True but Kinner has been out of work for some time and Welling is a gold oppurtunity for him although I'm sure he will, demand total control of team selection. 

MG is a business man and if there is no change in the manager set up before the Weymouth game then perhaps we should vote with out feet?

I spent £30 on 'entertainment' around Eastbourne yesterday. I think I have left two football matches before the final whistle prior to yesterday and one of those was missing the last 90 seconds of extra time of a Cup replay at Wrexham so I could ensure getting the last train that got me to Scotland. I didn't endure all six added minutes yesterday and thus missed our fig leaf. I did however last out the near one hour delay for two safety fence repairs in the second last race at Arlington later in the evening. Why? Because what had gone before it gave some indication that people performing in what was not their primary occupation seemed to know what they were doing, were putting in the effort and would continue to put on a decent show, based on the earlier evidence.

I can't tell you what left Eastbourne in better shape yesterday, the camper van (see image) or Welling United Football Club (although I suspect it was the camper van!). What I do know is the lads with the camper van would definitely put in the effort to out do us next time.

 

-- Edited by stafford on Sunday 29th of December 2019 11:46:43 AM

In the late 90s and early 00s I went 12 years without missing a home game, as well as visiting almost every away game most seasons, and I'd consider myself a long-term loyal fan even if in recent years I haven't been around very much due to work commitments and my own football clubs growth. I'd like to think I have reasonable place to comment, being both a fan, through good times and bad, and also being on the other side of the fence now running a club myself.

Let's clarify this "supporter" comment on recent threads during December, and in the past when things have been paid, where it seems to me that if you say anything negative you are shot down in flames. Being a supporter means supporting your side through good times and bad yes. Promotion, league wins, relegation, everything. Cheering them on whatever. What being a supporter does not mean is relentlessly saying everything is rosy when it is not. It is wanting the best for your club. It is being willing to support the club always, without exception, but also having the desire and decency to speak out, constructively, when something is not right. If there is a problem, speak about it, make a plan, and for God's sake do something about it, do not bury your head in the sand and think cheering the lads on on its own will save the day. It will not. Glossing over problems or pretending they do not exist is incredibly naive, and just because it is football, and not your work place, or your relationship, or your health, does not change that. All is not well, and something must be done about it. If you were not doing what you said you would, or were supposed to, and failing in performance, at work, you would be dealt with. Same with letting the missus down constantly, you'd be dragged over the coals. Same with ignoring your health, you'd get ill, or die. So being a supporter of Welling for me is wanting the best for it, and we're not getting it and I've had enough, and I don't even go, so f**k knows how some of your regulars must feel.

I wasn't at the game yesterday so I cannot pass comment on that specific "performance", although I can safely assume that not everyone writing above and on Twitter can be wrong, and that it was not good enough. It's an embarrassment to see players (who don't even proper members of our club and are on loan) and stand in management/coaches, arguing in the goalmouth at full-time with supporters. There is a time and place, and neither party are doing themselves any favours there. That said, in the cold light of day, what will come of it - little I suspect. It's too easy to shout when drunk and/or emotional from the poor performance, and management to shout back when annoyed at the performance, but what happens the next day or next training session? That is more important. Nothing at all seems to be the norm.

I went to the Welling v Dartford game on Boxing Day. My first game of the season. We were dreadful. Dartford were not much better, but they showed character and heart that our boys, in the main, did not. That is a consistent issue I am told and read. I assume this is partly as a result of a manager motivating them and setting certain standards on and off the field - something we are clearly lacking before, during and no doubt after our esteemed leaders Christmas jolly-up. Vint would head a brick if you threw it up in the air and told him to do so. Romain would run all day until he could run no more. Our blokes seem to go through the motions, like its all too much effort for them, like they needn't worry about their place or don't care about it, there is a comfort zone, and inherent over familiarity with some and the manager having played together for too long, picking up too much dough, and frankly taking the pi55 and not caring one jot about "their club" or the result, as long as the reddies are there to be handed out at full-time (and don't tell the taxman).

There in itself is the importance of a manager. Failing to understand that, as the businessman we are told Goldberg is, is criminal. I dare say whoever he has heading his other businesses is capable of the role, or would be disposed of. I certainly wouldn't want to go for, say, open heart surgery, to know the guy doing it, were a novice. I'd want the top man for the job, paid the big bucks, and getting the best of those working underneath him.

Let's be honest, we're Welling United fans, and as a result losing is something we are not afraid of. I have seen enough awful performances, poor results, lower league table positions, etc over the years. What I have not seen is a team, and a club as a whole, completely lacking in any kind of organisation, spirit and heart.

I remember a West Ham side full of young English talent being branded as too good to go down - and they went down. We are not for one moment any good, but we should be better than we are, and on a points per £££ budget spreadsheet we'd be bottom by some distance. I bet a side like Tonbridge Angels, without a pot to pi55 in, have eleven men that might be useless, but will battle and battle until they are bloodied and bruised in the hope of a point or three, and I bet there is a competent manager squeezing every last bit out of that useless player and getting maximum value, whereas ours coast.

We are in the sh1t, and I have little to no confidence in anyone trying to, or able to, get us out of it. The players do not care. The manager does not care. As evidenced by performances, arguing, being on holiday, training once a week, not facing up to their failings and running straight down the tunnel ... for f**k sake, even people on here have made comments about the warm-ups being pi55 poor over a month ago and people laughing and joking and being casual in their pre-game prep.

It is not good enough.

And any sinking ship, any failing side, it is usually the manager that takes the blame. And rightly. So let's give him a little going over shall we, because people were very quick to do so to Jody Brown, Neil Smith, and Faz towards the end, etc ...

Mr Goldberg sir, you have brought false hope and false promises to your "customers" who were it any business other than football, would be offski. You are failing both on and off the pitch, and what's worse, is you know it and are told it continuously, and do nothing. Even if you were not told relentlessly, you have eyes and ears, so you are either ignorant to it, stupid, selfish, or don't care. I suspect with the money going in, you care, so you are either ignorant or stupid or selfish. Or all. That said that you care, care about what? I'll come to that in a moment.

Last time you were in the PVR dugout it was dire. It is again. It is also dire off the field, like it was at Bromley and Palace. I use customers above in inverted commas as it would appear you are interested in little more than cashing in somewhere along the line on the club be via housing/planning permission on the current site or elsewhere, in the event the Council are daft enough to offer a failing club with crowds of less than 450 a brand new multi-million pound stadium, which its taken Cray Wanderers about a generation to get. If you're crap at serving Indian food, people vote with their feet and go to one of many other equivalent businesses in the local area, but it doesn't happen with football, people stick with their side, you're lucky in that respect. But what some predicted from the outset, others are now starting to realise 3-4 years down the line.

Were your customers your main care, I would question why you refused to give one of only two recent good managers a contract, in Mr Day, who then left, and then refused to come to agreeable terms with Mr King, who you sacked, only to be replaced on both occasions by immediate collapse of all they had previously built. If you cared about the club doing well on the field, neither of those men would have left. They would have had to have been dragged from your grasp with you kicking and screaming for what they had achieved, but you didn't even put up a fight, and painted a picture allowing you to step in and try to save the day.

On the field is a farce. You can't sort it. Stand down. NOW. Not tomorrow. Not after another defeat. Not "maybe I can turn it around". You have failed, stand down. NOW.

And off it even worse. You have had 3-4 years to deliver on some of the promises off the field - none have materialised. Not one. The bar seems to be run internally, then externally, then internally again, backwards and forwards depending on which way the wind is blowing, and whichever it is, it always sells out of beer and always has a queue at the key times that matter, like half-time where you have a limited window to cash in otherwise you miss out. Erith and Belvedere must be laughing all the way to the bank, they brought in over 2k in bar takings on Boxing Day, and they weren't even playing. As I spoke to John McFadden about the SCEFL season to date and our game in the New Year, his recent poor health was eased by the constant "ding, ding, ding" of the cash register at £4 a pint with a queue of punters as far as the eye could see. Lucky man.

The ground is falling to pieces, and the only "re-development" I've seen since last visiting is via a post on this very forum searching for volunteers to come and paint some fences and similar during the close season. I've seen some nice technical drawings over the last 12-18 months, but they may as well be written in crayon as there isn't a hope in hell of any of them coming off, and with it taking so long to submit an application, and/or applications, locations, plans, constantly changing there is either a problem this end or the Council end, and it seems to me its a "throw enough muck at the wall and some of it might stick" approach.

Then there is the enjoyment a fan can expect on a rare trip to PVR. 15 minutes in the rain on the pavement trying to get in as the turnstile operators (no fault of theirs) are made to use pen and paper to tally up the attendance as each gullible unknowing hands over his £13 to get in. People are trying to give you money, don't keep them waiting for f**ks sake.

And the sneaky suspicious of a rat, a dirty, smelly, up to something no good rat, who has registered a new business in the name of the football club towards the end of November 2019, with a 100% shareholder in the name of Goldberg.

In it for the love of the club like us, or in it to make a few quid from a property deal? Let me think.

Get out, NOW.

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In the late 90s and early 00s I went 12 years without missing a home game, as well as visiting almost every away game most seasons, and I'd consider myself a long-term loyal fan even if in recent years I haven't been around very much due to work commitments and my own football clubs growth. I'd like to think I have reasonable place to comment, being both a fan, through good times and bad, and also being on the other side of the fence now running a club myself.

Let's clarify this "supporter" comment on recent threads during December, and in the past when things have been paid, where it seems to me that if you say anything negative you are shot down in flames. Being a supporter means supporting your side through good times and bad yes. Promotion, league wins, relegation, everything. Cheering them on whatever. What being a supporter does not mean is relentlessly saying everything is rosy when it is not. It is wanting the best for your club. It is being willing to support the club always, without exception, but also having the desire and decency to speak out, constructively, when something is not right. If there is a problem, speak about it, make a plan, and for God's sake do something about it, do not bury your head in the sand and think cheering the lads on on its own will save the day. It will not. Glossing over problems or pretending they do not exist is incredibly naive, and just because it is football, and not your work place, or your relationship, or your health, does not change that. All is not well, and something must be done about it. If you were not doing what you said you would, or were supposed to, and failing in performance, at work, you would be dealt with. Same with letting the missus down constantly, you'd be dragged over the coals. Same with ignoring your health, you'd get ill, or die. So being a supporter of Welling for me is wanting the best for it, and we're not getting it and I've had enough, and I don't even go, so f**k knows how some of your regulars must feel.

I wasn't at the game yesterday so I cannot pass comment on that specific "performance", although I can safely assume that not everyone writing above and on Twitter can be wrong, and that it was not good enough. It's an embarrassment to see players (who don't even proper members of our club and are on loan) and stand in management/coaches, arguing in the goalmouth at full-time with supporters. There is a time and place, and neither party are doing themselves any favours there. That said, in the cold light of day, what will come of it - little I suspect. It's too easy to shout when drunk and/or emotional from the poor performance, and management to shout back when annoyed at the performance, but what happens the next day or next training session? That is more important. Nothing at all seems to be the norm.

I went to the Welling v Dartford game on Boxing Day. My first game of the season. We were dreadful. Dartford were not much better, but they showed character and heart that our boys, in the main, did not. That is a consistent issue I am told and read. I assume this is partly as a result of a manager motivating them and setting certain standards on and off the field - something we are clearly lacking before, during and no doubt after our esteemed leaders Christmas jolly-up. Vint would head a brick if you threw it up in the air and told him to do so. Romain would run all day until he could run no more. Our blokes seem to go through the motions, like its all too much effort for them, like they needn't worry about their place or don't care about it, there is a comfort zone, and inherent over familiarity with some and the manager having played together for too long, picking up too much dough, and frankly taking the pi55 and not caring one jot about "their club" or the result, as long as the reddies are there to be handed out at full-time (and don't tell the taxman).

There in itself is the importance of a manager. Failing to understand that, as the businessman we are told Goldberg is, is criminal. I dare say whoever he has heading his other businesses is capable of the role, or would be disposed of. I certainly wouldn't want to go for, say, open heart surgery, to know the guy doing it, were a novice. I'd want the top man for the job, paid the big bucks, and getting the best of those working underneath him.

Let's be honest, we're Welling United fans, and as a result losing is something we are not afraid of. I have seen enough awful performances, poor results, lower league table positions, etc over the years. What I have not seen is a team, and a club as a whole, completely lacking in any kind of organisation, spirit and heart.

I remember a West Ham side full of young English talent being branded as too good to go down - and they went down. We are not for one moment any good, but we should be better than we are, and on a points per £££ budget spreadsheet we'd be bottom by some distance. I bet a side like Tonbridge Angels, without a pot to pi55 in, have eleven men that might be useless, but will battle and battle until they are bloodied and bruised in the hope of a point or three, and I bet there is a competent manager squeezing every last bit out of that useless player and getting maximum value, whereas ours coast.

We are in the sh1t, and I have little to no confidence in anyone trying to, or able to, get us out of it. The players do not care. The manager does not care. As evidenced by performances, arguing, being on holiday, training once a week, not facing up to their failings and running straight down the tunnel ... for f**k sake, even people on here have made comments about the warm-ups being pi55 poor over a month ago and people laughing and joking and being casual in their pre-game prep.

It is not good enough.

And any sinking ship, any failing side, it is usually the manager that takes the blame. And rightly. So let's give him a little going over shall we, because people were very quick to do so to Jody Brown, Neil Smith, and Faz towards the end, etc ...

Mr Goldberg sir, you have brought false hope and false promises to your "customers" who were it any business other than football, would be offski. You are failing both on and off the pitch, and what's worse, is you know it and are told it continuously, and do nothing. Even if you were not told relentlessly, you have eyes and ears, so you are either ignorant to it, stupid, selfish, or don't care. I suspect with the money going in, you care, so you are either ignorant or stupid or selfish. Or all. That said that you care, care about what? I'll come to that in a moment.

Last time you were in the PVR dugout it was dire. It is again. It is also dire off the field, like it was at Bromley and Palace. I use customers above in inverted commas as it would appear you are interested in little more than cashing in somewhere along the line on the club be via housing/planning permission on the current site or elsewhere, in the event the Council are daft enough to offer a failing club with crowds of less than 450 a brand new multi-million pound stadium, which its taken Cray Wanderers about a generation to get. If you're crap at serving Indian food, people vote with their feet and go to one of many other equivalent businesses in the local area, but it doesn't happen with football, people stick with their side, you're lucky in that respect. But what some predicted from the outset, others are now starting to realise 3-4 years down the line.

Were your customers your main care, I would question why you refused to give one of only two recent good managers a contract, in Mr Day, who then left, and then refused to come to agreeable terms with Mr King, who you sacked, only to be replaced on both occasions by immediate collapse of all they had previously built. If you cared about the club doing well on the field, neither of those men would have left. They would have had to have been dragged from your grasp with you kicking and screaming for what they had achieved, but you didn't even put up a fight, and painted a picture allowing you to step in and try to save the day.

On the field is a farce. You can't sort it. Stand down. NOW. Not tomorrow. Not after another defeat. Not "maybe I can turn it around". You have failed, stand down. NOW.

And off it even worse. You have had 3-4 years to deliver on some of the promises off the field - none have materialised. Not one. The bar seems to be run internally, then externally, then internally again, backwards and forwards depending on which way the wind is blowing, and whichever it is, it always sells out of beer and always has a queue at the key times that matter, like half-time where you have a limited window to cash in otherwise you miss out. Erith and Belvedere must be laughing all the way to the bank, they brought in over 2k in bar takings on Boxing Day, and they weren't even playing. As I spoke to John McFadden about the SCEFL season to date and our game in the New Year, his recent poor health was eased by the constant "ding, ding, ding" of the cash register at £4 a pint with a queue of punters as far as the eye could see. Lucky man.

The ground is falling to pieces, and the only "re-development" I've seen since last visiting is via a post on this very forum searching for volunteers to come and paint some fences and similar during the close season. I've seen some nice technical drawings over the last 12-18 months, but they may as well be written in crayon as there isn't a hope in hell of any of them coming off, and with it taking so long to submit an application, and/or applications, locations, plans, constantly changing there is either a problem this end or the Council end, and it seems to me its a "throw enough muck at the wall and some of it might stick" approach.

Then there is the enjoyment a fan can expect on a rare trip to PVR. 15 minutes in the rain on the pavement trying to get in as the turnstile operators (no fault of theirs) are made to use pen and paper to tally up the attendance as each gullible unknowing hands over his £13 to get in. People are trying to give you money, don't keep them waiting for f**ks sake.

And the sneaky suspicious of a rat, a dirty, smelly, up to something no good rat, who has registered a new business in the name of the football club towards the end of November 2019, with a 100% shareholder in the name of Goldberg.

In it for the love of the club like us, or in it to make a few quid from a property deal? Let me think.

Get out, NOW.

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 Hats off mate, 100% behind every word you said

You take issue with whatever you like Ron.

Its my opinion of the man, if you find him to be otherwise then thats down to you.

Other supporters at PVR will tell you that I have in fact chosen my words carefully for once

In my opinion he is a liar, he is a user, he is exploitative, egotistical, dishonest, incompetent, and indeed......odious.

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You take issue with whatever you like Ron.

Its my opinion of the man, if you find him to be otherwise then thats down to you.

Other supporters at PVR will tell you that I have in fact chosen my words carefully for once.

In my opinion he is a liar, he is a user, he is exploitative, egotistical, dishonest, incompetent, and indeed......odious.

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 OK, if other supporters would like to come forward then I am corrected.

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You dont need to be corrected, you have your opinion of him and are entitled to it.

I was not responding to correct you, I was responding because I dont need to be pulled up on my choice of words or my opinion either.

 

People will be calling him a damn sight worse than odious at the end of the season if he gets us relegated.......anyway at least hes had a nice holiday over Xmas now and should come back fully recharged and ready to turn things around!!!

 

 

 

 

-- Edited by Polo on Sunday 29th of December 2019 05:51:34 PM

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Jamo wrote:

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You take issue with whatever you like Ron.

Its my opinion of the man, if you find him to be otherwise then thats down to you.

Other supporters at PVR will tell you that I have in fact chosen my words carefully for once.
I know people that have undertaken work for him/the club that were never paid for their work and were then treated dreadfully so in my opinion that is the behaviour of an odious man.

In my opinion he is a liar, he is a user, he is exploitative, egotistical, dishonest, incompetent, and indeed......odious.

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 OK, if other supporters would like to come forward then I am corrected.

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You dont need to be corrected, you have your opinion of him and are entitled to it.

I was not responding to correct you, I was responding because I dont need to be pulled up on my choice of words or my opinion either.

 

People will be calling him a damn sight worse than odious at the end of the season if he gets us relegated.......anyway at least hes had a nice holiday over Xmas now and should come back fully recharged and ready to turn things around!!!

 

 

 

 

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 He's not back until after new year , unless he's taken some advice for once and jumped on the first plane home...

Im looking forward to the next meet the manager evening

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Im looking forward to the next meet the manager evening

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 Its tonight in Crystals Palace Playa de las Americas, Doors open 7:00pm free sangria and a photograph in a wanted poster for all fans turning up.

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What is the solution to make feelings clear? There is discontent behind the goal but not enough voices make it known

If he does decide to leave. Realistically does anyone know what the takeover value would be?

Ultimately the whole one day training. Swaine my captain. Coombes will play a danny mills role, dymond plays whatever, ill turn it around, its okay hugo sits in the stand now, i won the league with bromley once stuff has run its course.

The whole thing is a conveinent arragement for him and the players. Ming leaving to play for King, wanting to train properly, wanting to be in a shout of achieving sums it up.

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 All the time the development hasn't happened thats not going to happen. IF or when it happens then i'd expect the club to be sold or left for people to pick up the pieces. If Tamplin did make an offer and you cannot doubt he has money as he transformed Billericays ground and had a wage bill of 30k a week, why would you turn down an offer thats far more than you have to pay for the same product? Unless there is a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.

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 Agreed.  As said earlier the actual business sense in running the club to make some money now is severely lacking.

I hope the kentish bell man does a good job in the commercial role.   Certainly has a presence with his own business

Jimmy wrote:

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 Really don't think they'll be anymore. He won't put himself in that position.  The last one looking back was a forum for him to manipulate - king didn't care,  king can stay but probably won't, youth players should have filled the bench.  

On a positive note i have two coaches lined up and here is a picture of a stadium I'll never get permission to build

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and that there is another problem. Three options ... face up to problem head on and have a manager's meeting and have some bollocks to do so without pre-arranged submitted questions, step down and get in a new manager not that anyone would want it, or continue as usual. He'll do the latter. He said on camera 4-6 weeks ago if things didn't improve he'd stand down, and they haven't, and he hasn't. Why not? Lies. 

on top of this, sadly, some fans have been a little too trusting. For too long. Comments like "until his proposed development of the club has been provided false, I'll continue to back his ideas in that department" are all well and good, but mean nothing. It's been 3-4 years. Nothing. Until it's proven false, I'll believe it. For how long? Until 2025? Well it's never been proven that the moon isn't made of cheese so I'll believe that as well.

Welling Town wrote:

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 Really don't think they'll be anymore. He won't put himself in that position.  The last one looking back was a forum for him to manipulate - king didn't care,  king can stay but probably won't, youth players should have filled the bench.  

On a positive note i have two coaches lined up and here is a picture of a stadium I'll never get permission to build

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and that there is another problem. Three options ... face up to problem head on and have a manager's meeting and have some bollocks to do so without pre-arranged submitted questions, step down and get in a new manager not that anyone would want it, or continue as usual. He'll do the latter. He said on camera 4-6 weeks ago if things didn't improve he'd stand down, and they haven't, and he hasn't. Why not? Lies. 

on top of this, sadly, some fans have been a little too trusting. For too long. Comments like "until his proposed development of the club has been provided false, I'll continue to back his ideas in that department" are all well and good, but mean nothing. It's been 3-4 years. Nothing. Until it's proven false, I'll believe it. For how long? Until 2025? Well it's never been proven that the moon isn't made of cheese so I'll believe that as well.

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-- Edited by Wingman1963 on Sunday 29th of December 2019 08:15:28 PM

Maybe have the Dartford centre halves ask Bradley New Years Day, if he gets off the bench.

Not for a good reason that's for sure.

My guess would be to secure a lease on the ground, and keep the playing side and non playing side separate.....for whatever reason that may be.....

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My guess would be to secure a lease on the ground, and keep the playing side and non playing side separate.....for whatever reason that may be.....

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That sounds very dodgy. For the exact reason that the CIC was set up, so by the sounds of it: "keep the playing side and non playing side separate" MG wants to circumvent the CIC by setting up a Holding Company that will then licence assets back to the CIC. E.g. The ground.

Anyone old enough will remember how owners basically sold off the grounds, via Holding companies, in the 1980s. Happened to the likes of Chelsea, Wimbledon, Charlton (?) and Fulham

 THIS IS SMELL THE COFFEE TIME

-- Edited by Wingman1963 on Sunday 29th of December 2019 08:59:44 PM

Its all speculation, probably best to wait for a statement or maybe WUSA will arrange a meeting (open) for on and off field discussion in January.

Matt The Hat wrote:

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Good afternoon all,

I have all the facts to hand and completely understand why Welling United Ltd has been set up.

The reasons behind this will be shared in January, ultimately it is to help with the sustainability and future of the club, not an asset stripping exercise that has been said earlier.

I represent WUSA and the best interests of our supporters on the Welling United CIC board and have had questions answered today that raised my concerns with the new company and understand why this would be done.

As I said more information will be shared shortly with the reasons behind why this has been set up.

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 With all due respect to you Matt, it seems what MG tells you and what is 100% true are sometimes a little different.

You would tell us at no fault of your own that the wage budget is significantly lower than last year when it certainly is not, especially when we are paying players still who are now enjoying life at top of the league. 

As for the company, yes could be completely innocent, only thing it can be for is the lease of ground, but why not tell anyone about it? It seems that you only found out yesterday and you are on the board, a bit like remortgaging your house and not telling the wife why until she finds out herself. 

Anyway, thankyou for raising your concerns and finding out.

So, even though you knew pre mark going away about it and you had things you wanted answers to you didn't get them when you found out, you got them when he's on holiday & straight after it's been posted on a public forum that he reads.
Matt this ain't a pop at you or your fault, you've been put in a **** position no doubt but if this was the other way around you would see how crap what you said sounds and that you have been 'asked' to say it.
I wont speak of it no more, end of the day it's good that you did have concerns in the first place and will wait to see what happens on the matter, I do trust that you yourself have the club and fans best interests and will speak out and act if fully need too.
As for the budget, yes exactly "only what's presented to you" that's why i say no fault of your own. it could well be lower, but its by no more than £700/£1000, the way it gets portrayed is like it's a lot lot more.

-- Edited by Jamison on Monday 30th of December 2019 03:08:41 PM